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JoAnnW

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OK, here's one for the DIY crowd, and I am a DIYer - just lazy I guess...What evidence is there that steeping a liquid is necessary for proper flavor? Is there any scientific evidence that steeping accomplishes anything at the chemical level? I understand that the ingredients need to be blended as with any mixture, but there is no bacterial or chemical activity that I can imagine going on in a liquid used for vaping. I know there may be answers out there somewhere, but I'm too lazy to look I guess.

From a subjective standpoint I have steeped liquids and did notice a flavor change. In that case I left the container vented to the ambient air in the room so some of the volatiles could escape which is an expected result called evaporation of liquids. Steeping in a sealed contained wouldn't allow that and hence my head scratching on this one.

I do browse the DIY threads but I'm asking here in Chit Chat because I trust the opinions and knowledge of everyone here.

One company that I get my liquids from make-to-order (Mr-e-liquid). They include a card for each flavor instructing how long to let it steep. One example, Pure Michigan. When it is delivered, it's crystal clear and you can faintly smell the blend which is apple and strawberry. The card reads to let it steep in a dark cool place for at least a week and also on that same card.. that the color will change to a deep golden color. This is a 33% vg custom blend. After that time period it smells heavenly and it is a slightly sweet tasting exactly like fresh apples and strawberries, no artificial taste. So... in that case... steeping serves a purpose. I get a lot of my liquids from them.
 

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Vert nice SandySu, I like the sweeping lines of that.
Here is a landscape that I did this fall then turned it into a collage of photos taken within 50 miles of my house.
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What's that rock in the collage, on the lower right? I want to see more of that! Great work, Butch.
 

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Well everybody, tomorrow it will be my 4 month anniversary being analog free. I go to the doctor tomorrow to get my test results. I'm hoping I get a good report so my cholesterol meds will be discontinued and my blood pressure meds will be reduced. After all this FDA stuff today, I hope my BP readings will still be low tomorrow.
 

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Vert nice SandySu, I like the sweeping lines of that.
Here is a landscape that I did this fall then turned it into a collage of photos taken within 50 miles of my house.
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Butch! This collage is great. You and SandySu are awesome photographers. I need this beauty overload right now. Thanks so much :)
 

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Good Evening DIYers,

I also find that steeping or letting juice mellow does affect the color and flavors. I think that some of the PG evaporates, leaving a mellow product. If the cap is left on, this probably will happen very slowly, but if the cap and little nipple is left off, PG will evaporate. Those of you who use 100% VG? Who knows? My problem is I I just can't wait, and so far my DIY is just OK. Nothing yet to beat the premixed flavors that I love.
 

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I guess everyone (with the exception of the pacific NW?) got a taste of this unseasonable warm weather. It's been in the upper 70's/lower 80's here in N FL for 3 days now, and expected to remain for the next 4-5 days.:blink:
So I went out and washed my vehicle this afternoon, and got wrapped up in fire ants.:evil: Those evil things are supposed to be dormant in the winter!!!
Luckily, I only got a few stings, as I do the "fire ant dance" very well indeed.:laugh:

Wow, right now I'd be happy to see 30 degrees. Denver is still in a deep-freeze. It's only been in the teens (for the high) for several days now. I'm freezing. Guess I'll meditate on warm beaches for awhile. :p



Great News Everybody! Smokeless Image is introducing the variable voltage X2 THIS WEEK!

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Imagine just posted it! :rickroll:

We had company all day yesterday, so I didn't make it to the SI forum. I was suspicious this was coming, but I've already ordered the iGo Revolver from Nhaler. :unsure: This model is 808-threaded, similar to the other spinners out there. The $32 kit included the battery, charger, rebuildable Vision clear, 3 replaceable heads. I'll most likely pick up another from SI if the price is right.


OK, here's one for the DIY crowd, and I am a DIYer - just lazy I guess...What evidence is there that steeping a liquid is necessary for proper flavor? Is there any scientific evidence that steeping accomplishes anything at the chemical level? I understand that the ingredients need to be blended as with any mixture, but there is no bacterial or chemical activity that I can imagine going on in a liquid used for vaping. I know there may be answers out there somewhere, but I'm too lazy to look I guess.

From a subjective standpoint I have steeped liquids and did notice a flavor change. In that case I left the container vented to the ambient air in the room so some of the volatiles could escape which is an expected result called evaporation of liquids. Steeping in a sealed contained wouldn't allow that and hence my head scratching on this one.

I do browse the DIY threads but I'm asking here in Chit Chat because I trust the opinions and knowledge of everyone here.

Lot of folks on the DIY threads use the terms "steep" and "age" interchangeable. I, however, don't think they necessarily mean the same thing. Fine wine, and fine whiskey, are aged. Tea is steeped. So I think understanding the lingo is part of the problem, at least for me.

Many tobacco flavors do require aging. I don't vape tobacco flavors (except for an occasional RY4), so it doesn't really affect me. I make mostly fruit and dessert vapes. I vape both kinds within 15 minutes or so (after several vigorous shakes).

The very first DIY batches I made were placed in a warm-water bath for 30 minutes. I skipped that for the next batches of the same flavors, and honestly I could not tell the difference.

The one tobacco-ish flavor I've made is RY4 with added caramel. I vaped it immediately; it was pretty good.

Maybe there are complex flavors that need aging? I don't know. The ones I don't like when fresh I tend to still not like when they're aged. So I'm just as baffled about it as you are.



Well everybody, tomorrow it will be my 4 month anniversary being analog free. I go to the doctor tomorrow to get my test results. I'm hoping I get a good report so my cholesterol meds will be discontinued and my blood pressure meds will be reduced. After all this FDA stuff today, I hope my BP readings will still be low tomorrow.

Big congratulations, JoAnn!!

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I haven't really said anything about the FDA stuff going on, because my views would be inflammatory. Suffice it to say that my 10+ years employed by a generic pharma company as a Regulatory Affairs technician taught me a lot about the industry and this agency in particular. And little of it was good.

Hope all you Volties are having a great day!


EDITED TO ADD: Butch, love your photos!! Please keep them coming. SandySu, you have some terrific photos posted over at Flickr; I really enjoyed them.
 
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Jacob, age 92, and Rebecca, age 89, living in Florida, are all excited about their decision to get married. They go for a stroll to discuss the wedding, and on the way they pass a drugstore. Jacob suggests they go in.

Jacob addresses the man behind the counter: "Are you the owner?"
The pharmacist answers "Yes."

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Jacob: "You sell wheelchairs and walkers?"
Pharmacist: "All speeds and sizes."

Jacob says to the pharmacist:
"We'd like to use this store as our Bridal Registry."

Good Night All
 

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Chili, too. I always make it the day before I plan on eating it.

Nightie-night, all. I have a date with my Kindle.

Yes, Chili. I knew there was something the rest of the country would understand. We do eat chili here, but gumbo is our go to cold weather food.
 
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