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Nope. For the most part, Dell lappys are right in line with everyone else's, but (IMO) when they hit it right they hit it better than anyone else (that is not custom).
Oh H311 no. But (again, IMO) there's nothing anyone can do to make a desktop "sleek." You can make them look nice, or even "d@mn pretty," but a box will never be sleek
I will agree with evaluation of the later alienware lines. This is certainly why, when I was finally able to afford one, that I never bought one. That and knowing I get close to the same performanve at thalf the price.
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When the Alienware laptops were worth the price they didn't even try to be sleek--they were getting the smallest desltop components they could, using laptop peripherals, and putting them in handmade fiberglass cases. That's why they cost more than twice anyone else's top of the line. By the time they were actually trying to be affordable it was exactly like you said--half the price you paid was for the chunk "alien" case and the guts were basically the same as a high-end Toshiba. Alienware wasn't worth it well before Dell bought them--that just guaranteed the brand would never regain it's previous reputation...
And afore you start a'thinkin' I'm a Dell fanboy, I'm just a fanboy of Dell's business end of most/some of the Lattitude line--I like the magnesium case and the sleek lines that retain their appeal (or lack of it) over time as I can only afford the out-of-warranty eBay off-lease or well-used sales.
That used to be a valid question, and the answer depended on what you wanted it for. But since Apple dropped the proprietary hardware (the only thing that really differentiated them), the question now is whether MS or Unix is better--OSX is just FreeBSD with a proprietary UI on it. I can load OSX on every machine I have here (including my little Asus netbook)--just like any post-intel Mac owner can load MS products natively.
The hardware is identical except for the physical design, now
One thing I've wondered is this boot camp thing. Does it cost money? If it does, why does anyone use it? Why not just dual-boot?
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I always thought they were rather plain. But I actually liked the Gremlin, so what do I know?
And no, the Gremlin was definitely not "sleek"
OMG! My first beater was a Gremlin! A hand me down when I started driving. I had to stop every hour and feed it oil.
lol, I have a friend in oklahoma who has one! Cracks me up but they treat it like a collector car.
A - Pwyll - Doh! I WAS tired! I meant Dell! Anyhow, Mac is better than Dell too.
B - Master - OMG. OMG. OMG. You just said what?!
I wish I could just transfer one, just one contraction or hell! Even one little ol' menstrual cramp to a man so they would understand and we could end this argument once and for all! Women endure pain. A lot of it! Just as bad as any man endures or worse. My personal theory actually has nothing to do with pain tolerance. I think that a lot of mommys baby their sons when they are sick and said sons never really outgrow that so wives are expected to become mommys during times of pain or sickness. Wives cannot expect to be babied because they are now in the mommy role and don't have that luxury. Unless they are lesbians which looks more attractive all the time!
Seriously though, my husband once had an ear infection - a bad one. His eardrum burst and he was bleeding from his ear. Do I think that hurt? Hell yes. But he lost all ability to function. He couldn't do anything but hunch over and moan. I've been in bad pain and I can still function, walk, talk, get things done like getting myself to the doctor etc. He couldn't do any of those things. I don't understand that I guess.
B - Master - OMG. OMG. OMG. You just said what?!
I wish I could just transfer one, just one contraction or hell! Even one little ol' menstrual cramp to a man so they would understand and we could end this argument once and for all! Women endure pain. A lot of it! Just as bad as any man endures or worse. My personal theory actually has nothing to do with pain tolerance. I think that a lot of mommys baby their sons when they are sick and said sons never really outgrow that so wives are expected to become mommys during times of pain or sickness. Wives cannot expect to be babied because they are now in the mommy role and don't have that luxury. Unless they are lesbians which looks more attractive all the time!
Seriously though, my husband once had an ear infection - a bad one. His eardrum burst and he was bleeding from his ear. Do I think that hurt? Hell yes. But he lost all ability to function. He couldn't do anything but hunch over and moan. I've been in bad pain and I can still function, walk, talk, get things done like getting myself to the doctor etc. He couldn't do any of those things. I don't understand that I guess.
Wow dude. Calm down. Everything said about mens pain vs womens has been said out of humor. Things we women "put up with". Are you seriously calling me a man hater? Why? Because I don't understand why SOME men go into baby mode when they are sick/hurt? I said earlier that women have a higher pain tolerance and that is why SOME men probably do react more strongly to pain. I honestly do not understand why you are so angry but you need to chill. I didn't say anything mean or hateful at all and most of what I said was in good humor. No sympathy? Please. We do take care of our husbands when they are sick. I took care of my husband for a week with that damned ear infection and never belittled him or accused him of not being able to take pain. I took him to the doctor, picked up his prescriptions, cooked for him etc, etc. Everything I could to make him feel better. As for childbirth, there is nothing a man can go through that can compare. And it is hell. Perhaps that is why women bring it up so much. They should get some credit for it.
Nobody is telling you you've never had pain. Yeah, pinched nerves suck. If you want to have a pain competition, I can throw some stuff out too.
BTW - you just said it is our (meaning women's) faults that you (men) whine because we wanted you to be more sensitive? And you had to listen to it one sided for thousands of years? If you want to get into the history and oppression of women by men, I'm all for it but that's a different conversation. Just know that what you said makes no sense and does nothing for your argument. You just said that what we are saying is true... you do whine... but it's our fault. Umm... okay.
