CHIT CHAT in VOLTVILLE

[kico166]

I tried talking to her again.its no use...they have been joined at the hip...for 50 years...mum rules the roost always has....dad wont bite the hand that cares for him..that being mum....I couldn't get him on his own if I tried...her final statement is when me and your father feel we are ready and well enough...then and only then.so that's that...I told her when she needs me...she knows where I am..and ill be there asap..........im not beating myself up over it....im seeing my head doctor tomorrow....and download the whole lot on him...I feel sorry for him....but that's his job..thanks for your words im just abit numb atm.....

Hugs Deb. Glad you have someone to there. Sometimes I have considered it to find middle ground w/ mom & her hoarding.
Such a fine line between honoring a parent & your own (and maybe even others) needs. Keeping you near today.
Time for work.

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[JoAnnW]

OK, here's another snowy (for Debra) road picture (for Lizzie).

This is at the top of what they call the Backbone. It's the highest point between Seneca and Cayuga Lakes. It's a ridge that runs through the Finger Lakes National Forest, the only national forest in NY State. The others you may think of first, like the Adirondacks, are state forests. What happened in this area is that during the Depression, a lot of farmers went out of business, and the government bought up their land. Since then, it's gone back to forest, and you can find the remnants of old homesteads hidden in the woods. Some of the land is still pastures, and the government rents those out to local cattle farmers, and cattle graze on those pastures in summer. In fall, the cattle are rounded up and loaded into trucks to go off to the butcher or back to their farms or wherever. Many times, people on horseback do the rounding up, and I wanted to give it a try with Penny, but the time I got a chance, the horsemen weren't able to make it, so they had guys on ATVs who got the cattle galloping toward us, and Penny panicked. Not good, though she could have dumped me and run for home, and she stayed under reasonable control, which is one reason why I love her so much.

We have microclimates here, and the Backbone has a lot more snow than down by the lakes. The mild winter temperatures near the water and the steep slopes going down to the lakes are why this area is so good for growing grapes to make wine.

Ok... this is scary! When I came back to your post to comment about this photo, it looked like that car got bigger, getting closer! I'm not crazy... Couldn't see the headlights before, now I can.

 

[kico166]

You and the "girly thread" gave me some great ideas. I do love the bling! Starting with a black & gold beaded lanyard that I'm currently working on. Dangly charms... YES! Totally forgot about fingernail decals. Will have to check those out too.

Knowing my mom, she will think I've turned into an idol worshipper!!

Forgot : JoAnn be sure you seal the entire battery when you're done! I wasn't sure if I wanted to add a bit more so I just polished that area. The polish came off after 3 months. The decal stayed but lost the shine. That was a black rubbery one. The purple is holding up well! I keep hoping to find (affordable) heat shrink tubing that works with a hair dryer.

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[JoAnnW]

Forgot : JoAnn be sure you seal the entire battery when you're done! I wasn't sure if I wanted to add a bit more so I just polished that area. The polish came off after 3 months. The decal stayed but lost the shine. That was a black rubbery one. The purple is holding up well! I keep hoping to find (affordable) heat shrink tubing that works with a hair dryer.

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Seal it with what? Clear topcoat nailpolish? I hesitate because I don't want to ruin the battery's finish. Also, what is the best thing to use to clean the battery without changing the rubbery smooth finish?

 

[SandySu]

Remember our recent discussion about nutrition, and someone mentioned almond milk? I got curious, so yesterday, I got some and tried it this morning. It's good! Thanks for the suggestion. I tolerate regular milk just fine, but almond milk is an interesting change of pace.

 

[SandySu]

Ok... this is scary! When I came back to your post to comment about this photo, it looked like that car got bigger, getting closer! I'm not crazy... Couldn't see the headlights before, now I can.

OK, what are you putting in that e-cig?

 

[White Rabbit]

I AM LOST
I've gone to
look for myself
If I should return
before I get back
please ask me to wait

 

[Tail11]

It's usually by the band-aids. Little bottle, I think the brand is "Hummco."
If there's a Tractor Supply store near you, they sell PG for like $21/gallon.

I live in a large agricultural area, so I'm sure I can find it. I have to ask, why would PG be at a tractor supply store? Do tractors need PG? <really confused>

 

[Tail11]

OMG! Broken knee cap! That had to have been... 8-o I can't even imagine that!! Well... you're riding a motorcycle with Whisper now, so you've come a long way. Way to go!!!

