Clones... Why?
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You've never seen a mech. for more than $70.00 ? I think you've ONLY seen clones. Just an example ...an original Chi costs like $300.00
EDIT.....here's the PERFECT example of WHY...
Price and availability....
http://goodguyvapes.com/collections/mods-1
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I have both the nemesis and hammer clone by HCigar. They are both amazing in my opinion. I have yet to have any problems with my hammer clone. If you are looking into clones in my opinion HCigar is the best. Tobecco... Is a shot in the dark. Sometimes good, sometimes bad.
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in some cases, you have double agents working for the original company and also selling designs to the clone manufacturers. there are rumors (the Aqua for example) of the originals and clones being made in the same factory. IF this is true, it would be absurd to buy the original. this would explain why there are so many reports of people owning both an original and a clone, and not being able to tell the difference. but as mentioned earlier, this is a case by case basis and youll find some clones to be spot on, while others fail miserably.
this occurs because there are just so many clones. there are even lesser quality cloning manufacturers cloning the box of a more successful cloning company to create the ruse that youre getting a quality clone.
this occurs because there are just so many clones. there are even lesser quality cloning manufacturers cloning the box of a more successful cloning company to create the ruse that youre getting a quality clone.
I wouldn't mind a quality clone at all. Emphasis on 'quality'... But money's not and never is an issue so I don't mind spending $150-$250 on originals as long as I know they're going to be awesome and incredible quality... I'd rather have one good vape then 3 weak clones. But we'll see!! If I can find a good place to get quality ones then yeah I'll do it!
I wonder if this is a Nemesis clone. Sciensky High Quality Mechanical Mod Nemesis Mod - WorldWide Free Shipping
At $23 and change it's pretty cheap, but appears to be legit.
At $23 and change it's pretty cheap, but appears to be legit.
I vape with whatever devices I want as my vape budget is about $500 a month. The issue with me owning clones are availability, I have four clones two R91% they are clones of the Kayfun, a Stingray Mech, and a Magma RDA. I have them all because I could not get my hands on the actual device. As far as aesthetics, I am not a look at me vape kind of guy, I would not buy a Hana Mod clone because there are plenty if DNA30 devices out there. You can continue to skip up on clones but there will be a product as you become more of a vaper that yield kick ... results such as the Russian 91% rating overall better than the Kayfun, the Stingray clone with less than .1 voltage drop, and the Magma RDA capable of holding 47 drops of juice.
My advice to you is do not hinder your choices by perception, I will vape on a $10 clone and get a better vape at some folks at the local B&M... The end result is what you are actually getting out of your hardware not what other people see. If that were the case I would be wanting things rather than having them.
That's fantastic and I am so happy that you have access to items which are generally either perpetually sold out, no longer in production, or are just plain priced so that only the enthusiast who values a few laser-etched markings on a switched tube can enjoy them. I generally prefer the original too however if I want one and it is no longer being made or is not available I have to either rely on the secondary market or buy a clone.
Until I can afford a Provari I think of my vaping gear as expendable. As long as it is cheap yet good enough to keep me from smoking, I am a happy camper. 
I got a clone because I didn't know if rebuilding was for me, and I didn't care to spend $100 on something I didn't know I would enjoy. Not to mention how difficult it is to find an original sometimes. To ask for $100 or more, plus to add a wait list I think is a little ridiculous for some of the items out there. I'm thoroughly convinced some of the more difficult originals to find are that way because the vendor can then jack up the prices.
Yup. And that difference is usually in fit and finish. In every clone I have purchased performance was not affected. Are you going to frame it on the wall or vape it?
I bought all authentic products until I got into the world of Mechs and drippers. I have a hard time justifying the price of an authentic mechanical mod when to me, it's just a polished metal tube with some engravings holding a battery. Similar concept with drippers. Now I know a lot more goes into these products than that, but upwards of $200 for a mech and mid $50 - $150 for an RDA is asking way too much to support that kind of business.
I bought a M16 clone by Hcigar and an Atomic RDA clone by EHpro and honestly, I can't tell the difference between these and the real things. My M16 has a 0.1 voltage drop, what does the authentic mod offer to justify the $100 difference? My Atomic clone CHUCKS vapor, like I can fog up my room after only a few draws.
I do feel guilty for buying clones and thus causing the original developers to lose money, but when a chinese product can perform that well for a fraction of the cost, I know that money isn't going toward just materials and machining and I don't know if the product design is worth another $100 per mod.
I bought a M16 clone by Hcigar and an Atomic RDA clone by EHpro and honestly, I can't tell the difference between these and the real things. My M16 has a 0.1 voltage drop, what does the authentic mod offer to justify the $100 difference? My Atomic clone CHUCKS vapor, like I can fog up my room after only a few draws.
I do feel guilty for buying clones and thus causing the original developers to lose money, but when a chinese product can perform that well for a fraction of the cost, I know that money isn't going toward just materials and machining and I don't know if the product design is worth another $100 per mod.
that is indeed a clone.
agreed! however, might i suggest to overcome the urge to get a black panzer (unless you want to do some work or live with a severe voltage drop). both the original and clones suffer from the same flaw. the flaw is that they decided to cover the 510 threads with black material. this material vastly reduces your voltage and you must clean it off to get optimum performance.
crazy money for a metal battery tube lol. for $150-$250 id want the mechanical mod made personally with my choice of materials, style, engravings etc. then just maybe someone could justify paying that much money for all you get. 
yes, i think a nemesis clone is worth buying. 100%, no question about it. i have one myself and use it daily.
however, i cant tell you if that particular clone is a good copy.
i can tell you that an hcigar nemesis is 100% worth buying. thats the model i have and it is fantastic.
heres a link to an hcigar nemesis:
Nemesis Clone by Hcigar- stainless steel - 101 Vape
thats a USA company. i just realized you are not in the US. google hcigar nemesis or maybe get a Fasttech version, which are also very good (for the most part. be sure to check the # of stars in the review and you should not have a problem.)
here you go:
https://www.fasttech.com/search?nemesis
I posted earlier but like I stated, most clones are made 1:1 so materials are the same. They might not be as finished as originals do have a limited production run thus they take their time to make sure they're finished properly. Also in some cases the clones might perform slightly better than their og counterparts.
Case in point my Panzer clone. It looks and feels great. All the reviews I've seen show little to no difference in the clone vs the og. Aside from the manufacturer name engraving font it's spot on.
Another thing is that the high cost of these mods was something that Vape Shops were ill prepared for. When you're stocked up on $200+ mods the goons come out. There were a rash of break ins @ vape shops in the Los Angeles area last year and I don't think they wanted some juice.
Clones make sense. Sure having an OG is a bit snobbish because it is unique, from an economic standpoint if A performs exactly like B, why pay the markup?
The Clone Wars man. They'll continue.
Case in point my Panzer clone. It looks and feels great. All the reviews I've seen show little to no difference in the clone vs the og. Aside from the manufacturer name engraving font it's spot on.
Another thing is that the high cost of these mods was something that Vape Shops were ill prepared for. When you're stocked up on $200+ mods the goons come out. There were a rash of break ins @ vape shops in the Los Angeles area last year and I don't think they wanted some juice.
Clones make sense. Sure having an OG is a bit snobbish because it is unique, from an economic standpoint if A performs exactly like B, why pay the markup?
The Clone Wars man. They'll continue.
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