Coils and wire and tools, oh my

[Shawn Hoefer]

Both are nice units, but only the coil master lets you build and burn in coils, that's the $20 difference in price. I'm planning to get the coil master 521 over the Geekvape.

Uh... no... the Geekvape 521 allows for build 'n' burn, too. The difference is in the accessories which most folks never use. I have used, but do not yet own the Geekvape 521 Tab, and, honestly, the only con I have... it's s bit of a fingerprint magnet.

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[Shawn Hoefer]

@sawlight @MMW

This page has a great description of use.

http://www.heavengifts.com/GeekVape-Digital-521-Tab-Coil-Master.html

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[MMW]

I think it fires at a lower resistance than the coil master too.

 

[Falconeer]

I'm a cheapskate that likes to travel and travel light - I use one of my wife's old 2mm crochet hooks as a mandrel, an old pair of tweezers out of a nail care kit and cotton balls out of the supermarket...it works not too bad!

 

[puffon]

Uh... no... the Geekvape 521 allows for build 'n' burn, too. The difference is in the accessories which most folks never use. I have used, but do not yet own the Geekvape 521 Tab, and, honestly, the only con I have... it's s bit of a fingerprint magnet.

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If it matters, the CM uses a solid SS 510.
The Geek vape is plated.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

I'm a cheapskate that likes to travel and travel light - I use one of my wife's old 2mm crochet hooks as a mandrel, an old pair of tweezers out of a nail care kit and cotton balls out of the supermarket...it works not too bad!

I'm cheap, too. That's why I brought this up... I want to get the best bang (without the bang, of course) for the buck.

However, unless it's untreated, organic cotton, I would avoid the supermarket stuff. I do have organic cotton balls from Walgreens, but they run around $3 for 88. I get Labo Puffs JOC...

I also like me some rayon...

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[Shawn Hoefer]

Just read this review:
Geek Vape 521 Tab Review

 

[sawlight]

Uh... no... the Geekvape 521 allows for build 'n' burn, too. The difference is in the accessories which most folks never use. I have used, but do not yet own the Geekvape 521 Tab, and, honestly, the only con I have... it's s bit of a fingerprint magnet.

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Well color me stupid! I guess it's the fact that you can use the leads for testing coils? IDK, been looking at too much crap to keep it all straight anymore!

 

[Ramsay Bolton]

This is what I use to make and wick my coils:

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

This is what I use to make and wick my coils:


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But that's only for the sausage mod, right?

 

[Ramsay Bolton]

But that's only for the sausage mod, right?

You got it!

The sausage mod requires a hefty and manly coil build.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Alrighty, then. Doing some side by side comparisons of wire shots. I got some from Geekvape and some from Thunderhead. I have to say that they both work as expected, but the detail on the Geekvape puts the Thunderhead to shame. The Geekvape Clapton wire was very fine where the Thunderhead was quite coarse. That's not to say that I'm not using the other, just that it's not usable in anything bu monster tanks and RDAs. The Geekvape was fine enough to easily wrap and tuck into my new Avocado 24 in about 3 minutes.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Tonight, I built a vertibraid (6 strand braided and woven) out of 32 gauge Kanthal. I've installed it as a dual coil setup in my Avocado 24. Wow!

What's your favorite build for an RTA? For that matter, what's your favorite RTA?

 

[sawlight]

Mine is still the KFL with a simple 28ga Kanthal build. I've got the notch in the Theorum and it's a very close second, I just got my Avocado yesterday, I've got to do another build in it, right now it's 22ga SS, 4mm at .4 ohms and I hate it! Muted "sanitary" taste, it runs hot, really hot and isn't anything like the Theorom IMO! The Goblin mini is close to the KFL, but I'll take the Theorom over it and I haven't played with the TFV4 enough to say one way or the other and I've yet to build on the Mutank. (Got too many new toys at one time I guess!)

 

[sawlight]

Well 101 vape has the Geekvape 521 tab on sale for $18 this weekend, but I just couldn't do it, it wasn't what I REALLY wanted, so I ended up on Evilbay and got a Coil master 521 on the way for $32 shipped.
@Shawn Hoefer you might be tickled pink with the Geekvape, it's not a bad unit, just didn't let me get rid of my DMV off the kitchen table, like I'd hoped, still need to get a rough idea of coil length on wire.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Well 101 vape has the Geekvape 521 tab on sale for $18 this weekend, but I just couldn't do it, it wasn't what I REALLY wanted, so I ended up on Evilbay and got a Coil master 521 on the way for $32 shipped.
@Shawn Hoefer you might be tickled pink with the Geekvape, it's not a bad unit, just didn't let me get rid of my DMV off the kitchen table, like I'd hoped, still need to get a rough idea of coil length on wire.

You have an entire department of motor vehicles on your kitchen table?

I use a couple coil calculators and get pretty exact wire lengths... MicroCoil Pro and Vape Tools Pro.



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[sawlight]

You have an entire department of motor vehicles on your kitchen table?

I use a couple coil calculators and get pretty exact wire lengths... MicroCoil Pro and Vape Tools Pro.



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I'm old skweel, I don't trust the calculators, had them wrong too many times! Then I have to do "suitable builds" on occasion, meaning I have to suit the build with what I have, to what I want, and make it fit! Then I have friends that want a particular build so I figure out how to make it work.
I measure resistance by length a LOT!!! So yes, I use my DMV for measuring resistance more than I like, but it's what I'm used to.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

I'm old skweel, I don't trust the calculators, had them wrong too many times! Then I have to do "suitable builds" on occasion, meaning I have to suit the build with what I have, to what I want, and make it fit! Then I have friends that want a particular build so I figure out how to make it work.
I measure resistance by length a LOT!!! So yes, I use my DMV for measuring resistance more than I like, but it's what I'm used to.

I used to check my calculators against a table of resistances (by gauge and inch) using a digital multimeter, but the new ohm readers are so much more accurate than my old multimeter (Radio Shack autoranging from .1 up), I gave up. Now, I build based on the calculators I've selected and they've more often than not been within .05.

More accurate than the ohm reader, the Innokin Coolfire IV TC100 is amazing...

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[Shawn Hoefer]

Tonight's foray was stepping back a bit. I threw a .7 Ohm 3 mm 26 gauge Kanthal A1 5 spaced wrap build into my old Taifun GT II. It's vaping a treat on my HCigar Gyro 35 W tube set to 22 watts.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

I know some of you just use crochet hooks or screwdrivers... who uses jigs? And for those jig users, are you only using the jigs with plain wire builds, or are you managing to wrap fancy wire builds on 'em, too?