I was young when it happened. It took me a year before they finally did the surgery. I played a lot of softball back then. It got to the point where I had to hobble to first base after I hit the ball. This was way before they did arthroscopic surgeries, so I assume that is why they waited for so long.

It would take a lot more than a sore knee to keep me off my bike!

 

[SandySu]

I live in a large agricultural area, so I'm sure I can find it. I have to ask, why would PG be at a tractor supply store? Do tractors need PG? <really confused>

Tractor Supply isn't just about tractors. It has all sorts of agricultural products. I get fly spray for my horse there, and they sell salt blocks for cattle & horses, halters, shampoo, nutritional supplements, and all sorts of other stuff. But I did wonder what agricultural uses propylene glycol might have, so I googled it, and here's one use for cows. PROPLYENE GLYCOL LIQUID [UNITED AGRICULTURAL & VETERINARY PRODUCTS, INC/CENTAUR, INC.]

 

[White Rabbit]

I live in a large agricultural area, so I'm sure I can find it. I have to ask, why would PG be at a tractor supply store? Do tractors need PG? <really confused>

I am not too sure I would want to inhale PG from Tractor Supply, however there is a lot of discussion on the forums about using it. As for why it is found at Tractor Supply? I have no clue, but PG is cheap at Wizard Labs and is USP, so if you need any I suggest going there.

I have posted this before so bear with me. If you are doing DIY, purchase your base at Wizard Labs in PURE PG at double your nic strength.
Then purchase your VG at Wally Mart $3.00 for 6 ounces. Mix your VG with the PG double nic from WL to lower the nic and get your % PG/VG the way you desire. Example: Mixing 50 ML of Wally Mart VG with 50 ML of the 100% PG nic base at say 24 Ml nic will give you a clear base of 50/50 PG/VG at 12 Ml nic. That is what I use. If you want higher PG, then only mix in 30 ML VG and you will get a 70/30 PG/VG at approximately 16.8 nic.

PS: Tractor supply is a good place to get syringes of all sizes very cheap. They also have tips for them, but no small plastic bottles for mixing. I get them from Wizard Labs.

 

[Tail11]

Tractor Supply isn't just about tractors. It has all sorts of agricultural products. I get fly spray for my horse there, and they sell salt blocks for cattle & horses, halters, shampoo, nutritional supplements, and all sorts of other stuff. But I did wonder what agricultural uses propylene glycol might have, so I googled it, and here's one use for cows. PROPLYENE GLYCOL LIQUID [UNITED AGRICULTURAL & VETERINARY PRODUCTS, INC/CENTAUR, INC.]

Thanks Sandy. I read the post as if it was for tractors. Duh! There's a feed store in town that carries a lot of different animal related stuff. I'll check in there first and make sure it's food grade. Otherwise, I'll go to WL.

 

[awsum140]

I'm cheap and love to save a buck, but I still prefer to use PG, VG and nicotine that are USP and food grade for human consumption. I'm a regular at Tractor Supply, but will stick with sources for DIY ingredients that I'm, shall we say, more confident in. After all, I'm inhaling this stuff almost all day and I see Tractor Supply as sort of a farmers Wally World, kind of wonder where all of the stuff comes from.

Just my opinion, worth what your paying for it. Your results and mileage may vary. No warranty or guarantee is expressed or implied. ring a ding a cha cha chaa

 

[Tail11]

I am not too sure I would want to inhale PG from Tractor Supply, however there is a lot of discussion on the forums about using it. As for why it is found at Tractor Supply? I have no clue, but PG is cheap at Wizard Labs and is USP, so if you need any I suggest going there.

I have posted this before so bear with me. If you are doing DIY, purchase your base at Wizard Labs in PURE PG at double your nic strength.
Then purchase your VG at Wally Mart $3.00 for 6 ounces. Mix your VG with the PG double nic from WL to lower the nic and get your % PG/VG the way you desire. Example: Mixing 50 ML of Wally Mart VG with 50 ML of the 100% PG nic base at say 24 Ml nic will give you a clear base of 50/50 PG/VG at 12 Ml nic. That is what I use. If you want higher PG, then only mix in 30 ML VG and you will get a 70/30 PG/VG at approximately 16.8 nic.

