"clearomizer" round up for 808s...

[skelley]

I used the small 'doughnut' seal from my older CE2's after I trim the small inner lip off with cuticle scissors as it helps center the cup in the tube. I trim it in case the coil isn't centered and it prevents that rubber taste.

I use open flame to get the coil out of the CE3's ceramic cup. This also helps clean the gunk under the coil and the wicks turn nice and white. They also fluff up nicely and when they cool, I wash the ash off again; reassemble; dry burn and fill.

Since I was having wicking issues with the supreme's, I thought I would expose them to open flame and hopefully burn off any oils or anything that may be interfering with them wicking. They didn't fluff up like any of my other wicks did and they also didn't turn white. Some even turned completely black and it didn't come off with a tissue. I was going to try to clean them in PGA, but just put them up. I may dig them up and try cleaning to see if the black/soot looking stuff cleans up or stays.

 

[Voltron]

Hello everyone. I finally received my CE2 Ultimates today, and have a very stupid question :

How does one fill these things? I used a syringe through the small opening on the side, but i'm not sure if it should be done through the center or another way. It doesn't bring instructions, so i'm kinda clueless right now.

Please help me out...

 

[CloveHunter]

How does one fill these things? I used a syringe through the small opening on the side, but i'm not sure if it should be done through the center or another way. It doesn't bring instructions, so i'm kinda clueless right now.

Your method is right. Just wait some minutes for the wick to get all wet through the coil.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Guys:

Yes they are bottom coils. I've been hitting it intermittently through the night (on a Riva 510 manual) and same story. If I toke once every 5 minutes, there is less dry burn, but its still there. I do see bubbles. If I vape as usual, forget about it. Dry.

Skelley:

I had wicking issues, so I figured I would dismantle and burn the wicks over open flame.
The wicks didn't clean and fluff up like all my other CE2 wicks and they got black/soot looking streaks in them

Seriously! I'm so glad you said this. I was like "WTF!?" I just kept burning for a LONG time and figured I had started with them too wet (never a problem before) and it did improve, but I didn't get pristine white as usual. I'm going to ask bad about this. They don't seem any more brittle than usual though. Silica always seems brittle to me.

WRT to the 'primer puffs' what does this mean in the context of a manual? Please excuse my ignorance

I did fill inverted, and did leave space. Meh. I read about a mod where you open up the metal holes a bit. ::sigh:: more modding. Kind of bummed on these so far. And yes I am a top coil man LOL

In other news I got my stainless steel mesh in, oxidized, rolled, and ...crap. lol. I can't get a stable electrical flow going, resistance all over the place, weak vape, but the good news is, I don't taste any metal. Perhaps three burns and three dunks isn't enough, I'll try again in the am. I'm also running out of hypodermic tubing, back to soldering for now.

 

[Voltron]

Your method is right. Just wait some minutes for the wick to get all wet through the coil.

Thanks Clove, now I have another question...I'm getting some sort of rubber/plastic flavor on the initial drags, is this normal?

 

[skelley]

It's all good Voltron, there's no such thing as a stupid question.
With my CE2's, I use a metal dental pick and remove both seals. Gently push the tube over and fill from the bottle or use my syringe every since I had a bottle top pop off and lost 25+ ml of juice.
It's just how I do it, but whatever works best for you.

As you know, many of us like to modify the seals differently also. You could try them as they are and if you get any issues, you could do one of many methods.

How do you like them so far?

 

[Voltron]

It's all good Voltron, there's no such thing as a stupid question.
With my CE2's, I use a metal dental pick and remove both seals. Gently push the tube over and fill from the bottle or use my syringe every since I had a bottle top pop off and lost 25+ ml of juice.
It's just how I do it, but whatever works best for you.

As you know, many of us like to modify the seals differently also. You could try them as they are and if you get any issues, you could do one of many methods.

How do you like them so far?

I'm actually getting some nasty flavor. I noticed there was some clear liquid inside before filling, perhaps this is responsible for that. I've only taken like a dozen drags, so hopefully it improves.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Give it time voltron, these improve with each fill. They are primed with VG (so they say) but its the nastiest tasting VG I've ever had LOL

You can avoid this entirely by rinsing/drying and or dry burning before you start. Or just don't inhale the first ten hits or so.

My first one I opened from this recent batch had the characteristic undercurrent of a weird taste through the first fill. Second fill almost gone. now I have it in a syringe tank and its wicking 80% unthinned VG like a beast and all I taste is slamming 555/virginia flue cured

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Skelley I just took a few hard sucks without hitting the button, and then hit it, and bam there is the flavor. And then I hit again, and its gone lol.

I can see bubbles when I draw air without hitting the button, and it startes to gurgle too. But not leak at least....

 

[skelley]

I'm on fill up #3 on the CE3 right now and no issues so far except the initial start up.
Primer puffs for me are just a few drags without pushing the batt. button. It just helps get these things started it seems. I don't know for sure if it helps prime the wick or some type of pressure/vacuum thing going on in the tube, but it seems to work for the initial start.
Yeah, CE3's are a dryer/cooler vape and it's in my arsenal for that reason. I still need my CE2's for ripping some serious heat and deal with the occasional juice in the mouth. For those that don't like a lot of heat or juice mouth, these new CE3's might be for you.
YMMV, but for me:
Pros:
Dryer/cooler vape
No juice mouth
No leak issues (when filled properly)
I get slightly better flavor as the juice doesn't have to wick 'up', therefore it takes more refills before the juice gets thicker/darker.

