Chalice - MarkBugs Bottom Feeder Atomiser - Official thread

[super_X_drifter]

that's 28ga, 1/16" id, .7 ohms. not sure how the legs coming for the top of the coil might add throat hit? all I can go from here is up, might try raising it just to see, since the coil is so far from the air inlet I guess it's not impossible raising it might help, it's too far from the air hole to hurt it I think because even raised it's not going to get more airflow below the coil really , I'll try it

I was thinking that the high legs may produce unchecked heat - you know, no juice to cool em and in the air path. Dunno just a thought.

Truth is whenever I rolled up a top leg coil it just felt odd installing it cause the holes were lower than the legs . Prolly just a personal preference thing

 

[super_X_drifter]

One other tip - make sure the wick on the air side is small / not too spread out cause air across the larger juiced surface of the wick will also add to TH. It's hard to tell from your pic which side of the wick your airhole lines up next to. If it's the small side, disregard this

 

[turbocad6]

here is a side shot, this shot is from the exact angle of airflow, the airhole sits right in the center from this perspective, wicking is minimal. guess slightly shorter legs will turn the coil slightly counter clockwise and expose the airflow a little more to the side of the coil instead of now being a little closer to the end of the coil, the ends of a coil do add a little TH too so that might help a little too. I'll def play with the Z coil and try different things

 

[super_X_drifter]

Here's mine from the airholes viewpoint

 

[ZeroOhms]

here is a side shot, this shot is from the exact angle of airflow, the airhole sits right in the center from this perspective, wicking is minimal. guess slightly shorter legs will turn the coil slightly counter clockwise and expose the airflow a little more to the side of the coil instead of now being a little closer to the end of the coil, the ends of a coil do add a little TH too so that might help a little too. I'll def play with the Z coil and try different things

Oh come on! Looks like a perfect coil build to me.
Maybe the atty just hits harder?

 

[turbocad6]

it's not bad at all, it vapes fine, just a little bit more throat hit. honestly it has to have more throat hit in this z configuration because of the way the airflow is. I'm not talking a night and day difference here though, I'm talking slightly more th, detectable but not a huge difference, some may not even notice it much or even at all depending on the juice and the nic level, I'm at a pretty low nic level and vape with very little flavor in the mix so I can pick it up more because I'm used to almost no throat hit.

throat hit is not about hitting harder it's a certain harshness that you feel, many like it because it feels more like smoking

 

[super_X_drifter]

Filthy- Beast, look forward to reading about your thoughts on your chalice(s) and seeing pix of your builds too bro

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Filthy- Beast, look forward to reading about your thoughts on your chalice(s) and seeing pix of your builds too bro

Been a crazy week but I did take some time to snap some photos. I build these as soon as they arrived on Monday using 29 gauge kanthal and 2mm ceramic wick. One is at 6 wraps .97 ohms the other is at 7 wraps 1.17 ohms. I was playing with higher ohm coils before these arrived so all my other Reos are running 1.2 to 1.4 ohm coils. I wanted more kick so built these to lower ohm so I cannot really comment on TH until I built the same coil on one of the others.

These drain so well it's amazing. The quality is through the roof. I like the screws and the way they bite into the coil. Flavor with unflavored nic is great. I ran out of my ADV but have some Ikenvape RY4 gold on order.

Bottom line I will buy more when available.

Here they are;

Dirty coil & wick

Same coil and wick after a dry burn

 

[Akdare]

So YOU'RE the one that got that gorgeous burl Woodvil! It's a stunner...

 

[Filthy-Beast]

So YOU'RE the one that got that gorgeous burl Woodvil! It's a stunner...

Thanks! Yeap, Mystery Burl #18, not sure what kind of wood though.

 

[Akdare]

Thanks! Yeap, Mystery Burl #18, not sure what kind of wood though.

I'm pretty sure it's maple.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

I'm pretty sure it's maple.

that was my guess but Karen though it was some other wood.

