I'm a 4-week vaper and want to upgrade because I am tired of getting dry hits and constantly dripping during inconvenient times. I want flavor on every hit (or the vast majority of them anyway). I'm getting the eGO Twist VV battery and want to know a good tank/clearomizer to attach to it. What all do I need? I'm a noob so be gentle. Thanks Ed
Clearomizer Suggestions Please
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Me again... I use the Kanger T2s and have had great luck with them. Lots of folks here seem to like the stardust clearos but I have never liked them. I know ivape sells the T2s under the name sunfire. Very good prices too!
Hey again. Are the Stardust clearos also called Visions? I'll look up that Kanger T2. Man, a zillion names for the same thing. That's as bad as driving in North Carolina where the name of the road changes every three miles even though you never made a turn. And then to make it worse, they don't have any road signs to know what the name of the road you're on.
I just got a mini vivi nova for my twist and I love it. The thing looks great on it. I love the no leak easy fill that the vivi has. I just ordered 4 more so I have them.
I'm about as new as you too. I like my star dusts, but my vivi nova is absolutely fantastic on my ego twists.
Stardusts - Ok, but inconsistent. ViVi Nova same thing, but I've used the version 2 with the short stubby wicks. I hear good things about the 2.5 version and the new Mini ViviNova at GotVapes and plan to give them a try. A big fan of the Kanger T2. It's the Stardust if the Stardust (aka Vision Ego Clearomizer) actually worked right, at least for me. A few places have them. I believe discountvapors.com is one of them. Not into cartos so can't say much about them or the carto tanks. Personally, after all the stuff I've tried, there's nothing better than finding a good atty. when all else fails, it keeps me from going insane and nothing else can make your juice flavors sing like a dripping atty. pain in the rear? Yup, it's not "put in your pocket and vape all day" convenient. Keep a few good ones around, though. Sooner or later you'll be crawling back to them and as your taste buds come back to life, you'll want to taste your juice more than you may now.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Ha, you must have been in Charlotte recently and at the corner of Queens, Providence, and Queens and Providence. Or maybe Charlotte Rt 4 AKA Billy Graham, Woodlawn, Runnymeade, Wendover, Eastway and so on.
I would echo the T2. Haven't tried everyting but it is the best I have tried and by a long shot. Don't forget to order a pack of heads to go with them. They last 2-3 weeks.
Edit -I like my Vivi Nova too but find the T2 a little smoother. Not quite as much heat or throat hit.
Hey Fellas, how long do these clearomizer gizmos last? How many times can you fill them before they go belly-up? And what are the heads for? Can't I just screw that clearomizer right on my eGO Twist? Geez, with all the crap you got to screw on this thing it starts looking like a totem pole. Remember, I'm an e-cig ignoramus (among other topics) so go easy on me.
By the way, I burn a lot of Johnson Creek VG. Thick stuff they tell me.
By the way, I burn a lot of Johnson Creek VG. Thick stuff they tell me.
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+1 on mini vivi nova. Its a must try.
Mini ViVi Nova, Mini ViVi Nova Tank Clearomizer , Mini ViVi Nova Cartomizer theres the mini vivi .. Theres a link to click for new heads. The tank its self will last you a loong time, and the individual heads last about 3weeks-1month for me. Head replacements are 2.49 there and thats all youll have to replace eventually.
Vision MINI Nova, replace your coil head, change your tubes, easy to clean and works great - YouTube - HowTo video for mini vivi.
Mini ViVi Nova, Mini ViVi Nova Tank Clearomizer , Mini ViVi Nova Cartomizer theres the mini vivi .. Theres a link to click for new heads. The tank its self will last you a loong time, and the individual heads last about 3weeks-1month for me. Head replacements are 2.49 there and thats all youll have to replace eventually.
Vision MINI Nova, replace your coil head, change your tubes, easy to clean and works great - YouTube - HowTo video for mini vivi.
Vivi Nova 2.5 or Vivi mini.
