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Tried my hand at a Clapton coil, tried something different cause the only wire I have is 28, 26, & 24g. I used 28g over 28g because if I used anything bigger than 28 for the core wire, the legs wouldn't fit thru my post holes. Anyway, I wrapped it around a 1/16 bit and gave it 5 wraps, came out to .48 ohms on my meter, it produces exceptional flavor and really puts out the vapor.

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I just gotta asked - your dual coil clapton donut whirliegig coil vs my 3strand 30g twisted - both are .4ohm...


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Being silly but question is - whats the difference? If we both get to dual .4ohm - is it the same vape?

Not being a smarty_pants here - I am genuinely interested.

Which one are you talking about, the stove tops I built a few days ago, dual coils were at .2 ohms. With the stove tops I built, it's a very hot vape, but produces amazing flavor. Down side with those, they burn thru a lot of juice and drain the battery really quick.

The one I just posted now is a single Clapton coil, it's at .48 ohms. This is the first time I've ever tried to build it. So far, vaped it for about an hour. My thoughts on it, it's a nice warm vape (not cold and not to hot) has really great flavor (vaping banana cream pie) produces a lot of vapor, I'm noticing that the coils itself holds a lot more juice then a standard micro coil and because of that I'm guessing is why it produces so much vapor.

As far as how it compares to you're .4 ohm triple twisted 30g coil, I don't know. How's the flavor? How's the vapor? Is it a hot, warm, or cool vape? How many wraps did you do per coil? Which atomizer are you using? There's a lot of different variables, IMO to many to even begin to compare. If we were on an even playing field then maybe. I've never tried a triple twisted, but on my cyclone I only use a twisted 28g six wrap single micro coil. It's what I've found to produce the best flavor/vapor that works for me. It's a .5 ohm coil, chunks the vapor out of my cyclone with AFC top. Cool vape, the best flavor I can get from any of my atomizers and doesn't burn through juice or kill my batteries.

All in all a .4 is a .4, but coil construction is a game changer. Different wire gauge, number of wraps, wicking material, all make a huge difference. They may have the same resistance, but I doubt they perform on the same levels.


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Tried my hand at a Clapton coil, tried something different cause the only wire I have is 28, 26, & 24g. I used 28g over 28g because if I used anything bigger than 28 for the core wire, the legs wouldn't fit thru my post holes. Anyway, I wrapped it around a 1/16 bit and gave it 5 wraps, came out to .48 ohms on my meter, it produces exceptional flavor and really puts out the vapor.

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Very interesting, this. Not sure I've ever heard of or seen Claptons made with two of the same gauge wire. I like.
 

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Yeah, it's not as pretty as all the others I've seen and probably not traditional text book Clapton coil material, but it works and I'm happy with it. I need to reorder more 28g almost out of my spool so I think I'll pick up some 30g with it next time. Maybe next time I'll try 30g wrapped over some 26g.


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Yeah, it's not as pretty as all the others I've seen and probably not traditional text book Clapton coil material, but it works and I'm happy with it. I need to reorder more 28g almost out of my spool so I think I'll pick up some 30g with it next time. Maybe next time I'll try 30g wrapped over some 26g.


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How is the heat up and cool down?
 

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How is the heat up and cool down?

My 28G around 22G was a little slow, but only from a cold start-up. After it got going, it was going good. Stayed warm for a bit, which I like (big surprise there).

I'd like to try some 32G wrapped around some 22G. I need to be able to fit a dual coil set-up on there, and the 22G-28G just wasn't having it. Also, dual coils of 28G and 22G would probably meter in around 0.04Ω or so. That's too low for even me.
 

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All in all a .4 is a .4, but coil construction is a game changer. Different wire gauge, number of wraps, wicking material, all make a huge difference. They may have the same resistance, but I doubt they perform on the same levels.

OK that's what I was wondering - if .4 is .4 no matter now we get there.

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OK that's what I was wondering - if .4 is .4 no matter now we get there.

thanks!

Triple twisted versus single strand in the same resistance gives me two different vapes, particularly with respect to heat/cool time, and (I swear) flavour profile.

The claptons have me curious, if only for the YOLO factor of trying one out, but I'm still researching the core/outer combo I'd like to try.
 

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You have a limit? :?:

Spare me, would you? :rolleyes:

Knowing you Papa, I think 32G wrapped around 26G might be comfortable. If that seems like a bit much, maybe go so high as 34G around 28G.

Forgot to mention, in case the ohmages seemed strange to you (you being anyone keeping up with this thread), the 22G core in the Clapton I made was 22G Nuke Hotwires by Chadster, not Kanthal A1. It was, however, wrapped with 28G Kanthal A1. That should clear up a few boggled minds.
 
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What would you say are the advantages of the Nuke wire over kanthal?

Surely you're familiar with this new strain of "specialty wires". There's all different kinds; G-plat, Hotwires, Arsenal... They are all unique compositions of material, usually containing some nickel, and have much less resistance per foot than Kanthal. For example, a 6/5 wrap, 3/32" ID dual coil with 24G Kanthal would meter in around 0.24Ω, where the same build with Arsenal would be closer to 0.16Ω or so.
 
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