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StrangeShay

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Love the fresh bread and honey, thanks Lizzie!

Got up to 67 degrees out, at 6AM. It's up near 80 already. This won't last to the weekend though, we may get thunderstorms tonight with the cool front coming through.

Shay, may be a tricycle would be a better idea.

A good friend of mine with a couple of killer bikes has actually offered to take me out to try out a trike that he has access to. I may do it as I loved my bikes, I just wasn't a responsible driver, plus it was 22+ years ago and I hope I may have gained some responsibility and maturity.
 

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My cat, Tom, just got back from the vet's, where he got his spring shots. The vet said he's in perfect health and said it was because I take such good care of him, which is always nice to hear. Tom will be 16 this coming Friday. Personally, I think Tom's genes get more credit than me, since I really don't do anything special. He eats dry kibbles, which are put out for him to nibble on whenever he wants, I give him fresh water every day, and I let him in and out the door at his highness' pleasure. He gets petting and affection when it suits us to snuggle. He gets his shots yearly. He gets dewormed when I see signs of worms. To me, that's basic care, not anything above and beyond. I guess some people neglect their cats, and the vet is used to seeing less than the basic care.

So Tom will be sweet 16. I remember the day he was born on my living room couch. The couch was never the same after that experience. Tom was one of a litter of 6 kittens. His mother belonged to a neighbor, who neglected the cat, Midnight, and she sort of adopted Bill & me rather than her own family. She had started pooping in their closet, so she wasn't allowed inside anymore, and we started letting her in. She never pooped in our place. So one day she was in our apartment and I was sitting working at my desk with my back to the couch, and suddenly, I heard little mews. It was the first kitten, just born, and I crouched and watched with fascination as the others emerged. For a while, since the neighbor hadn't gotten Midnight spayed or her shots, I had been asking if we could adopt Midnight, and the neighbor kept saying no. So after the kittens were born, i put them in a cardboard box with some old rags to cushion the bottom and took them all to the neighbor, who had a sudden change of heart and said the cats were ours if we wanted them. So we adopted 7 cats that day. When the kittens were old enough to be weaned, I advertised free kittens, and people came and took some, but 2 kittens were left, and the adopters seemed to have dried up. We kept the 3 cats (getting Midnight spayed before we had more kittens), and unfortunately, the other kitten came home with an injury so severe, we had to have her put down. The vet thought she had been hit by a car. We had Tom and Midnight for many years, and then Midnight got renal failure, and I had to put her down, so now it's just Tom. Bill & I have said this is our last pet, and when Tom goes, we won't adopt another one, but we said that before, and then Midnight entered our lives, so who knows? Most of the animals I've had have just come knocking on my door, like Midnight did.
 

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My thermometer was reading 95 a little while ago. It may be getting pushed a little high by heat radiating off of the deck, but it is sure hot out. I may have to bring the air conditioner up early :(

Nice story about Midnight and Tom, Sandy.

Thank goodness it's not so hot here! I can't stand it when it gets to 90. I had a suspicion that spring would never happen but we'd plunge right into summer. Still, yesterday was a lovely spring day, and today, it's cooler and rainy. It rained in the morning, and luckily it stopped about the time I planned to take Tom to the vet. Then just a while ago, it poured hard, for just a few minutes. I'm glad I got out and back before that hit! At the moment, it's 48 degrees here. Not bad for a rainy, spring day.
 

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Well, I did bring the air conditioner up and put it in. Dropped the temps inside five degrees in a half an hour, thankfully. It was passing 81 when I decided to do the deed. That cottin pickin thing is heavy! Now, it's cooled off to 78 outside and it looks like we may get some rain. h well, at least it's in ahead of the real hot weather.
 

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If you want nice hair then you won't get involved with tricycles, Shay. Of course, that is presuming you want to look good.

Tom the Cat sounds special. Wormer, kibble, water, sounds like basic care to me.

