cigarettes must be more addicting than ecigs
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Well since I've restarted vaping I've been hitting it more then I smoked, but I'm starting to slow down again.
I do get cravings when I'm under stress, but its part of the transition. I'm still happier to think "I need a vape" instead of needing a smoke, but I can go longer without really wanting to vape. To be honest I still don't feel like I need to vape only want to. It feels like something I enjoy. Compared to smoking where I felt like I needed to even though I hated it, I'll take wanting to vape compared to needling to smoke any day of the week.
I do get cravings when I'm under stress, but its part of the transition. I'm still happier to think "I need a vape" instead of needing a smoke, but I can go longer without really wanting to vape. To be honest I still don't feel like I need to vape only want to. It feels like something I enjoy. Compared to smoking where I felt like I needed to even though I hated it, I'll take wanting to vape compared to needling to smoke any day of the week.
I also vape more than I smoked, but on the rare occasions I can't vape for several hours, I don't have fits and kill people like when I had to go without a cigarette.
I agree. Now, for me, vaping is more like snacking. I can snack all day long without being hungry....just because there is good stuff to snack on in my house. But not be hungry at all. Only getting hungry a few times a day.
I vape all day because I can....at work, at home, in the car, in bed.....the list goes on.
I vape all day because I can....at work, at home, in the car, in bed.....the list goes on.
At some point in my day, I just gotta vape. I still get pretty foggy-headed and even a little impaired when I go without the nicotine for too long, but I do have to echo that I can go exponentially longer without a vape than I ever could a cig. I don't crave vaping like I did cigs. That much is certainly true. When I do get the desire to vape, it's not pressing. I can actually put it off. Sometimes I even forget to vape for hours after that. This was not even remotely the case with a cig. Forgetting my cigarettes and lighter was like forgetting my keys. I wasn't getting far without them!
I don't even vape early in the morning a lot of the time. I'll have my first vape of the day on my way to work or long after breakfast if I'm off. That is saying something coming from someone who used to be out on the porch, still bleary eyed and donning his sleep ensemble by the time he got through his second cig of the day. Similarly, I find that I don't need to vape before bed and generally don't. When I smoked, I couldn't fall asleep without having one. I'd fidget and roll around until I got up and smoked.
I've also lowered my nicotine levels by quite a lot. Initially, it took 24mg to keep me going. A week later, I was down to 18mg. For at least a month, I vaped 12mg. Last week, I dropped it to 10mg. Now, I vape 8mg. And here's the crazy part. I NEVER NOTICED A DIFFERENCE.
At this point, I think I could go a full day without nicotine without any issues. It would be the second day that I would be having problems with.
It has been an illuminating series of changes. I'll say that. Clearly, nicotine is not what I thought it was. It's a little more addicting than coffee for me at this point, but not by allll that much.
I don't even vape early in the morning a lot of the time. I'll have my first vape of the day on my way to work or long after breakfast if I'm off. That is saying something coming from someone who used to be out on the porch, still bleary eyed and donning his sleep ensemble by the time he got through his second cig of the day. Similarly, I find that I don't need to vape before bed and generally don't. When I smoked, I couldn't fall asleep without having one. I'd fidget and roll around until I got up and smoked.
I've also lowered my nicotine levels by quite a lot. Initially, it took 24mg to keep me going. A week later, I was down to 18mg. For at least a month, I vaped 12mg. Last week, I dropped it to 10mg. Now, I vape 8mg. And here's the crazy part. I NEVER NOTICED A DIFFERENCE.
At this point, I think I could go a full day without nicotine without any issues. It would be the second day that I would be having problems with.
It has been an illuminating series of changes. I'll say that. Clearly, nicotine is not what I thought it was. It's a little more addicting than coffee for me at this point, but not by allll that much.
