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SandySu

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The one that sounds sick won't let peeps near him. The herd has an auto fountain - which I still spray whenever I'm out there in hopes it will help. Also keepin the water level low to help keep it clear since it's apparently their mouthwash! Yeah - I've been concerned about my kids gettin exposed to somethin ... I'll have to check & see where I can find cubes! Thanks again for the info! You are a treasure Raynes!

I keep trippin over Stronglies & Strangles & Shippin Fever. Keep thinkin at first it's all the same disease - but know it isn't. Yeah - my kids are on the other side of the barn (sniff sniff - where I can't see them) - the youngster had Fever so he said she's safe from gettin it again. Sultan - doesn't seem to be bothered by any of that. I clean the water tank daily w/ Oxine diluted in spray bottle (none activated). I got started using it when we had chickens. Read about it's many wonderful uses in organics & poultry. Was contemplating locking the filly inside and 'foggin' her.
Fogging saved a duck w/ upper Respiratory illness. Just a few drops in water tanks keeps that clean & clear.

Keepin' fingers crossed after 4 showings (has to be a God thing!) this week that we get our place sold again!

i, too, think you should keep the new horses separated from yours. and be prepared for all the horses to get sick, especially if they are close enough to touch noses over a fence. but some illnesses can be airborne so it's best if the 2 herds are even more separated. strangles is extremely contagious. if you suspect tat disease, you must tend to your herd first, then the sick or exposed horses. then decontaminate your clothes and footwear before leaving the sick horse area. yes, it can be tracked to other areas on your shoes. penny was at a barn where a new horse came down with strangles. because of careful precautions, not a single other horse got it. the barn owner had the new horse separated, and she put on a jumpsuit over her clothes whenever she entered his stall to treat him. she also had a footbath of disinfectant she stepped into when leaving his stall. she wore rubber gloves when hsndling him. i didn't get too close lest i might transmit it to penny, but some online research will tell you what to do. if the sick horse gets an oozing sore under his jawbone, it's strangles. it's usually not fatal if it does spread to the other horses, but i've read about a form called ....... strangles that is more serious because the infection is internal.

strongyles is a kind of worm horses get. deworming the horses probably took care of it. it can be transmitted to your horses from hay fed on the ground that might be contaminated with manure. and resistant strains of these worms are developing in places so you need to not deworm horses unless it's necessary. at the farm where i board penny, we do fecal tests to see which horses have a worm load worth addressing, and just those horses are treated.

shipping fever is equine flu, i think, which is like a bad cold.

i'm sending place-selling vibes. in fact, i'm also sending horse-get-well vibes.
 

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Thanks Wuz. Now my question is--How can we be sure its resolved? Uncle got nic poisoning and now 2tone. Isolated incidences? Accidents?
Or is it happening all over again?
Any idea where I can find any answers to my questions? Wonder if they make nic testing kits for a dummy like me,with KISS instructions.


Raynes, this is not a plug for a product, but, I ordered my kit from Konstantine who is an active member of this thread. I haven't pulled the product out of the container yet because I have nowhere to set up right now. I'm sure if you have any questions, he will be happy to answer them.
Here is a link to his ebay page.
Niquid test kit, full chemical set. Nicotine test kit. | eBay
 

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now for bad news about my broken shoulder. on wednesday, i go into the hospital for an operation to put a plate into my upper arm that will hold the 2 pieces together. this is scary, but not as scary as the news that,even with the operation, i may never have full range of motion in that arm. if i don't get the operation, i may never be able to raise my arm higher than my shoulder. if i do get the operation. i'll be able to touch the top of my head. i'll need physical therapy afterwards. i'm hoping if i really work at it, i may someday be able to reach up over my head to a high shelf. of course, this may mean that i can't saddle penny w/o help. or maybe i can stand on a stool or the mounting block. or maybe this means i should give up riding and just go to the barn and pamper penny. after all, she isn't totally sound now. maybe it's time for us both to retire. i guess i'll wait and see how it goes, how i feel about it when the arm heals and i could ride again.

i have very long hair, and i'm thinking of getting it cut. then i could care for it w/o help while i heal. this will be traumatic for me. i've had long hair for years and years, but i think it makes sense. you may think worrying about my hair at a time like this is silly, but it'll be such a change. i guess this will be a time of changes for me.
 