"Okay but inconsistent"? It's the most consistent thing out there. I have 2 of each -- rewicked with cotton heads. No leaking--EVER. No clearo can say that. I never have dry hits. It mutes juice flavor a bit like wick devices do which is the only thing stopping it from being flawless. Get some cotton and Kanthal and learn to wick it, you have a 0$/week upkeep product. Let me repeat that:0$/week. Even before I rewicked, I went almost two weeks cleaning heads without throwing anything away. I bought 200' Kanthal for $20 and a giant ball of cotton for $3--that's like several years supply of heads. And gotvapes has the cool collars for both for the Twist. Ego twist+chrome collar+vivi mini=super suave.
Nova hands down. When your Kanger pees in your suit pocket during your job interview, you'll wish you had the Nova.
"Okay but inconsistent"? It's the most consistent thing out there. I have 2 of each -- rewicked with cotton heads. No leaking--EVER. No clearo can say that. I never have dry hits. It mutes juice flavor a bit like wick devices do which is the only thing stopping it from being flawless. Get some cotton and Kanthal and learn to wick it, you have a 0$/week upkeep product. Let me repeat that:0$/week. Even before I rewicked, I went almost two weeks cleaning heads without throwing anything away. I bought 200' Kanthal for $20 and a giant ball of cotton for $3--that's like several years supply of heads. And gotvapes has the cool collars for both for the Twist. Ego twist+chrome collar+vivi mini=super suave.
Nova hands down. When your Kanger pees in your suit pocket during your job interview, you'll wish you had the Nova.
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I like stardusts. I don't have the problems with them like others do. I have only burnt out 1, got 2 months out of it.
We're here to help out Edana, but let me take a pause for the cause to respond to you with regards to the stardusts/Novas.
First of all (and you might find this odd), I think you're absolutely right on everything you said, even your observation on the leakiness of the Kanger. And I have re-coiled/re-wicked the Novas and love them after I do. I also own a GG Penelope which is the best vape I've had, short of a great atty (flavor-wise). And yes, the T2 does tend to leak. Not a ton, but I wouldn't recommend putting it in your pocket or bag without something to absorb any leaking.
BUT, the point here is that Edana is fairly new to the vaping game as I gathered from Ed's first or second post on the forum a few days ago. Knowing that, I can't recommend something that I, personally, have found frustrating to use and that, as we both agree, works really well only after some advanced tinkering that you and I as experienced Vapers have learned to do. What I'd prefer to suggest is something that by and large works "out of the box" for the best possible throat hit, flavor and vapor (for a clearo) that a relatively noob (no offense meant, Edana) can use. In my opinion (and that's all it is) the Kanger T2 outperforms the Stardust/Nova "out of the box" in every respect. You're absolutely right in pointing out the potential leaking issue and it's up to Edana to see if that's a huge factor (I don't and some T2s I've bought don't leak at all) but I stand by my recommendation. I'm sure others will veer completely off the Stardust/Kanger/Nova track and recommend other good clearos and that's all the better for Ed to form an opinion on what to buy.
If and when Edana decides to take it up a notch, I'll be there with you in supporting a move to re-coiling/re-wicking/re-building everything in sight for the best vape experience. Hope you get what I'm saying and thanks for pointing out the leak issue.
And, Ed, do consider the fact that I purchased the earlier versions of the Stardusts and Nova so the issues I may have had "out of the box" may have been resolved in the newer versions (like the 2.5 from GotVapes.com). My ultimate recommendation is to buy one of each, if you can afford it (they're not overly expensive) and take them for a test drive with your favorite juice to see how they stack up. I've got my money on the T2, but that just me ;-)
I personally like the taste of the boge cartomizers the best. If you get the xxl's you can fit about 1 1/2 mls in them. Condom fill the first time and then, just top them off! I get a lot of use out of mine. Dripping will give you the best flavor, but that can be a pain, unless you get into the rebuildable atty's, which are advanced....
You may have a little trouble with them as you are using high vg juice! I would say to wait for one of the fabulous labor day sales and pick up a few inexpensive devices. If you use 3.7 volt devies like ego's, you are going to want something that is a lower resistance to get the best performance out of them. 2.0 ohms or under would be best. Some places will sell them with just the lower ohm heads.