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I second this. I wasn't a heavy smoker by any stretch of the imagination, but when I smoked I did so with gusto. Then I'd go the rest of the day or maybe a couple of days without smoking. Vaping? I can stop. Maybe because the guilt is gone.
there are times when i vape more often than i would smoke. part of that is because i vape in my home but went outside to smoke. i also think in the back of my.mind i know vaping isnt as dangerous as smoking. for the most part although i may vape more often at times, its not the amount as smoking a whole cigarette each time
its more the equivalent if taking a few hits off a smoke, put it out then ligjt it up again 5 or 10 min later. i would feel the need to smoke the whole cigarette because a couple hits wasnt enough. on the other hand if im watching a movie in my home or in a conversation on the phone i can go much longer without vaping. i was having to pause a movie every 30 minutes to go smoke (which caused alot of complaing from my family.
i know its not just the nicotine (its the act of vaping specifically) other wise nic patches or gum would have worked in quitting a while ago.
i still couldnt go all day without it otherwise there wouldnt be any need to have nicotine in the juice. its definately addictive. i just think at least for me its not the most addictive substance in a cigarette.
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I smoked three packs a day and its just under a month since I quit smoking I'm still having a hard time!
so there is hope for hubbie? LOL started ryo for him a few months ago. and last week he asked me to order him a setup like mine(egos with ce5) it came in the mail Saturday and he SAYS he uses it at work, lets see if he brings it home this weekend LOL
what is RYO?
my hubby is having a difficult time also. he started vaping 2 wks befoe me. he was doing well at first. he was down to just a few smokes a day while vaping during the first 3 wks (i quit cold with no prob). now hes back to 1+ packs a day without using the ecig at all. he had been very vague about why. just kinda ignores me when i talk to him about it... shrugs his shoulders. any suggestions i make about increasing nic levels or changing juice flavors just go unanswered.
im at a loss of what to do because he really needs to quit. hes been in congestive heart failure for almost 2 yrs, enlarged heart, pulminary edema, obstructive sleep, apnea.
my hubby is having a difficult time also. he started vaping 2 wks befoe me. he was doing well at first. he was down to just a few smokes a day while vaping during the first 3 wks (i quit cold with no prob). now hes back to 1+ packs a day without using the ecig at all. he had been very vague about why. just kinda ignores me when i talk to him about it... shrugs his shoulders. any suggestions i make about increasing nic levels or changing juice flavors just go unanswered.
im at a loss of what to do because he really needs to quit. hes been in congestive heart failure for almost 2 yrs, enlarged heart, pulminary edema, obstructive sleep, apnea.
RYO is Roll Your Own
If he doesn't want to quit there's nothing you can do all you will end up doing is piss him off.
im definately not making a big deal about it to him cuz i dont want him to feel like im trying to force him or make him think im any better than him because it was easy for me and it should be for him. just thought id see what changes other people might have made that made a difference for them.
this isnt an issue of just wanting to quit or not. he was close to dying a yr ago because of the pulminary edema (he couldnt walk from the house to the car without having to sit and catch his breath). cardiac surgeon said the only thing that saved his life was the cpap machine. the smoking directly contributes to the fluid in his lungs. hes told me over and over he wants to quit. im just trying to come up with a few suggestions of changes he could make to get him back on track.
this isnt an issue of just wanting to quit or not. he was close to dying a yr ago because of the pulminary edema (he couldnt walk from the house to the car without having to sit and catch his breath). cardiac surgeon said the only thing that saved his life was the cpap machine. the smoking directly contributes to the fluid in his lungs. hes told me over and over he wants to quit. im just trying to come up with a few suggestions of changes he could make to get him back on track.
my love of vaping was the first vape, not like most.The rest of not smoking is why I wil make this post.My finger and toe nails are now all white with no lines in them.That really shocked me as a part time smoker/vapor, it took about six months but the weird rings on my nails have been gone for three years.If an addiction can make me not see the death its causing in my body for 20 plus years as to the one I have now thats hardcore in my mind.When I slowly take a vape and think of flavor not a chain that needs to be not unbroken, it makes me grin.
