Cold maceration of tobacco

[Ian444]

Paul, try to get a tobacco that is something you would have liked when you smoked, that is a good place to start in my little experience. I say that because it is a flavor extraction more than anything else. Or choose a tobacco that you always liked the smell of when smoked around you.

On another note, I have a few small cold macerations over a month old and have run out of bottles to bottle it and mix with nic. I used all my spare bottles up with my heat-assisted macerations

 

[PaulBHC]

The high end shop is no longer there. I found a Smoker Friendly store but all they had for American Spirit was a tin for $30 plus tax. Tops or Bugler was the other choice.

Maybe the casino smoke shop on the rez has other than cartons.

 

[johni]

The high end shop is no longer there. I found a Smoker Friendly store but all they had for American Spirit was a tin for $30 plus tax. Tops or Bugler was the other choice.

Maybe the casino smoke shop on the rez has other than cartons.

That's one reason I order primarily from the internet. Pipes and cigars dot com 1 oz. bulk buys are shipped in a nicely labeled baggie. They carry many other tobaccos in 1.5 to 2 oz tins for a little more coin.

 

[PaulBHC]

On my way to check it out. ty

 

[PaulBHC]

I didn't read all of it but it is a felony to buy (other than pipe and cigar tobacco) tobacco products outside of the normal retail store face to face environment. Effective last year.

https://www.azag.gov/tobacco/laws

 

[johni]

The Daughters and Ryan tobaccos I mentioned previously, among others, are labeled as pipe tobacco to get around that problem. Many tobaccos that are primarily RYO are sold in bags and some in the small tins. Perfectly legal.

 

[PaulBHC]

I started to get that impression as I was googling loose tobacco. Nothing called cig tobacco.

 

[johni]

If they call it pipe tobacco, they avoid a bunch of regulation and taxation. Makes sense to me.

ETA: And it can be smoked in a pipe anyway, or in our case drowned in PG!

 

[PaulBHC]

googled american spirit and their store locator for my area shows not RYO products except for the smoke shop at the tribal casino. It is actually across the river in either Calif or Nevada, I think Nevada. I'll have to make a little trip over there.

 

[PaulBHC]

Got my box of joy from WL today. Stopped by the smoke shop and all they had in a pouch was Organic Am Spirit. $9.61 for the 1.4 ounce seemed a bit steep but I bought it anyway. Some methods say an ounce and some say 15 grams. I assume this is by weight. I have a small diet scale but not sure how accurate it is.

First batch will start this weekend.

BTW they also sold large bags of "pipe" tobacco in classic, smooth and menthol for around $12. I debated on getting one of those. Six Nations was the brand IIRC. I never paid much attention to RYO before.

 

[johni]

Got my box of joy from WL today. Stopped by the smoke shop and all they had in a pouch was Organic Am Spirit. $9.61 for the 1.4 ounce seemed a bit steep but I bought it anyway. Some methods say an ounce and some say 15 grams. I assume this is by weight. I have a small diet scale but not sure how accurate it is.

First batch will start this weekend.

BTW they also sold large bags of "pipe" tobacco in classic, smooth and menthol for around $12. I debated on getting one of those. Six Nations was the brand IIRC. I never paid much attention to RYO before.

Cool! You're on your way man. Put a package in the mail for you today.

 

[PaulBHC]

That's even cooler, thanks!

 

[PaulBHC]

I dumped the pouch into a tub and loosely packed a 1/2 cup measure. That way I have a repeatable method. Probably about a 1/4 to 1/3 of the 1.4oz pouch. Placed it loose in a small mason jar (looks like one cup, half pint), it levels near the top. Poured in the PG enough to cover.

 

[johni]

That sounds a little weak Paul. I usually use a full ounce in a half pint. It's not a problem but your extract will be a bit weaker and you'll have to use more to make juice.

 

[PaulBHC]

I didn't pack it into the jar. Should I try to get another 1/2 cup in there? IOW about a cup of tobacco in a one cup jar? Or wait till tomorrow and see how much sucked up?

 

[PaulBHC]

Actually weaker may be ok. Assuming for the moment that I need 25%, I have 48mg nic PG, could use 25% and 50% VG for about a 12mg 50/50 final product. We currently vape 18 and are talking about going down to 12.

 

[johni]

I wouldn't pack it. Give it a day and see if the tobacco is just barely covered. It takes a little experimentation to work it all out.

 

[PaulBHC]

I went ahead (before your reply) and pushed another 1/2 cup in the jar, then added more PG. I noticed that the first batch was floating in the PG and about a half inch or more above the bottom of the jar. The new batch is still below the top of the jar so I think it will be ok. There is probably another 1/2 cup left in the tub which would be about right for one ounce plus .4oz left from the original 1.4oz pouch.

 

[johni]

Should be amazing in about a month.

 

[PaulBHC]

One of the reasons for using the measuring cup is so that I can use other jars. I only have the one mason jar but have lots of other jars of various sizes. Then if I buy a bag of loose I have an idea of how much to put in a jar or try a double batch.

Should be amazing in about a month.

Do I really have to wait? lol