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The easy way to get started is with Wizard Labs in whatever ratio you choose. Most cartos from SI and other are more PG than VG that is why I choose 50% PG and 50% VG it seems to be a good compromise on flavor and vapor. You can buy it premixed with the nicotine level you choose, or (not recommended at first) buy your nicotine separate and mix it up yourself. You have seen me post that I buy mine 100% vg at double the nic, then mix in an equal amount of WallyMart PG to get my 50%/50% ratio of my proper nic level.
If you are just starting to experiment I suggest you order 120 ML of pre mixed at 50/50 PG/VG at whatever nic level you like. Consider this a plain base, no flavorings. Then choose some basic flavorings like strawberry, grape, root beer, watermellon, Blueberry, Cherry, Orange Cream, Apple, Dragon Fruit, Peach, Plum, Violet Candy, etc. These are basic vaping flavors. I started with flavors that are actually additives like Milk Chocolate, Caramel, Sweet Cream and Bavarian Cream. These alone do not vape well, but added to tobacco base, or waffle base, or cupcake base provide additional flavoring to the mix. Since the flavors from Wizard Labs are $1.49 each, you can experiment rather cheaply, but you will also need bottles, syringes or pipettes to measure properly. I hope you have better results than I have so far.
PS: Some of the flavorings are concentrated, some are not. Most are very strong, so if you are mixing say 3 or 5 ML batches to test, do not add too much flavoring at once, no more than 5% to start. You can always add more drops of flavor.
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Lunch break, LOL
I'm not advocating this for anyone else, but I buy my nicotine at 100mg in PG base then mix down to 10mg at a 60/40 ratio. No calculator needed, just use ScubaDans calculator from the DIY forum. I'm a little "detail oriented" so I printed out the results for the sizes of bottles I use for handy reference while mixing. As a side note, I just experimented with ethyl maltol for the first time in a new mix I'm fooling with and it did "mello" out the flavors without adding a lot of sweetness, at least to me.
I'm not advocating this for anyone else, but I buy my nicotine at 100mg in PG base then mix down to 10mg at a 60/40 ratio. No calculator needed, just use ScubaDans calculator from the DIY forum. I'm a little "detail oriented" so I printed out the results for the sizes of bottles I use for handy reference while mixing. As a side note, I just experimented with ethyl maltol for the first time in a new mix I'm fooling with and it did "mello" out the flavors without adding a lot of sweetness, at least to me.
I'm expecting an update when you get back from the physical therapistHope you get some info that will help.
I'm back from the physical therapist. First, I asked her if she thought I was progressing normally. She said I was, and she thought I had noticed the difference myself, which I have done. Then I told her that the doctor seemed to think I hadn't progressed enough, and he mentioned another operation to remove the plate. I said if the plate is getting in the way of my shoulder movement, maybe it should come out, but if I just need to work harder at the exercises, I didn't want another operation (of course). I suggested, and she agreed, that she should view the X-rays taken after the plate was put in and see if she can determine if the plate is getting in the way, or if the surgeon just wants things perfect, and taking the plate out would be better in his mind, even if it means me going through another surgery. I think surgery is a lot more routine to him than it is to me! Also, the physical therapist said she'd try to get me the name of a good doctor to get a 2nd opinion from. This evening, a physical therapist who specializes in hands and arms is going to be there, and she's sure he'll know someone. She assured me that my surgeon is considered the best. Bill brought up the question of, if the plate is getting in the way, did the doctor put it in wrong? I think if it's in the way, maybe that's how it had to be put in to hold the bone together. After all, the break was way up by the shoulder. If everyone thinks I should have another operation, I want to do it sooner rather than later, since why work on getting more flexible when it'll all be undone again after the additional surgery? I may as well start over now as do it months down the road. But she thought we could wait till March and see how I progress. The first thing, though, is for her to get copies of the X-rays taken after the operation so she can see how the plate is positioned.
Also, my back has hurt since the accident, which I mentioned while I was in the emergency ward that day, and they took an X-ray of my back and found out I have a compressed vertebra. The sore back was ignored in favor of the more urgent arm problem, but now that my arm feels better, I want to address it, so the other day, the doctor gave me a prescription for the physical therapist to work on my back. I think part of the problem may also be the twisted position I had to sleep in for months while the arm was healing. The doctor thought the compressed vertebra was an old injury, since the day after the accident, I took a walk around the neighborhood, about a mile, and he said I wouldn't have been able to do this if the injury was fresh. Still, it's been made worse since the accident -- either I wrenched it or it's hurting because I'm all out of alignment from sleeping the way I did -- or both. So Tuesday, when I go back to the physical therapist, she'll evaluate the back problem, now that she has the prescription.
So nothing was decided for now, but things have been put in motion.
I don't really know much about it, but it sounds to me as if the 50/50 mixture just saves you having to mix VG & PG 50/50, if that's the ratio you like. It sounds like a convenience to not have to mix it -- just add nic at the level you want and flavor at the level you want, and you're good to go.
Here are some more, just for you.
Nice photo.
You know, even though you don't want to go through physical therapy twice, as it were, I think it is a great plan you have and that gathering more info and seeing how much progress you make would be a sound plan. Physical therapy for your back is a good idea.