Cons:
If you don't like filling with a syringe, it's not for you.
and if you have any issues with the 'my' pros
*save spot in case I forgot anything...lol*

I think there is a learning curve with filling/using. I usually keep a couple CE3's mixed in with my many CE2's

 

[skelley]

How many fill ups are on it?
It takes 1-2 for the flavor to show up.
I think I have had 1 bad one out of 10 that gave dry hits no matter what. That was the one where the coi/wick wasn't centered. I wish I centered it, but it was sacrificed for the cause.

 

[skelley]

Thanks Clove, now I have another question...I'm getting some sort of rubber/plastic flavor on the initial drags, is this normal?

One mod I do is:
I flip the seals after trimming if the rubbery tasted doesn't go away.

I used the small 'doughnut' seal from my older CE2's after I trim the small inner lip off with cuticle scissors as it helps center the cup in the tube. I trim it in case the coil isn't centered and it prevents that rubber taste.

 

[Voltron]

Give it time voltron, these improve with each fill. They are primed with VG (so they say) but its the nastiest tasting VG I've ever had LOL

You can avoid this entirely by rinsing/drying and or dry burning before you start. Or just don't inhale the first ten hits or so.

My first one I opened from this recent batch had the characteristic undercurrent of a weird taste through the first fill. Second fill almost gone. now I have it in a syringe tank and its wicking 80% unthinned VG like a beast and all I taste is slamming 555/virginia flue cured

Thanks for the tips Cyrus. I guess I'll try the rinsing and drying mehod with the next one; these primer fluid puffs are kiling me right now. That VG sure tastes and smells like plastic crap

 

[CloveHunter]

Thanks for the tips Cyrus. I guess I'll try the rinsing and drying mehod with the next one; these primer fluid puffs are kiling me right now. That VG sure tastes and smells like plastic crap

You could try it with the current one that taste like plastic crap too. One thing I like about CE2 is the ability to take it apart, clean it, mod it (if necessary) and try it again - as long as the coil & wick are intact, you are good to rinse & repeat.

 

[Charlz]

I'm also running out of hypodermic tubing, back to soldering for now.

eh....didn't you get several feet of this stuff? That's one heck of a learning curve. LOL!

 

[Charlz]

That's too bad on the phoenix's. The suction issue I referred to as one of the reasons I don't like them. They fixed the leakiness, they made the coil accessible for cleaning but I'm still glad I finally had the self control to hold out on a version one of something.

 

[Voltron]

Unfortunately, this first fluxo has me sorely disappointed. I've gone through 3 refills and although it has faded a little, I can't shake the plastic taste and smell. By comparison, my first experience with the Volt CE4's was much better; no bad flavor at all on those ones.

Hopefully it's just a bad one and the next one I try tastes differently. Righ now I wanna smash this one on the floor and stomp on it

 

[Cyrus Vap]

So after a few exchanges with bad I was linked to some videos and learned a bit

The primer puffs work and so does giving the tube a bit of a squeeze. If you watch, both result in the bubble coming out of the wick holes. The negative pressure causes air to flow out of the wick area and juice to flow in

The instruction card warns against filling past the top of the wick cup (metal) but this makes wicking worse. If there is any air in there after a fill you're more prone to having wicking issues. Bad and others say to fill all the way.

So on the initial one, I have been doing random squeezes or primer puffs (thank you skelley) and its hitting like a beast, but still not perfect. But when it does hit, the flavor is unreal. Maybe even better than a fluxo. Yes its cooler, but a bit more balanced. Too early to decide.

I took one apart and poked around, pretty cool and simple design. I think I see wires poking around the thread holes and inner rim/gasket junction on the bottom, but heck its too soon to start playing with those

I refilled that one all the way, and much better. No dry hits till my 6th hit in a row. Weakish vapor.

I sucked out the juice, and this time refilled to the point of a tiny leak through the batt connector. Wiped it up and starting vaping. I took 10 massive hits before I got a dry one, much better. Still likely not perfect, but closer

Yes charlz there is a learning curve Of course some of the tubing is tied up in fluxos, more than I'd like to admit is in pieces and invisible on the floor as I'm a little dumbz with my work area (handing/cutting free hand with something that fine and slim over a dark carpet...once it drops, its probably gone lol...). They are also brittle, so until you get your lengths and bends accurate and precise, you'll likely have rebending and adjustment that will lead to them snapping. Keep in mind I essentially learned how to solder over a few weeks with this stainless steel, which is virtually impossible to solder without copper wrapping or some comparable metal to soak up the solder. The steel won't do it on its own. So that contributed to a significant amount of destruction.

To avoid the snaps the OP in repairable CE2 switched to safety pins + boring out the ceramic cup holes (need a diamond tip dremel bit). It works great, but I'd rather not. Also safety pins can be made from various things, most likely not vaping safe. And they rarely advertise.

I have some new wires coming in: 24 gauge and 27 gauge hypodermic tubing; 30 gauge .999 dead soft silver wire, 24 gauge argentium half hard silver wire, and 24 gauge .999 dead soft silver wire. Going to try and perfect the method.

The stuff is all pretty dirt cheap. The silver and some other goodies can be found here:

Twisted Jewels

 

[skelley]

Mod it Voltron.
I personally like to remove both seals; use a dental pick to gently lift and seperate (fluff) the wicks; trim the inner lip off the small seal; install small seal outer lip down (this helps keep the ceramic cup centered) and install the large one. I like having the small void as any condensation can collect there and flow back onto the coil rather than stick to the bottom of the drip tip and eventually get sucked up.
Total mod time, less than 5 min. I've done it so many times, I can do it in seconds...lol.

Thanks for the info Cyrus, but for some reason filling all the way gives me dry hits. Once it gets that 1/8"-3/16" gap the dry hits go away.....hmmm.

 

[Charlz]

Good stuff, Cyrus. Grab a flashlight and reclaim all those shiny happy pieces. With all your experience now, you could probably make a flashlight yourself. It's basically the same technology, right?