Co-Op Interest for L-Rider Lavatubes for $30 each unit!!!

[KeysBum]

If everything goes well for this FIRST coop, there will be more to follow, as explained in my opening statement.

The first group is actually going to be handled by Joker, via a lottery-type selection:

RANDOM.ORG - True Random Number Service

And either posting the actual numbers via screen shot or something similar.

I figured that would be the fairest way to handle so many interested parties in this thread.

So everyone has exactly the same chance of participation in the very first coop!

WTF, how is that fair? didn't you say in your first post "the first 100"? I've been in since day one, but now maybe not based on random chance?

 

[skipdashu]

I broke down and paid full price at Volcano. Should be vaping on mine next week. Until I check it out I'll stay on the list for a 2nd one but in all likelihood I'll drop out as I've got too many mods already and have 2 projects on my bench now.

Thanx anyway, Skip

 

[jacquelyn]

I personally do not think it is fair to do it through random numbers. WHen you posted it was the first 100 people. Now people who have been following the thread since it been posted may not be included. That isn't right. It should have been stated that way to begin with.

 

[rob5482]

yea I knew this was too good to be true from the begining and Joker knows that already. Your random number gen is a bunch of bull.... you knew this was going to get too large and now you cant handle it and have ...... alot of people off. Over a 1000 posts that I have been reading and keeping up with from the begining and for what. A WASTE OF TIME. I should have spent the extra 20 bucks in the 1st place when you started having problems with l rider.

As for companies ordering from them with wire transfers, they can afford international lawyers and what not that know international law. L rider knows this and knows that you are not a company so can mess with you any way they want.

What you are basicly saying is sorry to all you that have been in this from the begining but you may have to wait for annother 10 co-ops to get anything. Way to go there bud. great job.

cOUNT ME OUT, ILL BUY ONE FOR 50 BUCKS ON SALE.

 

[pringles13]

Kind of disappointed as well, but in Shek's defense.. he is running the co-op and it has grown into a HUGE enterprise. If he needs to change how it works, that is his prerogative. He's trying to protect not only himself from risk in placing such a huge order, but it is also in the interests of all of those potentially involved.

 

[rob5482]

I am still waiting for an answer on what other places he was looking at besides L-rider as was stated before. Like I have said something SMELLED really fishy from the begining but I was trying to give the benefit of doubt.

No all of a sudden its only L-rider we are dealing with AGAIN.

 

[LordDavon]

I hope this helps: The import duty rate for importing electronic cigarette into United Kingdom is 2.2%

I know it says UK, but it has US in it also. I'm not part of the coop, but I thought I could help, if it helps.

 

[araczynski]

i don't think 'random' is fair either, i thought most coops have always been 'first-in'? as in 'you snooze you loose'.

but like i said, what's fair in life? its not my coop, so he can do whatever he wants.

 

[Iffy]

"If more than 100 are interested, the first 100 to post their interest will be considered first."

After 1200 posts we're down to a frickin' random drawing?!?!?!?

 

[KeysBum]

Really? So people who've been following this since page 1 might not get in now? What's the picking process or is it first to post? I'd like to know about this. I trust that you have done the due diligence and trust you with my money so I'm still in regardless of not being able to do PayPal.

Please let me know about this, Shek.

So you didn't read the first post about the first 100 and you're .......

I was post #140 and followed it since page 1. I'd just have wasted a lot of time if I can't get in now

Edit: See that you just posted. Random is fair. I understand. I'm glad it's going to be random otherwise I'd be a little peeved lol Hopefully I get in on this one! *crosses fingers*

Now you realize that many of the first 100 will be screwed and you are happy about that because you might get in. I think I have good insight into your intelligence and character.

 

[araczynski]

just realized i was "me-too" in post #11 so yeah, 'extra unfair'

not to be wagging my finger at shrek, but if the initial statement said 'first 100' then changing it a few weeks later might be an issue for the powers that be here, then again, its not an actual coop, its a feeler...

who knows, i'll either get one or i won't i guess have my Bolt on the way just in case this doesn't pan out

i'll live with whatever he chooses, i've always believed 'everything happens for a reason'.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Thanks for that link, LD....it could be helpful.

But the LT is not classified as an electronic cigarette.

It's closer to a regulated flashlight.

I hope this helps: The import duty rate for importing electronic cigarette into United Kingdom is 2.2%

I know it says UK, but it has US in it also. I'm not part of the coop, but I thought I could help, if it helps.