Wiseguy is going to have his first vet visit with me in a week and a half, by the way. I'm having the vet come toour house since my trailer has a broken spring and besides, I don't want to have to drive and hour and a half to get him checked. The Equine vet comes out this way on Tuesdays anyway. I'm going to have him wormed and find out what kind of wormer I am supposed to use for different kinds of worms and have him generally checked over.

Awsum, hate when it gets too hot too early in the year. We have shutters on the house that we close up to keep the house cooler. That way we can hopefully not run the A/C too much. It also helps the A/C keep up when it is really hot out since we don't get heat gain through the sunny south facing windows.
 

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To commemorate a truly rainy day, here's a picture of a magnolia flower in the rain.

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I don't know why, but today reminded me of this photo, so I thought I'd post it.
 

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If you want nice hair then you won't get involved with tricycles, Shay. Of course, that is presuming you want to look good.

Tom the Cat sounds special. Wormer, kibble, water, sounds like basic care to me.

Wiseguy is going to have his first vet visit with me in a week and a half, by the way. I'm having the vet come toour house since my trailer has a broken spring and besides, I don't want to have to drive and hour and a half to get him checked. The Equine vet comes out this way on Tuesdays anyway. I'm going to have him wormed and find out what kind of wormer I am supposed to use for different kinds of worms and have him generally checked over.

Awsum, hate when it gets too hot too early in the year. We have shutters on the house that we close up to keep the house cooler. That way we can hopefully not run the A/C too much. It also helps the A/C keep up when it is really hot out since we don't get heat gain through the sunny south facing windows.

For a horse, I think it makes sense to have the vet visit your place rather than trailer your horse to the vet. I don't know how much extra your vet charges, but it probably easily would cover the time, gas, and bother of trailering Wiseguy to the vet.

It's a good idea, though, to have your trailer up and running, in case there's some sort of emergency where you may have to trailer Wiseguy to the vet or elsewhere. I've never had this happen with Penny -- the vet has been able to handle any emergency at the barn -- but you never know if something will get more complicated and you'll need to take Wiseguy somewhere for more detailed care. Here, if the vet can't handle it, we take horses to Cornell Univ., where there's a good vet hospital. Let's say there was a case of colic that wouldn't resolve at home, and you opted for colic surgery. You might need to transport Wiseguy quickly with not much advance warning. Colic is the most likely scenario, but there could be any number of possible emergencies that make having your trailer ready to go a good idea.

If you discuss deworming, ask the vet about doing it based on fecals. That's the way to go these days. You can probably have the vet suggest a type of dewormer to use, buy it at your local store or online, and deworm him yourself cheaper than buying the dewormer from the vet. If you're unsure how to do it, maybe having the vet teach you would be a good idea. Otherwise, get your own dewormer and do it yourself. The vet usually charges nearly double what you'd pay for dewormer elsewhere. The same with any other meds you may ever need. Get a prescription from the vet and buy it cheaper elsewhere. Having some bute on hand for emergencies is probably a good idea, even if you'll never need it.

The vet may do this as a matter of routine, but have his teeth checked and floated if necessary. If he hasn't had them floated in a year or so, expect that they'll need to be done. The vet should use a speculum so he/she can do a thorough job. Just pulling the tongue out and to the side to keep the horse's mouth open doesn't provide access to the teeth at the very back. Expect that, if Wiseguy needs his teeth floated, he'll be sedated. While he's waking up, don't let him eat any hay, since until his reflexes are back to normal, he might not chew well and choke. I think leading him around at a walk after he gets coordinated enough for that helps the circulation rid the horse of the sedative, but maybe I just think i'm doing something to speed things along and keeping myself busy.

If you have a bunch of questions you want to ask the vet, be sure to make a written list. You don't know how many times I've forgotten something I wanted to ask when the vet visited. It also helps to write down the answers rather than having to depend on your memory. At least I find my mind works that way. I need to write things down if I want to remember them.
 