PS: Tractor supply is a good place to get syringes of all sizes very cheap. They also have tips for them, but no small plastic bottles for mixing. I get them from Wizard Labs.

Thanks Rabbit! I saw this post, but I've copied it. I'm trying to learn about DIY. So I beg forgiveness if I ask kinda dumb questions.

 

[Tail11]

I'm cheap and love to save a buck, but I still prefer to use PG, VG and nicotine that are USP and food grade for human consumption. I'm a regular at Tractor Supply, but will stick with sources for DIY ingredients that I'm, shall we say, more confident in. After all, I'm inhaling this stuff almost all day and I see Tractor Supply as sort of a farmers Wally World, kind of wonder where all of the stuff comes from.

Just my opinion, worth what your paying for it. Your results and mileage may vary. No warranty or guarantee is expressed or implied. ring a ding a cha cha chaa

I agree. Perhaps I won't bother with the feed store. If it says for animal consumption only, I'd rather not use it. I'm not that cheap to order some human grade stuff!

 

[White Rabbit]

I agree. Perhaps I won't bother with the feed store. If it says for animal consumption only, I'd rather not use it. I'm not that cheap to order some human grade stuff!

Wizard Labs is inexpensive for each individual flavor, however if you purchase a variety of flavors, bottles, pipettes, base PG/VG mix etc., it can quickly add up. I probably have about $50 alone tied up in DIY and have only found one mix that I will vape on a daily basis. That said, it is a lot of fun experimenting in order to possibly find a nice combination of flavors that are tasty. One that I hope will turn out because I love the flavor is Jim Beam Devil's Cut Bourbon. The flavor is fantastic, so I am letting a shot glass full sit out to see how long it takes for the alcohol to evaporate and leave a lot of Burbon base for me to mix into some PG/VG and vape. Drunken Vapor is what I will call it.

 

[awsum140]

The cost of DIY when compared to the cost of premixed liquids is still a lot less expensive. The bottles, syringes and pipettes are all basically one shot expenses...I wash out the pipettes and syringes/needles as I go to stretch them out which I think most or all DIYers do. I do have about ten dollars worth of flavors I'll probably never use since I tried them and don't like them. I do have a tendency to overdo things and have a drawer full of extra syringes, needles and pipettes but I don't worry about running out of anything that way. I am stocking up on PG, VG and nicotine, just in case the FDA puts its grubby fingers into vaping, and order more flavors and such when I buy them to keep shipping costs down. Overall, I'm mixing for less than a dime a milliliter, hard to beat by buying commercial liquids and I have control of the ingredients.

 

[Renolizzie]

Time for my second cup of coffee. Christmas blend this morning. Yeah, Hubby got me a couple of extra bags before the end of the year.

I still think that DIY isn't for everyone. It takes up a lot of space, there is an initial investment and you do have to be careful when you are using higher strength nicotine. I am not a naturally oraganized person and I work really hard at making sure that everything is picked up and wiped up so Hubby doesn't use the work bench and get a dose of nicotine. Or something doesn't get down to doggie level because Penny could hurt herself. Also, I love the SI flavors. 555, Ry4, Freedom, Watermelon - they are yummy.

Having said that, I am kind of enjoying the whole process.

Well, I have the hedge trimmer warming up on the kitchen counter. Hubby said it would start easier that way. Warm today but the wind is coming up later with gusts to 22mph so I better get some yard work and pet clean up done early!

Deb - Hang in there. You are a nice person and there is only so much you can do about your family. You being a good person makes the world a better place so keep up the good work and don't let the family dynamics get to you.

 

[White Rabbit]

Well RenoLizzie and awsum140, my Drunken Vapor mix just isn't going to work out I found that you can burn off the vapor like in flaumbe (sp?), so I put some in a very small pan on low heat on the stove and lit it with a lighter. I let it burn off, almost to a boil for several minutes until the flame went out. The resulting liquid was sweet with a very light burbon taste, not like the original with alcohol. I did read somewhere that the alcohol adds tons to the taste. Well I guess I will just have to pour a shot glass of Jim Beam to sip along with my RY4 vape

Like they said in Animal House: "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son"

 

[Renolizzie]

Well, you tried Wabbit and now you know!