 

[ZeroOhms]

Chalice coil build #2! 28g 9/10 @ 1/16" didn't bother checking the ohms but should be somewhere around 1ohms.
It was much easier and actually manageable. Few things that helped.

- Cut the second leg very short (1/2" longer than post). This makes threading of second leg much easier.
- Don't put the screw on the first leg until second leg is done. Just thread the wire through the hole and keep it freely moving to aid the threading of second leg.
- I tried doing "bottom" leg build. This is very similar to my Kayfun coils. Turns out, it actually fits better and looks much more natural.

Some pics
Top view

Side loop view of bottom leg build

I guess "air hole view" is in. so here is the air hole view after wicking and juicing.

 

[turbocad6]

I did the same wrap in mine, the short, almost no legs compared to other atties makes it less that it would be on other atties, that will wind up more like a .7 .8 in here. that's one benefit of the post design, squeeze an extra wrap or 2 in staying in the same ohm compared to other atties. in another atty you'd have to do ~8 wraps instead of 10, loosing the 2 last wraps to the legs.

reminds me a lot of the kayfun mounting position but on the kayfun it's air coming in from the hole right below the coil instead of juice


I moved my coil up really high, higher that yours and sup x's and it was more th, much more, I then moved it down to ~ midway which looks to be around where you guys have it and it's still more TH than where I had it low as it can go so I put it back down low.


I know what the coil wants, it wants to move it's way over to the airhole is what it wants

 

[massimofrat]

ha, it's really not that I thought I couldn't do it or that it was too hard , I tried at first with 26ga and I got it in there but I broke it at the post wrestling it into place trying to get equal length legs, and then didn't bother doing it again. my main apprehension has nothing to do with difficulty of mounting it, it's more about having the coil further from the air inlet which will raise throat hit. I'm not a big fan of throat hit, I like smooth and mild and flavorful but no throat hit much really. I've built and played with so many different coils and coil positions and different chamber sizes that I'm at the point that I know what I like and what I don't which is why I just fell back on the side mounted one last night but I'm more than willing to at least try the z

ok I did a z in my other one, vaping both ~ the same power level and same juice and as I suspected the z coil does give a bit more throat hit, honestly not as much as I was afraid of, but def more than a coil right at the air inlet. the one with the coil at the air inlet is a very sweet smooth vape, the z coiled one is slightly less sweet and smooth and slightly more peppery and harsh. not bad at all really, if you like throat hit then it's great. I'm going to live with it for a little while and see

Very interesting considerations...
what have you used for your coil: wick or cotton?
And also what cant of wick or cotton?

I saw many pictures of this new batch of Chalice and I found out few differences from the last:
- the head of the screw (before was crossed);
- the air hole is bigger;
- the satin finishing is darker respesct the old batch!!
Am I right? I really liked the old satin finishing and I'm sorry only fir this last difference

Tapatalkato

 

[Big Hitter]

Very interesting considerations...
what have you used for your coil: wick or cotton?
And also what cant of wick or cotton?

I saw nany pictures of this new batch of Chalice and I found off few differences from the last:
- the head of the screw;
- the air hole is bigger;
- the satin finishing is darker respesct the old!!
Am I right? I really liked the old satin finishing and I'm sorry only fir this last difference

Tapatalkato

Maybe Mark will pop in and tell us for sure .... but I think time will change the finish. The color looks the same its just my older ones are worn smoother .... they look exactly the same shade of grey.

 

[mark78]

We did not not made any changes for this run, only the air hole for some is bigger now.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Some of the pictures you are seeing have the stock air hole drilled out larger.

 

[swamijivan]

Hi Mark,
I missed last Chalice call.. when you suppose to have another batch on sell?

 

[Big Hitter]

Hi Mark,
I missed last Chalice call.. when you suppose to have another batch on sell?

Well this last sale was 15 months from the previous sale ....... I've waited for every sale (Total of 3) since they came out a couple years ago ........

All I would say is don't give up on getting one. Its the finest bottom feeding rebuildable atomizer there will ever be ..... Period.

Good luck.