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I'm guessing that they (innokin) are sourcing their bits from different sources and/or making in-house revisions. The results are what we are seeing in the OP's photos.
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I ordered mine Friday so I'm interested to see what I get from fasttech. I didn't order the kit, rather I ordered the tube only and ordered the battery/charger from a US supplier. While I trust fasttech and I know I didn't need all of the kit that it came with, I dont trust Chinese batteries or chargers, so I ordered those separately from a US supplier. I'll be interested to see what comes in the box next week.
Im not sure if they are fake maybe just hidden inprovements over time like different version under the same name or fasttech would be taken down i guess
Copyright laws in China don't really exist per se, so I would very much doubt if Fasttech would be taken down for selling fake goods.
Fasttech sell lots of different items like knock off Protanks and the like, they'd just say if they were copies as opposed to originals - that's what they do with all the rest of the generic stuff.
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There seem to be so many inconsistencies in design from one vendor to the next that after seeing all the pictures from different vendors I'd say its Innoken using different suppliers for their production. Even reputable reviewers have pointed out differences in models that have been produced. The most noted change in design has been the threading on the battery tube.
Chinese manufacturers are anything but consistent and I don't see why Innokin would be any different.
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I think this is probably the case;
I think this is probably the case;
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Innokin probably made some design changes to the device after some feedback from reviewers. Case in point: watch Busardo's review on it. He points out some significant design flaws. One in particular, how the + and - buttons should be reversed when holding the device horizontally while reading the screen. Innokin actually responded to his advice and agreed to reevaluate the design.
My SVD came from FT and when I'm holding it horizontally to read the screen, my + button is on top and my - button is on bottom, unlike the one Busardo reviewed.
Not trying to shoot your theory down...it's your choice to buy or not buy from FT or any other company again, but I think people are leary about buying from Chinese suppliers because they have a reputation of making fakes. The deciding factor there is always price. With the exception of a few 100% American companies, in the vaping community the big one would be Provari, 90% of everything is 'Made in China' anyway. Made = produced. Produced = built.
My SVD from there is a month old and works perfect. My Vamo from there is 7 weeks old and works perfect. My Provari from my local shop is a month old and works perfect. I have no complaints.
Just my $.02
*sent from a Galaxy not so far away*
My SVD came from FT and when I'm holding it horizontally to read the screen, my + button is on top and my - button is on bottom, unlike the one Busardo reviewed.
Not trying to shoot your theory down...it's your choice to buy or not buy from FT or any other company again, but I think people are leary about buying from Chinese suppliers because they have a reputation of making fakes. The deciding factor there is always price. With the exception of a few 100% American companies, in the vaping community the big one would be Provari, 90% of everything is 'Made in China' anyway. Made = produced. Produced = built.
My SVD from there is a month old and works perfect. My Vamo from there is 7 weeks old and works perfect. My Provari from my local shop is a month old and works perfect. I have no complaints.
Just my $.02
*sent from a Galaxy not so far away*
Same here my FT "copy" looks like the op's legit one. These are manufacturing variations due to several factors. If you want to get the same exact unit as someone else than buy a more expensive APV with better quality control. I have 4 Provari's and they are all version 2 and every unit is identical except the color. Just sayin!! I will add I am perfectly happy with my FT SVD!
The OP is wrong.
(Though the intention and work gone into that post is well appreciated)
Fasttech doesn't sell fakes. It's just a matter of 'branded' vs. 'non-branded' items and the conundrum of design / material changes between various runs of a product.
If they list an item with a brand name viz. Kanger, Joyetech, Innokin, Vision etc. it can be safely assumed coming genuinely from those factories. As safe as ordering such products from any other reputable & 'known' vendor.
While they also stock unbranded products... however, they are candid at not listing them under any brand name. Such stuff are fetched from a myriad of Chinese plants, some of which might be producing clones... but Fasttech ensures that they do not carry the original manufacturer's name, logo, insignia or tagline.
Warranties, Refunds & Returns
Besides, every item from Fasttech carries 6-months warranty. And 3-months of no-frills return - with return shipping borne by Fasttech (Return shipping reimbursement is USD 40 or 50% of the item's price, whichever is lower). While for smaller items (usually under $10) they don't even ask u to send it back; and just ship u another FOR FREE (I've received one such). Beat that for a/ny online vendor!
