Chalice - MarkBugs Bottom Feeder Atomiser - Official thread

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Cliven

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Great write up, thanks for taking the time. Nice read while I'm drumming my fingers waiting for the brown truck, mine also went through KY on it's way to Chicago.

I hope you get it soon.

I was watching my tracking yesterday and it went from Philly to salt Lake last night. Just knowing it was in town was driving me nuts.....Now its worse knowing its home waiting for me. <perhaps-I'm-running-a-fever-I-need-to-go-home-early> ;)
 

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I hope you get it soon.

I was watching my tracking yesterday and it went from Philly to salt Lake last night. Just knowing it was in town was driving me nuts.....Now its worse knowing its home waiting for me. <perhaps-I'm-running-a-fever-I-need-to-go-home-early> ;)

You do look a little pale.
 

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Okay - new personal record for setting up a coil after getting an atty in my hot little hands. I'd twisted one up this morning in anticipation, was going to boil/clean the atty before using it, but I just couldn't wait for a first vape.

So, first impressions......

* Very, very well made atty. Threads are butter smooth, pieces all fit snug, posts even feel quality (they're wrap-around style, not drilled, and are actually posts with threads and caps that screw on them), nice big fill/drain hole right in the middle of the deck.

* Posts are offset (like the RM2), so builds are pretty straight forward (and 'standard' orientation, as opposed to 'Z' coils). Some who insist on duals or really fat wire (or MM) might struggle a bit - its a small build platform and the post caps don't look like they'd handle more than a single coil of up to, say, 26 gauge (small heads). Parallel coils of 30 gauge should work fine.

* The chamber is itty bitty - smaller on the inside than it looks on the outside. It's really only open up to a level even with the top of the "h" on the "Chalice III" engraving.

* It seats on my Reo grands with no problem and leaves a slight gap between it and the 510 connector, so care should be taken not to overtighten it and risk squishing the 510 pin gasket. This might just be an aspect of my grands' connectors, but I see this on several units I have.

*The afc takes a little getting used to. The afc collar is a little hard to line up with the chamber air holes to your desired setting. Slick design, but there are no markings (that I could see) on the chamber piece to know where the holes are in that piece in order to line up the orientation. I found a way to get the result I wanted by holding the afc collar in place and screwing the cap it's attached to in around it (that won't make sense to many of you - it will once you have the unit in hand. Basically, hold the afc collar where you want it while you screw the top piece in).

* The vape is absolutely incredible. For flavour junkies, this will make you weep the tears of the enlightened. That small chamber (IMHO) is the key. I have the afc wide open and, with a .8 ohm 1/16" 28 gauge micro, it has no problem keeping up to the draw. It doesn't throw the biggest vapor, but then that's not what this little beauty is for. It's a smooth, rich, tasty vape machine. I've got JPN cotton in it right now, no doubt FB will give us his RxW impressions.

In all - stellar atty! I don't feel it's over-hyped. Lack of abundant availability often colours our perception of things - the so-called 'unicorn' effect. This, however, would be ranked very highly and loved by all even if they were a dime a dozen.

Mark, I tip my cap to you, sir. :toast: Bloody good vape, this.


Thanks for the info! Sounds like us small atty lovers will really love this one! Do you happen to have the Chalice ll to compare? Side coil versus Z in flavor/vapor? And is the juice hole still in the middle or offset?
 

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Yes the drain hole is dead center. I've built my same style ugly spaced coil with RxW. I like it a lot. The AFC give me the ability to match what I had plus and I can get more airflow than my Chalice IIs with air hole drilled to 1/16.

Other benefits I didn't notice or think about. With the way the air flows I don't have to worry about how the air holes align on the Reo. I also wont get any leaking from the air holes.

I love it!
 

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Thanks for the info! Sounds like us small atty lovers will really love this one! Do you happen to have the Chalice ll to compare? Side coil versus Z in flavor/vapor? And is the juice hole still in the middle or offset?

Yes, if you're a M2L hitter or a light direct lung'er and after biiiiiig flavour, this is your huckleberry.

FB has both the II and the III, I (unfortunately) do not.
 

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Yes, if you're a M2L hitter or a light direct lung'er and after biiiiiig flavour, this is your huckleberry.

FB has both the II and the III, I (unfortunately) do not.

Well at least you have one or one coming. I haven't heard back from my potential one yet :( So as of now, I still have zippo.
 

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Woot.

