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Kanj.nguyen

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Hello all,

Total newbie here. I made the switch to vaping after near 6 years of analogs (since I was 14) and absolutely loving it, so does everyone around me since my clothes dont stink of smoke any more :)

I went through the usual process:

First week, couple of analog style disposables
Second week, bought a 510t kit with pcc and a passthru; added in some LR atties

Third week, the atties get too hot to chain vape, so i bought a vivi nova and a mini, with an ego twist and a VV ego style passthru.

Now im fairly happy with the nova on my ego, but every now and then the flavor is diminished, some heads go bad on me. Right now im vaping gorilla juice on my mini nova but it tastes nothing like i remember from the first time. Both times i steeped it thet same way in an Ultrasonic cleaner for a good amount of time

I rebuilt a couple of the nova heads and it was really satisfying to see the first coil i built working right. I got so excited i just ordered an AGA-T2 and some oxidized ss mesh to build my first Genesis style atomizer

Now here are my questions

Can anyone post a picture of an AGA-T2 sitting on an ego with a type C collar cone? Id really like to see how that looks. Also, how would such a setup perform (given the AGA is set up decently well?)

If an ego wouldnt work well, should i upgrade to a mechanical mod? If so, could anyone reccomend a cheap mech mod that looks good with the agat2? Imstill in college so all my vape budget is from on campus jobs, which is like $50 a week and some of it has to go into juices as well as other college student stuff.

Cheers,

K.
 
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"The Natural" at exhalevapors

48 shipped with coupon code and looks stunning with an aga-t2


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Thanks! Damn that looks good. What battery does it take?

48 is quite steep though. Would it be a substantial upgrade in performance from a standard ego twist?

It's not really an upgrade in performance. A normal battery can only do 3.7v. Your twist can go up to 4.8v. You can get a "Kick" device that can up the wattage on a mod for another $45 - otherwise a mods performance will dwindle with battery power.
 

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Thanks! Damn that looks good. What battery does it take?

48 is quite steep though. Would it be a substantial upgrade in performance from a standard ego twist?

Unless you build it your self from parts at home depot, most mechanicals are in the $150 range.

$48 is SO cheap I've been reluctant to buy the natural for fear of quality issues.

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I realize that, im talking relatively to my own budget :)

If the mech mod isnt a step up in performance, why do people use it? I assume battery life and endurance? I have heard that the twist dies after 4 months or so...

Regular batteries are unregulated, with low ohm attys and a Kick you can push performance to the limit. Others feel they perform well enough on larger (18650) batteries that it's not a big deal. Then once you have the shell, the batteries will be cheaper to replace in the long run.
 

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Hi Kanj,
The Aga-T2 could work with an ego twist - but... the Aga-T2 is much wider and its heavy by comparison. It's really designed to sit on a mod.
People use mechanical mods with RBAs because they make low ohm coils that are below the cut off point for regulated pvs - like 1.0 or 0.8 ohms. Of course you can make coils with higher resistance - I'm using an AGA-T+ at 2.6 ohms right now. Mechanical mods don't have electrics that can go wrong. On the con side - your voltage output is the battery voltage so will drop as the battery voltage drops. You also need to keep an eye on the battery as the mod can't tell you when the battery is low and needs to be replaced. Batteries shouldn't be over-discharged. People get used to mechanical mods and usually can tell when voltage has dropped and know how long to vape before changing the battery.

If you build your coils above 1.3 ohms then a vv/vw mod like the Vamo can be picked up for around $50, or even less. The Aga-T+ sits nicely on the Vamo. It also has an ohms check built in. I use RBAs with a Vamo.

If you don't have a mod with a good ohms check you will need a digital multi-meter, if you don't have one.
If you buy a mod you need good batteries and a good charger, like an Xtar WPII.

You might want to check out this thread for the Aga-T+:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nyone-tried-aga-tiamat-plus-w-glass-tank.html
 
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Thank you guys for all the replies. The amount of info on this site always amazes me.

I will check out the thread. Kiwivap, i see you own both the AGA and the VAMO, could you please post a picture of them set up with each other? Thanks!

Sure, here's a pic - This is the Vamo with an 18350 battery and the AGA-T+:

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Here's a pic of the AGA-T+ with a mechanical mod, the CCST aka Chi-Chi:

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That looks really good actually. I think the VAMO would work fine if i use kanthal ribbon wire, yes?

Is the bottom of your VAMO extended there to take a battery?

Im about the buy a cheap, tiny vv ego passthru for when i use my computer, does anyone have an ego with type C cone and an AGA so i can see what it looks like?
 

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That looks really good actually. I think the VAMO would work fine if i use kanthal ribbon wire, yes?

Is the bottom of your VAMO extended there to take a battery?

Im about the buy a cheap, tiny vv ego passthru for when i use my computer, does anyone have an ego with type C cone and an AGA so i can see what it looks like?

That's the Vamo without the extension. It isn't about what wire you use - whether ribbon or not, but the resistance you make the coil to. That will come down to the wire/ribbon resistance. Check out the thread I linked, and the RBA forum that thread is in.
A lot of people use 32 awg kanthal. I use 34 awg because I want coils around 2.4-2.8 ohms and can do that with 4 wraps or so.
With 32 awg I think you could do 2.0 ohms - but I haven't used 32 awg. The folks over in the RBA forum have discussed the different wire sizes, no. of wraps and resistances.
If you decide you want to go 28 awg kanthal and very low ohms - under 1.3ohms - then the Vamo won't be the mod to use.
 

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I see. I read the people use ribbon for more contact area with the wick.

Im reading the thread right now, and they do have a ton of useful info! Will go through it in a few days while i wait for the aga.

I think if i end up investing in a mod, im going for the VAMO. $50 sounds reasonable enough for a tried and true device. Can you reccomend a vendor with fair price?

Also is your VAMO finish stainless or chrome? It looks so good with the AGA!
 
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To reiterate Kiwi, that AGA is VERY heavy! I mean VERY heavy!
Also, RBA's are not for the faint of heart! There is a HUGE learning curve involved in getting them set up, I'm still fighting with them, but my buddy can come over and wrap a coil like nothing? I just don't want you to think you are doing something wrong if you can't get it working right away! I know I'd have quit vaping if I'd had started out with RBA's and nothing else!
People like the mechanical s because of the simplistic nature of them. Easy to repair, little to go wrong with them and nothing to limit the power from the battery to the coil of the atty.
I've no idea how some of these guys are vaping .8 ohm coils! at 3.7v .8 ohms that's 4.6 amps at 17.11 watts! To me, that's flat cooking juice and all but short circuiting the battery! You wont get much battery life like that either!
Just a little more food for thought.
 
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