Cloupor Mini Mod 30W

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I honestly don't understand this ”more watts” craze...

I'm never using more than half of what CP mini can give. That is, I'm usually at 12.5 watts - regardless if I'm „ohming or sub-ohming” (albeit 1.2 ohms at 12 watts seems to be my sweet spot on CP and Subtank mini).

Yeah, I'm not producing Olympian amounts of vapor, but then again I don't function as a stage FX specialist.
How can many of you people vape at anything above 15 watts is absolutely beyond me.
Could be that it's simply not my thing, but I'd like to understand.
 

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Yeah, big difference between your vaping and my vaping, that's for sure. I run my Subtank 1.2 ohm coils between 22-25 watts, and would go higher but the wicking won't keep up beyond that. I'm a lung hitter who takes deep hits, and HATES HATES HATES PG (did I mention I'm not fond of PG at all?) so I use max VG juice. Trying your settings with my juice, I don't even register that I just vaped anything. No warmth, no density, no flavor, and just a little wisp of cig-alike level vapor.

There is a purpose for more power, and the Cloupor Mini is underpowered or borderline underpowered for a lot of folks.

Also keep in mind that nastyassed PG vaporizes over 100f lower than VG, as well.

Heck, you're vaping 2.5 watts lower than what even Kanger recommends for the 1.2 ohm coils, laser etched right on the side.
 
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How hard was this Croak? Any install tips?
Dropped my clouper mini/k4 yesterday, stripped the 510 thread, now its loose & displays the infamous 'check atomizer'. Thinking of repairing it with the varitube.

It wasn't the easiest 510 transplant ever.

Had to remove everything from the housing, starting with using rubbing alcohol to loosen the hot glue. Snipped the 510 pos and neg, and the battery neg going to the tray because the negative contact is mounted to the body and I didn't want to rip it off, so I bent that tab out so the plastic tray could slide out.

I left the battery positive to the board in place, so that the board and battery sled came out as one unit, just one less thing to re-solder later.

Then had to finish punching out the old connector, and then enlarged the hole with a 3/8" drill bit. Didn't bother tapping it for threads, just used the 3/8", then widened it a bit more once it was through, so I could just drop the Varitube connector inside, snugly.

Once the 510 was in, discovered that there's little reinforcement bits on the top and bottom of the case, on the display side, that interfered with the nut that would screw on the Varitube 510 post. Had to Dremel the top one down almost flush.

Then I had to work around the post the top magnet is mounted on to get in to tighten everything. Then discovered that same nut would interfere with the battery sled and positive wire, so I had to Dremel the side of the 510 nut down a bit, and Dremel the sled to give the wire more room to run out since the nut was still in the way.

Then it was just a matter of putting the board and battery sled back in, bending the negative post back into shape, and soldering up the 510 and battery negative I clipped. Due to the tight clearances, I couldn't use the negative ring post that Varitube supplied, so I soldered the negative directly to the 510 nut, but wasn't happy with the connection, so ended up running a thick bead of solder between the chassis and the 510 nut, and the wire is in the middle of that bead.

Once it was up and running again, I took some hot glue and gooped back in basically the same places Cloupor did, to secure the board and wires from vibration.

Whole process took a couple hours. If I had to do it again, it'd take about half an hour.
 
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What VG to PG are you using ? I'm using 70 / 30 VG / Pg . Really vape at 8 watts. Make my coils at 1.6 in protank 2 . I agree with Flapstick and never have gone half way on the C mini.........

90% VG or thereabouts. There's a bit of PG in some of the flavorings, and the rest of the 10% is water. And I couldn't use a Protank or Nautilus again if you paid me, I'd rather smoke a Camel. Not nearly enough airflow, using something that restrictive was always like taking a shower in a raincoat, or scratching an itchy .... with ski pants and mittens on.

Keep in mind when I smoked, I lung hit too, big deep hits right to my pumps, bright red cherry, quarter inch of ash for every draw. There was never any puffing for me, so MTL is just not my thing, never was.
 
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Whoa. Thanks 4 the blow by blow, truly appreciate it Croak!

No dremel, this busted mini-clouper may be sitting in the back of the drawer for some time :(. Since everything needs to be gutted, probably a good time 4 a temp conversion mod too. Hmmmm......

Well, you can get a Dremel clone pretty cheap these days, or you could just patiently file or sand the things I used a Dremel on.

And gutting it and putting the old board back in place is vastly less complicated than trying to fit an Evolv-type board in there. You'd have to wire in for the buttons, and figure a way to secure the buttons to the chassis, since the Evolv on board buttons are stacked up/down, not top/bottom and won't line up with the holes on the Cloupor. You'd also have to deal with installing a USB board if you want to retain charging, since the Cloupor's USB is integrated, Evolv's is not.

Same problems fitting a Yihi board inside, a different board and button layout.

Neither job is impossible, but neither job is easy either.
 

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90% VG or thereabouts. There's a bit of PG in some of the flavorings, and the rest of the 10% is water. And I couldn't use a Protank or Nautilus again if you paid me
Well I use the air valve on the PT 2's maybe that's why it works so good. Without it I suppose it wouldn't work so good for me....:blush:
 

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I apologize in advance for being off-topic, but what is „a dremel”, exactly?

I obviously googled it, with confusing results. I saw Dremel is a power tools company, but their range is rather vast.

A "dremel" is a small rotary power tool (Dremel calls it a "multi-tool"), hand-held and electrically powered (either corded for wall current or cordless with rechargeable batteries. I'd call it a hobbyist's tool, but that's too limiting. Dremels have about a thousand attachments available. They can be purchased a la carte or, more typically, in kits containing an assortment of attachments. Dremels drill, cut, grind, sand, and polish, among many other uses.
 

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It's worth the wait !! Still thinking on ordering a third mini........

I also have a 2nd one, just fired it up once 3-4 times at 30w for 15seconds. And it's sitting there waiting. My first one from batch 0002, that I have since 4-5-6 January somewhere still working perfectly, and it's the only device I've used since then, with an orchid dual coil at 0,84 ohm and a subtank with 0,8-0,9 coils. I do use a separate charger for my samsung ir25 and lg he2 batteries. I also already considered getting a 3rd one. But on the other hand I have one waiting just in case. And with thoday's market there is always something new on the corner. But if my first one dies on me and I start using the 2nd one, i'll definitely order another backup asap.

The size, easy of changing batteries does it for me. It is my first box, but damn it's handy
 

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What the heck is a Tootle Puffer?

That's Kat-speak for a someone who vapes via mouth-to-lung inhaling (two-steps: first inhale vapor into the mouth, then inhale that mouthful of vapor into the lungs), as opposed to the direct-lung-inhale method preferred by cloud-chasers and others.

Mouth-to-lung provides an extra step for tasting the juice's flavor---savoring the flavor in the mouth, then again during the exhale---although direct-lung folks would probably dispute that and assert that the greater volume of a direct-lung hit gives more intense flavor.

Direct-lung-inhaling virtually requires extremely low nicotine levels in the juice---from 0mg nic to about 6mg mic maximum. More nicotine than that with a long direct-lung-inhale, and the brain goes bonkers.

For some of us who smoked for many decades, direct-lung-inhaling just isn't comfortable physically, no matter how low the nic level. I don't know if that's because of cumulative lung damage or just so many years of habit, but we remain mouth-to-lung "Tootie Puffers" by default. Even after 4+ years of chain-vaping, as an ex-40-year smoker, I watch the direct-lung inhales some people take (especially the younger vapers) in YouTube videos, and I marvel that they can do that.
 
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