Also, check out you tube videos. There are a lot of them that compare the different ones. There are so many, they can make your head spin! Then, more of them come out every week, from different manufacturers and then different vendors will call them different things! I say, try different things and play around, have some fun and see what works best for you!
You may have a little trouble with them as you are using high vg juice! I would say to wait for one of the fabulous labor day sales and pick up a few inexpensive devices. If you use 3.7 volt devies like ego's, you are going to want something that is a lower resistance to get the best performance out of them. 2.0 ohms or under would be best. Some places will sell them with just the lower ohm heads.
Also, check out you tube videos. There are a lot of them that compare the different ones. There are so many, they can make your head spin! Then, more of them come out every week, from different manufacturers and then different vendors will call them different things! I say, try different things and play around, have some fun and see what works best for you!
Thanks for the help Dom...good info. I went to the Altsmoke website and they sell T2 clearos. I'm assuming that's the same as the Kanger T2??? I can't grasp all these names for seemingly the same freaking thing. Yes, I agree, got to go easy on the newbies like me. I can deal with the potential leak problem as I am relatively careful with stuff like that. And while I am a newbie, I am an engineer so I can adjust to new contraptions fairly quickly. At the same time, I do like things simple. As it stands now, I am leaning toward the eGO VV Twist with the T2 clearo. Help me though...what ohm level should I get? I burn Johnson Creek and from what I have learned, JC is a rather thick juice. Any suggestions?
lol on your road names. We have a lot of that here in Tx too. Also when we give directions, it's.... turn left where the old firehouse used to be,....go down the road a "piece" and take a right at the tree that jimmy smashed his pick up into last year.... lol
vision is the manufacturer that first released the vivi nova, stardust etc. Gotvapes often is working very closely with the manufacturers and they often help develop particular products and they give them their own names. So this animal GotVapes VISION Replaceable Stardust 1.6ml w/ 2.4ohm Long Wick [gv-RebuildableSTARDUST-1.6ml-2.4] - $6.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more is technically a Vision Ego (ego is the connector type meaning that where it actually attaches to the battery is recessed and you need an ego connector or adapter on your battery). So...vision ego ce4 clearomizer is the actual name. Gotvapes named it the stardust and most of gotvapes names for things catch on and other folks call em that also. Then to add even more confusion... other companies make knockoffs of one companies products....so you have other manufacturers making a ce4 but it's not a vision ce4..... which is often why people have very very different experiences with what they think is the same product. But it's not the same product at all. Then to make it more confusing......they keep improving each product so you end up with 4 or 5 revisions of said product. Thus.......vision vivi nova 2.5 which is the good one! lol not all vivi novas are made by vision and the ones that aren't, aren't getting good reviews. The ones that are, are loved a lot by most folks. I would highly recommend either vivi nova or mini vivi from gotvapes. (I'll pay a dollar or two more to make sure I'm getting the right thing, and I'm poor) lol I am also now waiting for something that finally dropped yesterday called the Raven. I am hoping this will put me in vaper's paradise!!
I've been using my vivi nova for a couple months now with the same 3 heads it came with, and the one I've used most is the 1.8 head and it's still going. Super easy to clean and dry burn. Dry burn is essential for removing gunk from the coils. I really don't know how well the vivi would work with your juice, but the raven, should work with any thickness, because it's a bottom coil, very easy to use. Unlike snus, I can't stand filler type cartos. This is a carto in a tank, but the carto is like a ce3 phoenix only you don't need a syringe to fill it, but basically it's hollow I think. And since the coils are at the bottom where all the juice is, you don't have wicking issues, and you don't have to the tippy, twirly, thing like you do with top coils.
I would suggest going to GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more and just browse through the cartomizer and tanks links on the left hand side. On pretty much all of em, you'll find videos at the bottom of each particular products page done by Chris/badkolo one of the owners of gotvapes. That will give you tons of information. Be sure to check out the raven.
oh, and I meant to say.......I haven't tried the kanger t2 because of the leaking issues, and because it's my understanding that it uses the old plastic that will crack and cloud with some types of juices. Some folks are really happy with them, but that's a deal breaker for me.