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wow. i never heard of iud's for horses before. so of course i looked it up. if i had a mare who needed regumate, i'd probably want to give it a try. but penny is always very sweet and tractable when she's in heat, and i'm leery of interfering with that. don' fix what ain't broken, they say. first, from what i read, you need a vet who knows the method. there's some danger of infection. you need to check and adjust the position of the marble with ultrasound. you need to use the correct size of marble or else it may be expelled. it sounds like it might be more costly and complicated than you made it sound. i'd be very interested in hearing about your friend's mare and how it works. they are looking into this and other long-term birth control methods for wild mustangs.

did you mention strangles in connection with that other mare's swollen nose? it's not. she has had this condition for at least the few months i've known her, and probably for some time before that. it's possible that the swelling is from the bad teeth i hear she has. i really don't know, but i think she's in pain and has been for a long time, so i hope the barn owner does something about it soon.

Sandy,this procedure was done on my vet's 10yr old grandaughter's mare. Yes there is some danger of infection if there is a break in sterile technique. All I know is what I observed and what my vet told me. He didn't do an ultrasound but then the mare has never been bred.
Hooray someone is FINALLY thinking about the mustangs. Hope its not too late to keep them from being slaughtered.They could have already done something to control herd populations way before now IMO. From what I observed its a whole lot easier to geld than it is ton insert an IUD in a mare. That cervix is a longgg way in there. Probably BLM blowing smoke again. Wish they would "walk the walk instead of just talking it".
No Sandy I didn't mention strangles regarding the poor mare at your stables,that was Kicco's horse rescue situation. I suggested that your rescue could have an abcessed tooth or teeth,vitamin/mineral deficits as reasons for her cribbing. I hope your barn owner helps her to,poor baby.
How are you feeling? Has your surgery been scheduled yet?
 

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I'm pretty sure Gourmet Vapor also used their base and got banned from ECF. No telling how many others were using them as well. The disclaimers came flying out by the various juice vendors. I diy now and strictly use Wizzard Labs. RTS is also reputable. Both are trustworthy imo.
I saw that about Gourmet Vapor to. So glad that they got banned from ECF they should have been. Bet they are still in business somewhere though not here,but somewhere.
 

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Hi Raynes, Thanks for your concern. I see my VA doctor pretty regularly, but I didn't need him for this. It was my own stupidity that caused this and the symptoms I had were, migrane type headaches (I've never had a migrane but I've heard they're terrible), I never had headaches like this before, (No matter how drunk I used to get:p), the nausea and bathroom problems were the worst. The symptoms you mentioned were also included, plus stress, which was why I continued to use the product. It made me feel good. NEVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!:facepalm:
I think your being too hard on yourself. The company you got your vapes from being a sister co. of Box Elder and Gourmet Vapes well I don't see how it could be your fault. There's a connection there.
 

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now for bad news about my broken shoulder. on wednesday, i go into the hospital for an operation to put a plate into my upper arm that will hold the 2 pieces together. this is scary, but not as scary as the news that,even with the operation, i may never have full range of motion in that arm. if i don't get the operation, i may never be able to raise my arm higher than my shoulder. if i do get the operation. i'll be able to touch the top of my head. i'll need physical therapy afterwards. i'm hoping if i really work at it, i may someday be able to reach up over my head to a high shelf. of course, this may mean that i can't saddle penny w/o help. or maybe i can stand on a stool or the mounting block. or maybe this means i should give up riding and just go to the barn and pamper penny. after all, she isn't totally sound now. maybe it's time for us both to retire. i guess i'll wait and see how it goes, how i feel about it when the arm heals and i could ride again.

i have very long hair, and i'm thinking of getting it cut. then i could care for it w/o help while i heal. this will be traumatic for me. i've had long hair for years and years, but i think it makes sense. you may think worrying about my hair at a time like this is silly, but it'll be such a change. i guess this will be a time of changes for me.
SandySu, miracles happen every day, and I believe that how much you regain of your range of motion will depend on how diligently you work at it. Besides, you still have your OTHER arm! ;) So cheer up - it coulda been a lot worse! You'll have to make a few adjustments, but I'm sure you'll be back to your old life in no time!

And short hair is a lot of fun! I just cut mine to that "bedhead" look (sorta like Halle Berry's). Now I get up, mess it up even more, spritz with a little hair spray, and go! So much more carefree than dealing with all that hair every morning! Plus it makes you look 10 years younger! :thumb: :laugh:
 

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I think your being too hard on yourself. The company you got your vapes from being a sister co. of Box Elder and Gourmet Vapes well I don't see how it could be your fault. There's a connection there.

Thank you again for your concern, but I have to fess up to stupidity.

I knew BE and HV were connected and involved in poor QC operations.