I do that too!! For me, it's sort of my obsession, romancing of the APV itself. And when I have new device I'm using (new carto tank, new atomizer, new APV, new whatever) I go a bit crazy. Like when I got my Vmod recently...I couldn't leave it alone. I had trouble at first (user error...but I didn't know WHAT user error) and refused to be defeated and kept trying. Even if it was the middle of the night! When things settled down and I "got" it, I was so excited I had to "prove" I got it over and over and over again! Sheesh!!
I vape 3.5mg now full time. So I'm not worried about overdoing it, really. Anxiety and actual nicotine cravings are history. My addiction now is simply VAPING...and everything about it.
congrats and salute,make it about the vape, for 6 months all I vaped was 0 mg from tasty vapor , mint choc chip, nothing wrong with a good addiction, blast it !
Hi CaliGirl !
Cigarette addiction sucks !!!
I know- 40+ year, PAD+ Marlboro Red man...
I tried, and tried...and tried and tried to quit...never could.
I gave up. I was going to die a smoker -and that was all there was to it.
Was breaking my wife's heart...and she didn't even know the half of it.
The heavy legs, pain in my feet and arms, fingers...wheezing lungs...
Addicted...could not stop, as much as I wanted to.
Vaping saved me ! It gave me a few more years to live life and share with her.
Now, for your honey...
He need strong nic...24mg or better.
He needs vape gear that will produce CLOUDS of vapor...all the time.
He needs to vape, and vape and vape. First thing AM, before and after meals, in the car, at work, and expecilly in the evenings.
VAPE, VAPE, AND VAPE SOME MORE !
You need to vape long before you think you need to. He must keep his Nicotene level up.
In Vaping- you are training the brain that if it allows you to give it the nic that needs via Vaping...that you will in no way deprive it of the nic that it needs- you will give it before the brain says...' Nic Fit !!!- I need nic, light one up...nic level is getting low'.
Give it nic-BEFORE- it needs it....before 'it asks' and the brain will have nothing to complain about !
So- Clouds of vapor , Vaping often, keeping the nic level on high...and plenty of Water !
It's the right juice, right gear- used correctly and retraining the brain....that is how you can beat the tobacco addiction !
It also helps to drink PLENTY of water...like all the time.
The PG/VG drys you out...so really..you will want to drink- but you also want to flush the toxins out of your system.
That will go a long was toward making the Vaping transition easier too. So drink an abundance of water.
Best To You Both !
If that ever bugs you, perhaps try making some strong (36mg/mL-45mg/mL) liquid (if you DIY at all). I think sometimes what keeps me chain-vaping is that I'm getting the nicotine so slowly that I don't reach that point of satisfaction. With analogs I'd usually not want the last few drags because it was "enough". A strong-as-heck juice does that for me. When I don't or can't vape all the time, it's nice to have something that really, truly leaves me not wanting some for a while.
Well without getting all science-y...I have a personal story. The other day my father came in from out of town. He quit smoking four years ago with the chantix (it worked for him without too many side effects) and his third wife never smoked. Granted I didn't vape while eating out with them, but at some other fun time functions...I went without having a "nicotine fit" for about 3 hours. Stealth vaping was not an option--fortunately after smelling my liquid they decided the odor wasn't offensive. As in my father said that if smelled faintly of soda, and his wife could not even smell it.
I couldn't do longer than 30 minutes while smoking.
Also I noticed that the "nicotine fit" was much different too. When I smoked it was a "I must have a smoke or I'm going to go insane" type of feeling. With vaping, I didn't have the "edge of sanity" feeling when I started having nicotine withdrawals. It was more along the lines of "vape at first opportunity".
I couldn't do longer than 30 minutes while smoking.
Also I noticed that the "nicotine fit" was much different too. When I smoked it was a "I must have a smoke or I'm going to go insane" type of feeling. With vaping, I didn't have the "edge of sanity" feeling when I started having nicotine withdrawals. It was more along the lines of "vape at first opportunity".
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