And why the hell would I get banned for anything that I've said? I wouldn't which is why it didn't occur to me. Because I haven't said anything wrong. I've joked around with a couple of other women and some men. That's what this thread is for.
I'm sorry that you've taken issue with what I've said but you've blown it way out of proportion. I was joking around about the differences between men and women, generalizing for the sake of humor which is done all the time. Sheesh.
Nobody is telling you you've never had pain. Yeah, pinched nerves suck. If you want to have a pain competition, I can throw some stuff out too.
BTW - you just said it is our (meaning women's) faults that you (men) whine because we wanted you to be more sensitive? And you had to listen to it one sided for thousands of years? If you want to get into the history and oppression of women by men, I'm all for it but that's a different conversation. Just know that what you said makes no sense and does nothing for your argument. You just said that what we are saying is true... you do whine... but it's our fault. Umm... okay.
And why the hell would I get banned for anything that I've said? I wouldn't which is why it didn't occur to me. Because I haven't said anything wrong. I've joked around with a couple of other women and some men. That's what this thread is for.
I'm sorry that you've taken issue with what I've said but you've blown it way out of proportion. I was joking around about the differences between men and women, generalizing for the sake of humor which is done all the time. Sheesh.
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OK,I have to admit something to both of you.I have given birth 3 times.I had my eardrum blow out and it brought me crying to my knees,vomiting.It was the worst pain in my life.Much worse than when I broke my back.Different pain causes different things in different people.I would die if I had to go through the ear pain again.Let it go.We are all different and that's life.We deal with things differently(((Hugs to both!)))Be friends,life is short.
There is only one pain I have experienced that was comparable to childbirth, and men can get it to. That pain is the passing of a gallstone. I seriously thought I was going to die. The interesting thing about that, at least to me is that I had my first attack within hours of giving birth. It sucked, but it didn't feel nearly as bad as the second one I had a couple of years later. THAT was the one that felt like childbirth, but higher. My theory about that is that the first one didn't hurt as badly because I still had the endorphins from childbirth going and didn't for the second (or third or fourth). MOD, I think saying that we feel pain differently is a bit incorrect. Women's bodies produce different hormomones at different times, depending on where we are in our reproductive cycle. Our bodies expect the pain of childbirth, they know it's coming, so they prepare for it in MANY ways including pain relief. I suspect that we all feel other pains similarly, or at least individually based on each person, not gender. I think that men are more likely to expect that their spouse will take care of them when they are sick than "most" women. I also think it's important to be able to vent about annoyances in our lives without being reprimanded for it. I did not read what was going on as "man hating" as much as a little venting and some "I know how you feel" support. Maybe that's the real difference between the way that men and women deal with things differently. We like to commiserate among ourselves to reassure ourselves that we are not alone in our worlds. Men do that in their own way.
Very well said Daisy!
And Keyzy - you broke your back?! Damn! ((((Keyz)))) You've been through a lot!
IMO any valid point you were trying to make was lost when you posted the following
All I got to say is I wouldn't wish my pain on anyone and feel for anyone that's in pain
so my mom just went to my old house in marion and someone broke out all my windows and stole all my stuff. The fernace is even unhooked from the wall I'm getting very depressed
MOD - I have no idea why you thought you could be banned for this conversation in the chit-chat area. Thought you knew us well enough by now that you'd know otherwise.
Let's face it - not all pain is created equal regardless of which gender is the recipient.
Many men (and some women I've known) act like they are at death's door from the common cold. It gets old - fast.
Women throw childbirth out there because it's the most common among us. It takes 8lbs of properly placed pressure to break a bone and childbirth is well past that (I don't remember the psi of childbirth - I used to know but that was long ago) - being stabbed, or shot is not a common injury - most cannot related to that level of pain as thankfully there is no point of reference.
Of course sympathy and compassion for anyone (male or female) in pain - but leave the martyrdom at the door please.
Your point that no other man posted to your defense might have a different angle than the one you propose. Perhaps they all don't agree with you; or were interested in how much fun the conversation would be without anyone else fanning the flames.
You're taking this too seriously - IMO.
Let's face it - not all pain is created equal regardless of which gender is the recipient.
Many men (and some women I've known) act like they are at death's door from the common cold. It gets old - fast.
Women throw childbirth out there because it's the most common among us. It takes 8lbs of properly placed pressure to break a bone and childbirth is well past that (I don't remember the psi of childbirth - I used to know but that was long ago) - being stabbed, or shot is not a common injury - most cannot related to that level of pain as thankfully there is no point of reference.
Of course sympathy and compassion for anyone (male or female) in pain - but leave the martyrdom at the door please.
Your point that no other man posted to your defense might have a different angle than the one you propose. Perhaps they all don't agree with you; or were interested in how much fun the conversation would be without anyone else fanning the flames.
You're taking this too seriously - IMO.
so my mom just went to my old house in marion and someone broke out all my windows and stole all my stuff. The fernace is even unhooked from the wall I'm getting very depressed
Oh no! I'm so sorry this is happening to you!
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