On a lighter note, I made 5 doz chocolate chip cookies. They didn't look "thick" enough so I thought I must have forgotten the last half cup of flour. I added more flour and forged ahead. Now I have 5 doz flat greasy cookies. I must have really messed up on measuring the flour.
At least the bread looks good so far.
Here's what I hope to do someday: spread my wings.
I'm sorry the cookies didn't turn out. I hope they tasted good, even if their consistency left something to be desired. How did the bread turn out?
Sandy, I think all surgeons think surgery is no big deal, after all it's not them getting sliced and diced! it never hurts them and they don't have to do rehab or PT and get paid to boot! Get that second opinion before any more slicing and dicing no matter how good the original surgeon may be.
I hurt my back about 35 years ago and still make regular visits to the chiropractor just to make sure everything stays put the way it's supposed to be. All I did was turn to put something down as I walked by a counter and sneezed. I went to the floor and had to crawl to the phone, very carefully, to get help (long before cell phones).
I hurt my back about 35 years ago and still make regular visits to the chiropractor just to make sure everything stays put the way it's supposed to be. All I did was turn to put something down as I walked by a counter and sneezed. I went to the floor and had to crawl to the phone, very carefully, to get help (long before cell phones).
Hey Lizzie, if those cookies don't seem like you'd like to eat them, I'll PM you my address!
Wizard Labs adds your favorite nic level at no additional cost. It costs just a much to order a 50/50 or 60/40 etc. mix of PG/VG without nic as it does at any nic level, so purchasing your own nic and adding it is not cost effective if you order from them.
That is so cool, KitKat.
The cookies were so bad that I choked down 5 of then with milk and decided to chuck the rest.
The cookies were so bad that I choked down 5 of then with milk and decided to chuck the rest.
The flavorings are exhaustive to look at! I ordered some choc chip mint juice to see if I like it. I'm slowly discovering what I like and don't like. So to figure out what I want for flavoring at this point is overwhelming! I have some sweet tart juice that is in the final steep from a vendor and I'm going to try that out. That might be my first experiment when I get the ingredients.
For my initial investment, I may go ahead and order the 50/50 mixture and add some pure PG/VG if needed. What I'm worried about is the nic content going way down on my mixtures. I have looked at some of the calculators so once I get everything together I'll have to find some good recipes. I've found a few sites that have some wonderful sounding ones, just not sure if it's what I'd want to vape. I really don't want to buy a bunch of flavors that I may or may not use.
Which brings me up to my next question - how long of a shelf life does this stuff have? (Nic, PG/VG, flavorings?)
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Smiling! Thank you Sandy! I hope you get some good news. It does sound like you've got the ball rolling in the right direction. I think the xray is the best start to see if the plate is shifted or in the wrong place!
Ditto! (The deer seemed to smile when eating them too!)
Yup - Awsum - well said.
I feel for anyone with back pain. I've no idea where mine started. Tumbling down the stairs @ 4; one of the million times bucked off a horse ; one of the 2 nursing home injuries? I just want to be able to do what needs doing in the house & MAYbe ride again. Oh, and be able to turn my head to see when driving. Unfortunately the chiropractor only helps a very limited amount & very short time.
The best results came from physical therapy (he specializes in myofacia tissue for chronic cases). I was doing so well til July when I lifted the power screet (sp?) when we redid a driveway.
If insurance covered massage that would help keep the cost down. This past year has been a fight with them even with a doctor's Rx. Physical work had been good in strengthening... Yesterday sure didn't help tripping & falling again tho! Call me Grace!
Awsum - you haven't said (that I saw) how the Jersey clean up is going. How are things looking "over there"? What about you? Are things somewhat back to normal in your area?
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Sounds like my DIY juices that I mix. Vape - Yuck, steep, Vape - Yuck, steep then dump.
Hey Wabbit! Are you saying you buy PG @ WallyWorld? Not VG? Just clarifying as our local pharmacy said they are not allowed to sell PG. Wondering if that's just Minnesota?
Also, the VG I found is quite thick. Read someplace on the web to mix it with distilled water. Do you do that? Only one "juice" I ordered @100% VG is as thick. The other 2 are not so much.
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Sorry no PG at Wally Mart only VG - My typing mistake
Last time folks I have posted this too many times: I order 100% PG at 24 nic from Wizard Labs, then add an equal amount of Humco Glycerine from Wally Mart to end up with a double amount of base at 50/50 PG/VG at 12% nicotine. Since 6 ounces of VG is only $3.00 in my area it seems to be a good easy, cheap mix.
In addition, when testing new DIY flavors, I use 100% VG no nic to see the taste. If it is OK, then I go to mixing it with my nic base.
Last time folks I have posted this too many times: I order 100% PG at 24 nic from Wizard Labs, then add an equal amount of Humco Glycerine from Wally Mart to end up with a double amount of base at 50/50 PG/VG at 12% nicotine. Since 6 ounces of VG is only $3.00 in my area it seems to be a good easy, cheap mix.
In addition, when testing new DIY flavors, I use 100% VG no nic to see the taste. If it is OK, then I go to mixing it with my nic base.
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Tail - have you seen the cookbook @ ecig express? Just add: . Com/cookbook to the name in the browser. Sorry, I haven't figured out how to copy /paste with this yet.
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