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Good advice, SandySu. We don't have a problem worming Wiseguy but we used Ivermectin which doesn't get rid of some kinds of worms, I have been finding out. Wiseguy just had his teeth floated last year but of course I will want the vet to look into that. We give the goats shots ourselves but the goats are sort of not valuable but Wiseguy is valuable so I think I will have the vet do his shots. I'll ask the vet about the bute.

List so far, bute, teeth, wormer? We will probably deworm ourselves after the vet comes this time.

We didn't know the trailer had a busted spring holder until Hubby stole the tires to work on his wood splitter. Hubby will have to weld that up. In the meantime, the trailer is technically usable in an emergency.
 

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Good advice, SandySu. We don't have a problem worming Wiseguy but we used Ivermectin which doesn't get rid of some kinds of worms, I have been finding out. Wiseguy just had his teeth floated last year but of course I will want the vet to look into that. We give the goats shots ourselves but the goats are sort of not valuable but Wiseguy is valuable so I think I will have the vet do his shots. I'll ask the vet about the bute.

List so far, bute, teeth, wormer? We will probably deworm ourselves after the vet comes this time.

We didn't know the trailer had a busted spring holder until Hubby stole the tires to work on his wood splitter. Hubby will have to weld that up. In the meantime, the trailer is technically usable in an emergency.

Ivermectin doesn't get rid of encysted small strongyles, but it gets rid of other life cycle stages, and it's much safer than moxidectin, which does get rid of the encysted stage, too. What I think you mean is praziquantel, which gets rid of tapeworms. There are dewormers that have this added both to ivermectin and moxidectin, so you can still use your preferred dewormer (ivermectin) that has praziquantel in it, too. For instance, Zimectrin is just plain ivermectin, and Zimectrin Gold is ivermectin with praziquantel. If you want to use moxidectin (brand name Quest), the kind that has praziquantel added is Quest Plus. The problem with moxidectin is that there's a much smaller margin of safety, so you have to be really careful to give the correct dose, not too much. It has been known to do harm to small-sized horses, mainly minis and foals, when the dosage was too high. I may not have the numbers remembered just right, but ivermectin has a margin of safety such that you can give a horse 50 times the recommended dosage, and moxidectin only has a margin of safety at 5 times the dosage. With a small horse that doesn't get a full tube, just a little extra might make him sick or kill him. So people with minis are generally told to not give them Quest because it's too easy to mess up.

Horses generally need their teeth floated yearly, so he may easily need it again.

Many people give their horses the shots, and when you get more used to the protocol, you may want to do this yourself, but it's always good to have the vet check the horse over yearly, so I like the vet to come. Besides, I don't do injections. I have a needle phobia, which is much better now than when I was younger, but still, I can't imagine myself sticking a needle into anything living.

The vet will know what shots are pertinent to your area, but here, the basic ones are WEE/EEE, tetanus, and West Nile. I think there's usually a flu vaccine mixed into the combo shot of WEE/EEE and tetanus (a 3-way shot), but it's pretty useless. Wiseguy is probably not going to catch the flu unless he's around other horses, like at a show. And then the intranasal kind of flu vaccine is much more effective. There's also an intranasal strangles vaccine, but again, how likely is it that Wiseguy will come into contact with a horse with strangles? Those last 2 vaccines are more for horses that go to shows or other competitions where they meet up with a lot of strange horses. Then there's a rabies shot. That's really important in my area, but some parts of the country don't have a rabies problem, and people don't give that shot. There are other less common vaccines that you'd only give if your horse was likely to come into contact with the disease, like Potomac Horse Fever, but I doubt that's prevalent out west. there might be vaccines your vet will recommend that mine wouldn't, and vice versa, since we live in different parts of the country.

I'm glad to hear your trailer could be used if you had to. You may never need it, but it's good to be ready for anything.
 
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