Built quickly, and poorly - but that's me, I suck at coils. I'll have to do-over later, and get a better one running...
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Here's a few things that I noticed that I wasn't sure of or you might be surprised by:

- no "post holes" - it's wrap-around...
- I can't imagine doing a dual coil in there - it's laid out for 1, and it's tiny... - I find the AFC TOTALLY intuitive and easy-to-use. You just turn the ring while sucking on it, til you get what you want.
- I find the AFC to be THE most functional AFC I've used yet - you CAN "fine tune" the airflow from super-tight to pretty open. Not great big giant holes cloud-chaser open, but enough for me. And it's a snug ring that stays where you set it.
- The way the air gets in the top and goes down through 3 internal holes means a few things:
- - - You do NOT have to "aim" your airholes on your REO. There's three of them, so you can't anyway...
- - - The hole's are WAY up high, so you really can't squonk liquid out the airhole
- Like I said - my build sucks, but it's producing MORE VAPOR than all my other small atties already. Maybe because I can open the air just a TINY bit more, or maybe because of the WAY the air's coming in - I'd imagine there's a weird little cyclone inside - the way the air has to go in, through the little AFC "scoops," down to the coil, then up...


So I'll definitely have to get used to building for it - but it's going to be GREAT.
I'll do a single coil around .8 or .9, and want to try it wicked like usual with a tiny bit of cotton.
Right now I'm "in between" - more wick than usual, but not quite as much as MB's photos had.
 

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Woot.

Built quickly, and poorly - but that's me, I suck at coils. I'll have to do-over later, and get a better one running...
Chalice3-a_zps7c84531c.jpg


Here's a few things that I noticed that I wasn't sure of or you might be surprised by:

- no "post holes" - it's wrap-around...
- I can't imagine doing a dual coil in there - it's laid out for 1, and it's tiny... - I find the AFC TOTALLY intuitive and easy-to-use. You just turn the ring while sucking on it, til you get what you want.
- I find the AFC to be THE most functional AFC I've used yet - you CAN "fine tune" the airflow from super-tight to pretty open. Not great big giant holes cloud-chaser open, but enough for me. And it's a snug ring that stays where you set it.
- The way the air gets in the top and goes down through 3 internal holes means a few things:
- - - You do NOT have to "aim" your airholes on your REO. There's three of them, so you can't anyway...
- - - The hole's are WAY up high, so you really can't squonk liquid out the airhole
- Like I said - my build sucks, but it's producing MORE VAPOR than all my other small atties already. Maybe because I can open the air just a TINY bit more, or maybe because of the WAY the air's coming in - I'd imagine there's a weird little cyclone inside - the way the air has to go in, through the little AFC "scoops," down to the coil, then up...


So I'll definitely have to get used to building for it - but it's going to be GREAT.
I'll do a single coil around .8 or .9, and want to try it wicked like usual with a tiny bit of cotton.
Right now I'm "in between" - more wick than usual, but not quite as much as MB's photos had.
Study the inside of the cap, the air does not come straight down from those three hole there is an internal chamber in the cap that routes the air to a single hole right in front of the coil, spec say its 2mm hole. Amazing engineering and execution of the design.
 

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I find the AFC TOTALLY intuitive and easy-to-use. You just turn the ring while sucking on it, til you get what you want.

:facepalm: I'm an idiot. My afc ring was really tight and I thought it didn't turn once the cap was screwed in place. I pulled my initial build apart and cleaned the atty, and now the afc ring rotates when the whole thing is assembled - easy, peasy.

Thanks for mentioning this, and you're right - it's sooo easy to use. My grade for it just went from A+ to A++.
 

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Mark, I worship you! This thing is freaking amazing! I want more!
I love the way the coil mounts. I am always worried about pinching the wire off when I tighten the screws but with this puppy.....no more!
To reiterate Filthy...if anyone wants to get rid of their Chalice III....I will take it....behind Filthy of course.:)
And since nobody has posted it yet, here is my quick build. I felt like a kid on Christmas morning. I was so excited.

i can't believe how tiny this thing is.

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Study the inside of the cap, the air does not come straight down from those three hole there is an internal chamber in the cap that routes the air to a single hole right in front of the coil, spec say its 2mm hole. Amazing engineering and execution of the design.

Ahhh - I get it now.
Yep - 3 airholes merging into one aimed at the coil. So I guess, if that hole is "downhill" you might get a little gurgle...
Still pretty foolproof, airhole-wise!
 
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