I don't work for Fasttech, but have been a prolific shopper there (39 packages to this day) between vape related and non-vape stuff... and I've only good words for this amazing B2B site. So does Joe Petner, who's a reputed figure in our vape circle - AND wouldn't pimp Fasttech if he wasn't convinced himself.
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Ps.: Brickbats and accolades welcome
(Though the intention and work gone into that post is well appreciated)
Fasttech doesn't sell fakes. It's just a matter of 'branded' vs. 'non-branded' items and the conundrum of design / material changes between various runs of a product.
If they list an item with a brand name viz. Kanger, Joyetech, Innokin, Vision etc. it can be safely assumed coming genuinely from those factories. As safe as ordering such products from any other reputable & 'known' vendor.
While they also stock unbranded products... however, they are candid at not listing them under any brand name. Such stuff are fetched from a myriad of Chinese plants, some of which might be producing clones... but Fasttech ensures that they do not carry the original manufacturer's name, logo, insignia or tagline.
Warranties, Refunds & Returns
Besides, every item from Fasttech carries 6-months warranty. And 3-months of no-frills return - with return shipping borne by Fasttech (Return shipping reimbursement is USD 40 or 50% of the item's price, whichever is lower). While for smaller items (usually under $10) they don't even ask u to send it back; and just ship u another FOR FREE (I've received one such). Beat that for a/ny online vendor!
I don't work for Fasttech, but have been a prolific shopper there (39 packages to this day) between vape related and non-vape stuff... and I've only good words for this amazing B2B site. So does Joe Petner, who's a reputed figure in our vape circle - AND wouldn't pimp Fasttech if he wasn't convinced himself.
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Ps.: Brickbats and accolades welcome
The OP is wrong.
(Though the intention and work gone into that post is well appreciated)
Fasttech doesn't sell fakes. It's just a matter of 'branded' vs. 'non-branded' items and the conundrum of design / material changes between various runs of a product.
If they list an item with a brand name viz. Kanger, Joyetech, Innokin, Vision etc. it can be safely assumed coming genuinely from those factories. As safe as ordering such products from any other reputable & 'known' vendor.
While they also stock unbranded products... however, they are candid at not listing them under any brand name. Such stuff are fetched from a myriad of Chinese plants, some of which might be producing clones... but Fasttech ensures that they do not carry the original manufacturer's name, logo, insignia or tagline.
Warranties, Refunds & Returns
Besides, every item from Fasttech carries 6-months warranty. And 3-months of no-frills return - with return shipping borne by Fasttech (Return shipping reimbursement is USD 40 or 50% of the item's price, whichever is lower). While for smaller items (usually under $10) they don't even ask u to send it back; and just ship u another FOR FREE (I've received one such). Beat that for a/ny online vendor!
I don't work for Fasttech, but have been a prolific shopper there (39 packages to this day) between vape related and non-vape stuff... and I've only good words for this amazing B2B site. So does Joe Petner, who's a reputed figure in our vape circle - AND wouldn't pimp Fasttech if he wasn't convinced himself.
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Ps.: Brickbats and accolades welcome
I'm not doubting what you say is true nor do I believe that the FT version is a "fake" but FT does clearly advertise and lists the item as an Innokin iTaste SVD. If you look at the pictures attached to the item, the logo is on the box as well.
http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/...in-itaste-svd-telescoping-variable-voltage-el
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It's absolutely true that some Chinese manufacturers will state that a vendor is selling "fakes" if they don't stick the recommended retail.
There's a vendor here in Ireland that was selling Evic's for €64, next thing his store appears on the list of vendors selling counterfeit Joyetech products.
I know with 100% certainty that this particular vendor was selling genuine product.
As ........ and qorax state - the SVD's that Fasttech sell are completely legit.
There's a vendor here in Ireland that was selling Evic's for €64, next thing his store appears on the list of vendors selling counterfeit Joyetech products.
I know with 100% certainty that this particular vendor was selling genuine product.
As ........ and qorax state - the SVD's that Fasttech sell are completely legit.
Yup, sorry people I guess I jumped to conclusions too fast! It just didn't occur to me there could be so many differences between two units...
But whatever, I love my SVD
Don't you mean SVD(s)??
I don't know of if it has been touched on. But maybe want Fastech sells are the devices that are say rejects. So that's why they can sell much lower....
I think if they sold rejects they would get a stack of complaints and bad reviews, which they haven't had.
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