 

[mortios]

I was post 400 and something but I think I'm just going to opt out totally.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

just realized i was "me-too" in post #11 so yeah, 'extra unfair'

not to be wagging my finger at shrek, but if the initial statement said 'first 100' then changing it a few weeks later might be an issue for the powers that be here, then again, its not an actual coop, its a feeler...

who knows, i'll either get one or i won't i guess have my Bolt on the way just in case this doesn't pan out

i'll live with whatever he chooses, i've always believed 'everything happens for a reason'.

Exactly...this isn't the actual Co-Op thread, it's an interest thread.

If it makes any of you feel any better, I'm in the drawing too.

 

[rob5482]

To tell the truth I am not ...... about the whole random thing (well a little I was post 52) I am ...... about being misled. !st it was L rider , no they dont take paypal so we wont use them. Then ok I am looking at a few others places, never heard anything about them. Now its back to L-Rider (they dont take paypal) so send me a money order. Then what? You going to wire the money to L-rider? And if they stiff you? U going to give everyone their money back???

That is what I am ...... about. Weeks of reading and following and what not and in the mean time nothing has happened except what was posted originally.

 

[hairball]

Hmmm...a random drawing? Sure why not. If I get picked, great. If not, I wait for another one. Not a big deal to me. I'm still in. In today's tough economy, I'll gladly wait to save some money...that just means I'll have that extra cash to buy something else that I may want.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

If you had all of the facts Rob, I wouldn't be looking at this statement.

So when Joker comes in here to explain WHY it's being handled this way, those of you throwing temper tantrums are going to feel pretty dang childish for making assumptions based on nothing!

But if you feel that following a thread for the past 30 days is a waste of time, then clearly a Co-Op is definitely NOT a venture for you!

You guys seem to forget....I'm not a reseller and I'm not paid for my effort or labor or time or anything for that matter!

I'm not holding you at gunpoint and everyone is free to leave the interest thread anytime you wish.

But those of you that are patient and maintain your interest, I have every intention of satisfying your order...whether it be 1 coop or many.

But it's not up to me at this point as I'm NOT in total control.....the ECF is!

So good luck with your purchase Rob, I hope that you find what you're wanting.

Please remove rob5482 from the list and anyone else that's no longer interested, Sonic.....thanks man!

yea I knew this was too good to be true from the begining and Joker knows that already. Your random number gen is a bunch of bull.... you knew this was going to get too large and now you cant handle it and have ...... alot of people off. Over a 1000 posts that I have been reading and keeping up with from the begining and for what. A WASTE OF TIME. I should have spent the extra 20 bucks in the 1st place when you started having problems with l rider.

As for companies ordering from them with wire transfers, they can afford international lawyers and what not that know international law. L rider knows this and knows that you are not a company so can mess with you any way they want.

What you are basicly saying is sorry to all you that have been in this from the begining but you may have to wait for annother 10 co-ops to get anything. Way to go there bud. great job.

cOUNT ME OUT, ILL BUY ONE FOR 50 BUCKS ON SALE.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Hmmm...a random drawing? Sure why not. If I get picked, great. If not, I wait for another one. Not a big deal to me. I'm still in. In today's tough economy, I'll gladly wait to save some money...that just means I'll have that extra cash to buy something else that I may want.

I couldn't have said it better myself, Hairball!!

 

[mgmrick]

seems like its getting a little heated in here.....

 

[rob5482]

Well if you think i am throwing a temper tantrum that is your opinion. I am still waiting on your answer to WHAT other companies you contacted about these as you said you would. As for why joker is handling it, that's obvious, you cant. You should have never taken on this adventure in the 1st place and if you go back and READ my posts I told you that in the very begining.

You have blatantly misled people and that is what I am mad about. From saying you have Price lists, to quotes to all kinds of other things but you never produced them. So Here again is my question to you, whom else did you contact besides L-Rider and what were their responses. I think you owe at least that to the many many people here.

How many co-ops have you been part of?? I have been through several and not one has had a feeler with so little information , misinformation and what not.

And BTW for the record L-Rider is NOT the only one making these VV mods and there are several companies that do take paypal, and that information was gathered in the time it took you to respond to my last post.

So yes I am out of this co-op and I am sure there will be many more that will be out as well. You bit off more then you could chew.