I basically use all glass pyrex tanks with cartos, but I tried this SMOKteck Screw Tank and it is the best wick clearo I have tried. It is a whopper tho at 6 ml tank size but it is so consistent, I was amazed and I have had plenty of clearos fail me. Depending on what resistance you get LR use low Volts, SR you can use higher volts. Fill it in morning and vape all day. I got mine at MyVaporStore but Got Vapes also has them under SMOKteck Titan. This is the only clearo I like. bnrk
edit: This is a polypropylene tank, will not crack from juice! That was the only reason I even tried it, I will never buy polycarbonate, they all crack and leak in time.
edit: This is a polypropylene tank, will not crack from juice! That was the only reason I even tried it, I will never buy polycarbonate, they all crack and leak in time.
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Debadoo...excellent info. I just went through your replies quickly because I have 5 pound weights hanging off my eyelids and if I don't go to bed I'm gonna end up in this lumpy chair all night. So I will go over your stuff in more detail tomorrow. I am anxious to order my first clearo but I blocked my credit card because I temporarily lost my wallet and they wont unblock it...they send a new card with a new acct number and it takes a week. So I can't order until later this week anyway. Thanks again. I sincerely appreciate your well-thought analysis. BTW, I'm leaning toward the eGO Twist with the variable voltage feature. I burn lots of Johnson Creek juice which many say is thick stuff. What Ohm resistance should I get on the clearo?
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lol on the 5 lb weights. Hope the long winded one makes sense in the morning, if not just ask what you still don't get and we'll try to help. But I really think since you have time if you just take a tour of Gv, look at the products and watch the videos it'll make more sense also.
bnrk, if the ravens don't put me in vaper's paradise, the titan is the next thing I'll try. I've heard so many folks say they like it. I really do like the cooler vape of a bottom coil, and that's a top coil. Oh, and Danno said that they got Smok to officially rename it to the Titan, for obvious reasons! lol oh those silly chinese. or maybe it's us silly Americans. lol
bnrk, if the ravens don't put me in vaper's paradise, the titan is the next thing I'll try. I've heard so many folks say they like it. I really do like the cooler vape of a bottom coil, and that's a top coil. Oh, and Danno said that they got Smok to officially rename it to the Titan, for obvious reasons! lol oh those silly chinese. or maybe it's us silly Americans. lol
You were asking about ohms - that's a whole other beast. Here's the thing. You're getting a twist, a device that let's you go from 3.2 to 4.8V. The great thing with that is that you can use any of the replaceable heads that come with the stardusts, nova and T2s and simply adjust the twist to where the flavor, vapor and throat is just right for you. They usually have 1.8. 2.4 and 2.8 options and I think GotVapes has a new head that is 3.2 ohms (a bit high, I think, for a twist that only goes up to 4.8V). Get one of each type for any device you choose to buy and twist until you find the combination you like the best and stick with that.
Now, if you care to dig deeper, here goes. As you probably know, watts determines the amount of heat being generated for a given combination of resistance (ohms) and voltage. The formula: (V x V)/R. Where most people like to vape is in the 6 to 8 watt range. Some like it really hot and prefer to go all the way up to 12 watts! Not me, but to each his own. Where you land in the spectrum you'll find out soon enough. Personally, I like 7 to 8 watts. So...
A 1.7 ohm (low resistance) atty I'll set anywhere between 3.7 to 3.9 volts
A 2.4-2.6 ohm (standard resistance) atty ill set anywhere between 4.2 and 4.6 volts
A 2.8 atty maybe at 4.7 or maxed out on the twist
Anything higher than that and I'm using my Provari in the 5+ volt area
Why the wiggle room in volts for a given resistance (why don't I always set my 1.7 at 3.7 volts)? It depends on my mood (if I want a nice kick first thing in the morning, then I'll go higher; at night maybe lower to relax and chain vape). It depends on my device (a little higher on a dripping atty that can keep up with my chain vaping, a little lower on a clearo where I don't want to risk burning out my wick/coil prematurely). It depends on my juice (certain flavors taste great when vaped a bit hotter, while others are better on the cool side). Another thing, and this seems logical, but you tend to get more vapor when setting the voltage a bit on the high side for a given resistance and if seeing plumes of vapor is your thing then you'll likely end up vaping at higher voltages.
