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I've been trying to find the answer to whether nicotine evaporates. I haven't had much luck, but here are some discussions with advice about how to store e-liquid.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/2842-taking-care-eliquid.html
E-Liquid Care and Storage
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/2842-taking-care-eliquid.html
E-Liquid Care and Storage
Most coffee makers go off automatically after a couple of hours nowadays, so I got myself a Thermos coffee carafe. If I pre-heat that puppy, and pour my freshly brewed coffee into it, my java will stay hot sometimes for at least 24 hours without getting that "old coffee" taste. I make sure that I have hot coffee waiting for me when I wobble out of bed in the morning. Without it, I wouldn't be able to function - at least not on a human level. Possibly a less evolved primate, but certainly not human.
Nic oxidizes rapidly when exposed to open air. Exactly how rapidly, you'll have to ask smarter people than me in the DIY forums
I'm sure someone must have oxidized some nic and seen how much it loses strength...When Nic oxidizes, two distinct things happen:
1. Nic level lowers
2. It turns yellow and gets gradually bitter.
Learned this one the hard way with one of my bottles. This is why steeping is so popular. It can take a juice that's a bit too strong and weaken it through oxidation, and reduce the sweetness of some flavors with the bitter aspect. It also causes the juice to darken (not good for cartomizers in my experience). Some also say steeping allows complex flavorings to mix better, but I've found heating the juice in the bottle with the cap on does the same thing and I don't lose nic strength. To steep like this:
- Warm water by either microwaving for 60 seconds or heating on a stovetop until almost boiling then letting it cool a bit
- Once the bottle won't melt, put the bottle in
- Let sit for 5 minutes, then give it a good shake
- Repeat last step 2 or 3 more times
- Let sit in the warm water bath until the water is cooled
Viola! Instant steep without waiting a week and letting your nic oxidize out of the juice.
As with all DIY, YMMV.
Edit - Found some research and I guess it doesn't oxidize quite as rapidly as I thought... Check about midway down on this newsletter post from Madvapes
http://www.madvapes.com/Newsletter-31612_b_60.html
Enjoy!
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Madvapes has had that test running for a while now. I am glad someone is doing it... Good for future reference...
I'm not sure if what we vape is freebase nicotine or some other nicotine compound (nitrates, sulphates etc.)
Nic oxidizes rapidly when exposed to open air. Exactly how rapidly, you'll have to ask smarter people than me in the DIY forums
When Nic oxidizes, two distinct things happen:
1. Nic level lowers
2. It turns yellow and gets gradually bitter.
Learned this one the hard way with one of my bottles. This is why steeping is so popular. It can take a juice that's a bit too strong and weaken it through oxidation, and reduce the sweetness of some flavors with the bitter aspect. It also causes the juice to darken (not good for cartomizers in my experience). Some also say steeping allows complex flavorings to mix better, but I've found heating the juice in the bottle with the cap on does the same thing and I don't lose nic strength. To steep like this:
- Warm water by either microwaving for 60 seconds or heating on a stovetop until almost boiling then letting it cool a bit
- Once the bottle won't melt, put the bottle in
- Let sit for 5 minutes, then give it a good shake
- Repeat last step 2 or 3 more times
- Let sit in the warm water bath until the water is cooled
Viola! Instant steep without waiting a week and letting your nic oxidize out of the juice.
As with all DIY, YMMV.
Edit - Found some research and I guess it doesn't oxidize quite as rapidly as I thought... Check about midway down on this newsletter post from Madvapes
http://www.madvapes.com/Newsletter-31612_b_60.html
Enjoy!
Thanks for that link. If you follow it, I hope you'll let us know what the long-term results are, too.
Interesting about the instant steeping. I wonder what the heat does long-term, too, though. still, as a person eager to try new e-liquids as soon as I get them, I may give it a try. If I do, I'll be sure to let everyone know what happened.
Oops! duplicate post. ECF was behaving strangely, and I thought my post hadn't gone through. Sorry!
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I wondered that, too, but my guess is that you pour boiling water in it and let it sit for a minute or so.
I just fill it with hot water from the tap. I'm too lazy for boiling, but I imagine that would make it stay hot even longer. They are pretty pricey and there are quite a few similar units that are sub-par from the reviews I've read. But when you think about it - you're saving 2 hours of electricity with each pot you make if you leave it sit there to simmer. It's a small amount of energy, but adds up over time. I've had my Thermos carafe (the exact one in the pic) for well over a year, and it performs like the day I bought it.
