Chemicals in TA when burned are they known? Are they be similar to Tobacco?

[jdeedler]

Hey I am seriously considering buying some TA right now because I want a a more real tobacco type flavor.

The Question I have is about whether or not the chemicals from TA when used and burned in vaping is similar to smoking tobacco in anyway?

Tobacco Absolute is the concentrate from the tobacco plant and I notice its black like tar this has me concerned a little.

I realize that it would more than likely be far less than an actual cigarette because of the amount used in e juice, a couple drops for a whole bottle.

Basically plant material vs plant oil and the difference.

Anyhow if anyone has any actual true facts about this please post.

Thanks, Jim

 

[Boletus]

I can't contribute much toward your question, but I will point out that as long as your vaporizer is working correctly, nothing should burn, since combustion requires a much higher temperature that what is required to vaporize PG and/or VG.

 

[jdeedler]

I can't contribute much toward your question, but I will point out that as long as your vaporizer is working correctly, nothing should burn, since combustion requires a much higher temperature that what is required to vaporize PG and/or VG.

technically yeah...I found some things about the differences between the plants and the oils.

Here is an interesting article.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/758218_3

In an independent study, Laugesen tested electronic cigarette mist for over 50 priority-listed cigarette smoke toxicants and found none.[205] This report only revealed traces (8.2 ng/g) of tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs) in the 'high' nicotine cartridge of a Ruyan brand electronic cigarette. However, it must be noted that this amount is equal to the quantity reported to be present in a nicotine medicinal patch.

Likewise, laboratory analyses carried out by the FDA failed to find carcinogens and toxic chemicals in most of the products tested with a single exception: traces (˜1%) of diethylene glycol were detected in the liquid of one of the 18 samples, but this represents a nontoxic quantity.[206] The FDA analyses could not detect any harmful chemical in the vapor. Moreover, an independent analysis of the same electronic cigarette products tested by the FDA found no evidence of carcinogenic TSNAs in their aerosol.[207] Recently, Cahn and Siegel have reviewed the evidence regarding the safety of the liquid in electronic cigarettes.[13] TSNAs were reported in two studies, but at trace levels, which are similar to those found in a nicotine patch, and, most importantly, approximately 500–1400-fold lower than TSNA levels measured in regular cigarettes (electronic cigarettes contain only 0.07–0.2% of the TSNAs present in tobacco cigarettes) (Table 1). This is not surprising.

Electronic cigarettes deliver a nicotine vapor without the combustion products that are responsible for nearly all of smoking's damaging effects. Temperatures of up to 950°C are generated with each puff of a lit cigarette and some 5000 or so chemicals, many of which are toxic or carcinogenic, are generated during the combustion process.[14] By contrast, electronic cigarettes use the process of vaporization rather than combustion and the low operating temperature of the atomizer (˜50–60°C; ˜5–10% of the temperature of a lit cigarette) suggests that electronic cigarettes, as a class, are unlikely to emit cigarette toxicants in their mist.[205]

 

[dannyv45]

I have not seen any reports that indicate tobacco absolute has any more chemicals then regular flavoring and would not consider it anymore harmful then regular flavoring found in most juices with the exception of some of the creams or custard flavorings regarding the DIACETRYL or ACETOIN, ACETYL PROPIONYL compounds. That too has a fraction of what you will find in the common cigarette. It's always prudent to do your own research and stay on top of the latest findings.

 

[Exchaner]

This may be off topic slightly, but I read somewhere that TA gunks up your coils. Is that true you guys?

 

[jdeedler]

This may be off topic slightly, but I read somewhere that TA gunks up your coils. Is that true you guys?

From what I have read you barely use any of this stuff for a 10-15ml bottle of e juice. maybe a drop. So probably not.

There are some other kinds of tobacco extracts that might though like NET's??

 

[JohnnyDill]

My experience with TA in mixes is that it does not gunk any more to notice any difference, compared to other tobacco flavorings..... I dry burn my coils whenever needed so it is not a problem.

 

[LoveVanilla]

On a related note, have you tried or considered Hangsen tobacco flavors? I'm unsure on processes for TA but Hangsen uses molecular distillation and molecular interception to produce their flavors (called essence) from natural tobaccos. Here's an overview. Popular choices include Desert Ship, RY1, Indian, Tab Blend, Arabic, etc.

 

[dannyv45]

This may be off topic slightly, but I read somewhere that TA gunks up your coils. Is that true you guys?

Maybe if you over use it but at the correct concentration and amount no.

 

[dannyv45]

On a related note, have you tried or considered Hangsen tobacco flavors? I'm unsure on processes for TA but Hangsen uses molecular distillation and molecular interception to produce their flavors (called essence) from natural tobaccos. Here's an overview. Popular choices include Desert Ship, RY1, Indian, Tab Blend, Arabic, etc.

Not to sound like a commercial but I'm mainly a tobacco vaper and my main tobaccos are all hangsen.

 

[jdeedler]

Not to sound like a commercial but I'm mainly a tobacco vaper and my main tobaccos are all hangsen.

I am going to have to try some of that looking for a good tobacco flavor thats not candy like.

 

[Exchaner]

I love HS Congress, because of it's herbal taste. It has no candy flavor.

 

[Flt Simulation]

Some of you folks must have had better luck than I had when using TA.

This stuff gunked up my coil something horrible. On top of that, I really did not think TA added much of a worthwhile flavor.

I finally just threw the stuff in the trash.