So. Most important thing is to get a variety of resistances and just see what you personally like. The above are my personal preferences and general guidelines, but your taste buds and other criteria for what is/isn't a good vape will be the best way to know. The twist is great for you because you really shouldn't care about the numbers at this point and you can just twist up and down until it just tastes good. Once you found that good vape, look at where you land and make not of it. Do the math and then get a sense of what your preferred wattage is and experiment adjusting the volts on your other attys to see if you get the same vape off of them.
Lastly, some things to keep in mind with the twist. It goes up to 4.8V. Anything above a 2.8 might produce too little vapor and be cooler than you might like. I'd stick with 2.8 ohms on the high end for a twist. Joye, the maker of the ego, recommends avoiding low resistance atomizers for their devices. They're optimized for standard resistance attys as lower resistance is felt to add extra strain on that style of battery causing the battery life to diminish quicker (not just between charges, but in general). I personally use LR attys on a twist all the time,but just something to bear in mind. Avoid dual coil cartomizers on twist (the egos will regulate the voltage to 3.7, no matter what you set the twist to). I don't think you plan on using dual coil cartos/tanks, but there you go.
Have fun and sorry for the wall of info.
PS: if anyone has a link to that famous Safe Vaping Power Chart, please post it here for Edana and others on this thread who may be curious. can't ever seem to find it when I need it!
Now, if you care to dig deeper, here goes. As you probably know, watts determines the amount of heat being generated for a given combination of resistance (ohms) and voltage. The formula: (V x V)/R. Where most people like to vape is in the 6 to 8 watt range. Some like it really hot and prefer to go all the way up to 12 watts! Not me, but to each his own. Where you land in the spectrum you'll find out soon enough. Personally, I like 7 to 8 watts. So...
A 1.7 ohm (low resistance) atty I'll set anywhere between 3.7 to 3.9 volts
A 2.4-2.6 ohm (standard resistance) atty ill set anywhere between 4.2 and 4.6 volts
A 2.8 atty maybe at 4.7 or maxed out on the twist
Anything higher than that and I'm using my Provari in the 5+ volt area
Why the wiggle room in volts for a given resistance (why don't I always set my 1.7 at 3.7 volts)? It depends on my mood (if I want a nice kick first thing in the morning, then I'll go higher; at night maybe lower to relax and chain vape). It depends on my device (a little higher on a dripping atty that can keep up with my chain vaping, a little lower on a clearo where I don't want to risk burning out my wick/coil prematurely). It depends on my juice (certain flavors taste great when vaped a bit hotter, while others are better on the cool side). Another thing, and this seems logical, but you tend to get more vapor when setting the voltage a bit on the high side for a given resistance and if seeing plumes of vapor is your thing then you'll likely end up vaping at higher voltages.
So. Most important thing is to get a variety of resistances and just see what you personally like. The above are my personal preferences and general guidelines, but your taste buds and other criteria for what is/isn't a good vape will be the best way to know. The twist is great for you because you really shouldn't care about the numbers at this point and you can just twist up and down until it just tastes good. Once you found that good vape, look at where you land and make not of it. Do the math and then get a sense of what your preferred wattage is and experiment adjusting the volts on your other attys to see if you get the same vape off of them.
Lastly, some things to keep in mind with the twist. It goes up to 4.8V. Anything above a 2.8 might produce too little vapor and be cooler than you might like. I'd stick with 2.8 ohms on the high end for a twist. Joye, the maker of the ego, recommends avoiding low resistance atomizers for their devices. They're optimized for standard resistance attys as lower resistance is felt to add extra strain on that style of battery causing the battery life to diminish quicker (not just between charges, but in general). I personally use LR attys on a twist all the time,but just something to bear in mind. Avoid dual coil cartomizers on twist (the egos will regulate the voltage to 3.7, no matter what you set the twist to). I don't think you plan on using dual coil cartos/tanks, but there you go.
Have fun and sorry for the wall of info.
PS: if anyone has a link to that famous Safe Vaping Power Chart, please post it here for Edana and others on this thread who may be curious. can't ever seem to find it when I need it!
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