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JF, I am not sure about this, but I believe that VG and PG will both "go bad" under similar circumstances (light and air). I guess since there is not one particular VG when referencing VG (food grade, pharma, industrial, etc.) this may bring up different findings as to VG's relative shelf-life.
 

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JF, I am not sure about this, but I believe that VG and PG will both "go bad" under similar circumstances (light and air). I guess since there is not one particular VG when referencing VG (food grade, pharma, industrial, etc.) this may bring up different findings as to VG's relative shelf-life.

I'm sure you are correct, and I almost certainly used sloppy terminology. I cannot at the moment find the piece that compared it to honey in its "stability." But from wikipedia: "Glycerol possesses the intrinsic property of not denaturing or rendering a botanical's constituents inert (as di-atomic alcohols – i.e. ethanolic (grain) alcohol, methanolic (wood) alcohol, etc., do). Glycerol is a stable preserving agent for botanical extracts that, when utilized in proper concentrations in an extraction solvent base, does not allow inverting or reduction-oxidation of a finished extract's constituents, even over several years."

Also its use as a preserving agent in food and pharma applications tends to argue for its own intrinsic "stability." It is also "bacteriostatic" which means it keeps bacteria from growing...

And you are definitely correct, as well, that there are different grades, plant origins, and even synthetic glycerol (glycerine).

I'll will try to find the honey comparison when I've had more sleep. :)
 
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I'm sure you are correct, and I almost certainly used sloppy terminology. I cannot at the moment find the piece that compared it to honey in its "stability." But from wikipedia: "Glycerol possesses the intrinsic property of not denaturing or rendering a botanical's constituents inert (as di-atomic alcohols – i.e. ethanolic (grain) alcohol, methanolic (wood) alcohol, etc., do). Glycerol is a stable preserving agent for botanical extracts that, when utilized in proper concentrations in an extraction solvent base, does not allow inverting or reduction-oxidation of a finished extract's constituents, even over several years."

Also its use as a preserving agent in food and pharma applications tends to argue for its own intrinsic "stability." It is also "bacteriostatic" which means it keeps bacteria from growing...

And you are definitely correct, as well, that there are different grades, plant origins, and even synthetic glycerol (glycerine).

I'll will try to find the honey comparison when I've had more sleep. :)

That' interesting. Yes, it is. I wonder what Rolygate would say? LOL. I do applaud you for trying to make the best, most long lasting product you can.
 

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I find the viscosity really perfect. Although I use VG only or with 10% PG all the time, so I'm used to it. When I buy a bottle of pure VG I add 10% distilled water, because pure IS thick.
But the WTA from here is great in my bottom coil and genny devices.
Hope you can do it a bit stronger, as I'm a long way away, and I DIY all the time.
Great stuff, it's cut down my consumption dramatically ;) , which isn't really good for your business, but it's great for me :D
 

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Thanks, Starlyte2!

Higher mg DIY econo-size is definitely being discussed. It would probably not be available on the website, so I'd have a chance to be sure people knew what they were getting and were intending DIY.

Oh, and yes, you may use less e-liquid with our stuff, (YMMV) but we're quite pleased with any and all returning customers' orders, regardless of frequency; we're glad you're getting the satisfaction that's enabled you to vape less. And the possibly dozens of people who may read your post and might also wish to cut down their consumption as well...that's priceless. :)
 

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I discovered the thread "nicotine, are we getting it?" or somesuch thing...can't find the link now...anyway the thread that WTA is first postulated and discussed, in late December of 2011. A little late to the party, yes. But I was mesmerized. I read the entire thing (and more) in about a weekend.

Sorry I missed this post when it was made in early August. Just wanted to correct your reckoning of the date, it was November 2009, two years prior to the December 2011 date you gave.

I've got a blog post up that briefly summarizes what was happening back then, if anyone is interested.
 

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Sorry I missed this post when it was made in early August. Just wanted to correct your reckoning of the date, it was November 2009, two years prior to the December 2011 date you gave.

I've got a blog post up that briefly summarizes what was happening back then, if anyone is interested.

Dvap, I am almost psotive he was saying that he found the thread in 2011. At first when I read it I thought the same thing, that he had the dates off, but then I realized it was him saying he found the thread in late 2011.
 

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Dvap, I am almost psotive he was saying that he found the thread in 2011. At first when I read it I thought the same thing, that he had the dates off, but then I realized it was him saying he found the thread in late 2011.

And this is why I never have to remember anything... Mann remembers it for me!
 

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Hey ladies and gentlemen,

I'm looking for another good PV, preferably a Provari, since I know they work very well. Looking to trade some bottles for it! Stock up on WTA and unload a device you aren't using!

Many thanks!


-jf


I've got fasttech vamo2 :laugh: :blink: if you're interested lol I'm just teasing, it's just the best PV I've got at the moment
 
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I've got fasttech vamo2 :laugh: :blink: if you're interested lol I'm just teasing, it's just the best PV I've got at the moment

I have no idea what that is. :)

But since you're joking I imagine I probably don't want it?

I should probably make it a firm offer, though...entice you all...:)

How about 180ml (six 30ml bottles) for a working Provari (any model) in good condition?
 

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I have no idea what that is. :)

But since you're joking I imagine I probably don't want it?

I should probably make it a firm offer, though...entice you all...:)

How about 180ml (six 30ml bottles) for a working Provari (any model) in good condition?

holy freakiN' cOW. Okay, let me be the first to sign up for a further discussion on this!
 

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Ok, i just got my 1st WTA from Aroma Ejuice. i had to come back to work so i added ~ .25 mL of 24mg Virginia Blend to about a half mL of 6mg HHV Legend that was in my sole tobac clearo today. so ~.75 mL of ~a 12 mg juice

this is giving me a nice relaxing type sensation. more body vs. heady as might be said. i feel the muscles in my back relaxing.

sorry for this half baked first try but i'm pleased and wanted to share. will try the 12mg DK Tab and Turkish blend i also got. dont think i'll be doing the 24mg straight as i'm down to 6mg now.

oh, and it tastes absolutely great!
 

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Ok, i just got my 1st WTA from Aroma Ejuice. i had to come back to work so i added ~ .25 mL of 24mg Virginia Blend to about a half mL of 6mg HHV Legend that was in my sole tobac clearo today. so ~.75 mL of ~a 12 mg juice

this is giving me a nice relaxing type sensation. more body vs. heady as might be said. i feel the muscles in my back relaxing.

sorry for this half baked first try but i'm pleased and wanted to share. will try the 12mg DK Tab and Turkish blend i also got. dont think i'll be doing the 24mg straight as i'm down to 6mg now.

oh, and it tastes absolutely great!

I really like a couple of their PG-based tobacco liquids just for the TH and flavor, but it's awesome that it works well for you with relaxation. Anyway, just an FYI, this is not an Aroma thread--it's WholeCig. WholeCig is a completely different WTA vendor than Aroma. No worries as JF is not the type of person to get ...... for mentioning another vendor in his thread (not all vendors are like that). Vape on, my friend, vape on.
 
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