I use hot tap water too in my carafe. I fill the carafe before I start the coffee maker. Another benefit besides saving the electricity is that coffee starts to lose flavor while it sits on the warming plate, but retains it in a carafe.
I have two coffee pots that use those type of carafes. I also have a carafe that plugs in the wall that has a pump. I do not like coffee to overcook and I do not like to wait either - they give you the best of both worlds. I had thought about getting one of those new coffee makers that makes one cup at a time, but that wastes a lot of coffee. With what it takes with it to make 3 cups I can make a pot and I like my coffee strong... (old military - 3am shift - if the coffee doesn't support the spoon - it aint strong enough)...
Is your pluggy-in carafe with a pump a French Press? I've thought of trying those ...
+1 on coffee that can support the spoon. I dated a plastic surgeon for awhile that got me hooked on Turkish coffee. It's served in these little tiny demitasse, but maaaan - one serving and your eyeballs are propped open for 24 hours. Slight exaggeration, but you get the drift ...
You mean those ones?
Very popular here and Turkey, it is considered to be the best coffee.
Doesn't do anything to me anyway, even red bull doesn't affect me and i drink it only as a refreshment.
Very popular here and Turkey, it is considered to be the best coffee.
Doesn't do anything to me anyway, even red bull doesn't affect me and i drink it only as a refreshment.
Yeah, what he said. It doesn't evaporate, but it denatures and loses its potency. I only brought it up because I'm one of those that don't think keeping the cap off for very long is a good idea.Nic oxidizes rapidly when exposed to open air. Exactly how rapidly, you'll have to ask smarter people than me in the DIY forums
When Nic oxidizes, two distinct things happen:
1. Nic level lowers
2. It turns yellow and gets gradually bitter.
Learned this one the hard way with one of my bottles. This is why steeping is so popular. It can take a juice that's a bit too strong and weaken it through oxidation, and reduce the sweetness of some flavors with the bitter aspect. It also causes the juice to darken (not good for cartomizers in my experience). Some also say steeping allows complex flavorings to mix better, but I've found heating the juice in the bottle with the cap on does the same thing and I don't lose nic strength. To steep like this:
- Warm water by either microwaving for 60 seconds or heating on a stovetop until almost boiling then letting it cool a bit
- Once the bottle won't melt, put the bottle in
- Let sit for 5 minutes, then give it a good shake
- Repeat last step 2 or 3 more times
- Let sit in the warm water bath until the water is cooled
Viola! Instant steep without waiting a week and letting your nic oxidize out of the juice.
As with all DIY, YMMV.
Edit - Found some research and I guess it doesn't oxidize quite as rapidly as I thought... Check about midway down on this newsletter post from Madvapes
http://www.madvapes.com/Newsletter-31612_b_60.html
Enjoy!
Update from ECBlends: they don't add ethyl alcohol into the mix, but it's in a lot of manufacturers' flavorings, so they listed it on the label....and of course, I ordered double extra flavoring!
I think I just need to let it steep a little. Then it won't be so harsh on the TH...
Other vendors may differ, but here's an uber-informative sheet on their website: What's in e-liquid?
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Turkish Coffee gets drank around my house periodically and it taste just fine, but that is not how I learned to drink strong coffee. I got into drinking strong coffee in Korea. They serve it in tiny cups, but use enough coffee to make a pot!!! It makes espresso taste like tea...
While I can not and do not do it anymore - there was a time in my life I would drink a cup of coffee before I went to bed - it was to relieve some of my tiredness and wake me up enough to let me sleep better (16 hour work shifts - 6 days a week)... Shoot, I had nights I would wake up around 2 - or 3am - have a cup of coffee and then go back to sleep... Cannot do that nowadays either. We really do change as we age don't we..., but my first cup of coffee in the morning has to lift the hair on my chest or it aint worth drinking...
While I can not and do not do it anymore - there was a time in my life I would drink a cup of coffee before I went to bed - it was to relieve some of my tiredness and wake me up enough to let me sleep better (16 hour work shifts - 6 days a week)... Shoot, I had nights I would wake up around 2 - or 3am - have a cup of coffee and then go back to sleep... Cannot do that nowadays either. We really do change as we age don't we..., but my first cup of coffee in the morning has to lift the hair on my chest or it aint worth drinking...
Doubling the flavor with a lot of flavors would make it sharper on the throat...
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