I didn't throw the stuff out because I paid alot for it. So, it's been sitting around for almost a year, the economy sucks, and I guess the only thing I can say is, I played Russian Roulette.

The samples I ordered were all marked 12mg, that's what I ordered. Eighty bucks worth of 5ml assorted flavors. When I hit the bad batch, the hit was so good that I didn't stop until too late. Stupid is a stupid does. And to tell the truth, stupid learns.

Until the vaping industry is somewhat regulated, there will be mistakes. I can guarantee nic OD will never happen to me again. I'm aware now. And I hope I have made everyone else aware.

The vaping community is doing a damn fine job policing itself thanks to sites like ecf. We watch each others backs, and if something stinks, everyone will know about it, sooner or later.

Konstantines kit is a great tool to have around, but you don't really need it if you have common sense. I need it.

Thanks again for trying to soften the blow to my ego.

'nuff said.
 

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SandySu, miracles happen every day, and I believe that how much you regain of your range of motion will depend on how diligently you work at it. Besides, you still have your OTHER arm! ;) So cheer up - it coulda been a lot worse! You'll have to make a few adjustments, but I'm sure you'll be back to your old life in no time!

And short hair is a lot of fun! I just cut mine to that "bedhead" look (sorta like Halle Berry's). Now I get up, mess it up even more, spritz with a little hair spray, and go! So much more carefree than dealing with all that hair every morning! Plus it makes you look 10 years younger! :thumb: :laugh:

thanks for the pep talk. i decided to donate my long hair to a charity that makes wigs for people who need them. now to find a local salon that participates. bedhead look sounds good about now.
 

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Sandysu, you might want to consider donating that cut long hair to Locks of Love or whatever its called (somebody help:blush:). The organization takes cut hair to make wigs for kids going through cancer treatment. Maybe that would help soften the blow of getting it cut. :unsure:

just a thought...:blush:

great minds think alike. i did some research online, and locks of love throws out more donated hair than they use. some of the other charities that do this sound more hopeful. i'll research who would take my hair and hope the hairdresser knows how to do it correctly. off to do more research.
 

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SandySu, miracles happen every day, and I believe that how much you regain of your range of motion will depend on how diligently you work at it. Besides, you still have your OTHER arm! ;) So cheer up - it coulda been a lot worse! You'll have to make a few adjustments, but I'm sure you'll be back to your old life in no time!

And short hair is a lot of fun! I just cut mine to that "bedhead" look (sorta like Halle Berry's). Now I get up, mess it up even more, spritz with a little hair spray, and go! So much more carefree than dealing with all that hair every morning! Plus it makes you look 10 years younger! :thumb: :laugh:

Now wait. Hold up. Why use hair spray if you want bedhead? I'm sooo confused!! :laugh:
 

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Now wait. Hold up. Why use hair spray if you want bedhead? I'm sooo confused!! :laugh:

When I don't use hairspray, it turns into the "Moe" look.

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Not pretty! :lol:
I have wimpy hair.
 
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now for bad news about my broken shoulder. on wednesday, i go into the hospital for an operation to put a plate into my upper arm that will hold the 2 pieces together. this is scary, but not as scary as the news that,even with the operation, i may never have full range of motion in that arm. if i don't get the operation, i may never be able to raise my arm higher than my shoulder. if i do get the operation. i'll be able to touch the top of my head. i'll need physical therapy afterwards. i'm hoping if i really work at it, i may someday be able to reach up over my head to a high shelf. of course, this may mean that i can't saddle penny w/o help. or maybe i can stand on a stool or the mounting block. or maybe this means i should give up riding and just go to the barn and pamper penny. after all, she isn't totally sound now. maybe it's time for us both to retire. i guess i'll wait and see how it goes, how i feel about it when the arm heals and i could ride again.

i have very long hair, and i'm thinking of getting it cut. then i could care for it w/o help while i heal. this will be traumatic for me. i've had long hair for years and years, but i think it makes sense. you may think worrying about my hair at a time like this is silly, but it'll be such a change. i guess this will be a time of changes for me.

Sandy, I am so sorry. Don't give up. Drs don't know everything. They told me after I fractured my pelvis I would always have to use a cane. I don't need one I walk just fine. Your like me Sandy, your lucky. Lucky to be alive, lucky to feel pain. I'm betting you will be able to saddle Penny on your own, I'm betting you will be able to ride again. Just gotta "Cowgirl Up" like we used to say on the rodeo circuit.
I can see a teenage girl wearing your hair going to what maybe her first and only prom with a handsome young man. What a gift you are giving. HUGS !!! Take care of you and keep me posted of your progress.
 
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