FDA Congress can stop this thing?
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This is "for the children" after all.
Don't forget a "Save the Grandparents" too.....
LOL! Killing time in a meeting a few years back while waiting for other participants to join the conference bridge, the discussion went to property taxes and particular a large increase that was going to be voted on in the next election. A lady I worked with was appalled that I was against it.
"How can you be against children getting a better education?"
"I'm not. I'm against bad teachers not being able to be fired, and administrators getting bigger and bigger paychecks. More money just makes it easier to justify keeping teachers that suck. The politicians don't necessarily want better education, they just want more money to buy votes with and use the 'for the children' line to gain the support of grandparents and stupid people."
She turned red, sputtered something about me being an uncaring monster and walked out.
LOL! Speaking of which, she sent me a connection request on LinkedIn this week and I think wants me to endorse her for some skills. I wonder if 'Useful Idiot' is one of them...
I dare you to post that in the 'Outside.' You'll be burned at the stake for being 'racist.'Always thought Robert A. Heinlein had it right, solve a simple quadratic equation, you get to vote...wrong answer, better luck next year....
Always thought Robert A. Heinlein had it right, solve a simple quadratic equation, you get to vote...wrong answer, better luck next year....
Yeah... In Many ways, Heinlein was a Stranger in a Strange Land.
Always thought Robert A. Heinlein had it right, solve a simple quadratic equation, you get to vote...wrong answer, better luck next year....
Not even that. If they could only explain what political socialization is. Or even give the name of the current Secretary Of Defence. Any answer other than political cognition, attitudes, and behaviors formed at the age 12 to 30, or the current SOD is Chuck Hagel then they are not qualified to vote. May be better if they just stick with voting on American Idol..lol
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I tend to stay in here with the adults. The outside is mainly baiters with chips on their shoulders. Not all but mostly the anti religious and those that are inept at debating a political position. They tend to know all of the shutdown lines, but not much else. I think they just do that because it makes them feel somewhat powerful. If I wanted to debate with asses I would debate in a barn.
I would say VA hospitals are not a top 10 item, and yet here we are today with it being treated as if job creation and economy need to take a back seat to this issue, which both sides magically agree on.
Correct, but we can change this. A CTA by CASAA would change this. Won't make it top 10 item, but would allow our voice, the one that opposes ANTZ rhetoric, to be heard in a way that is currently not present in DC.
I mostly agree, but the reason certain items are top 10 is because of 'average voter intelligence.' Economy and jobs will likely always be top 5 because average intelligence realizes it needs to be that way.
Don't need to read 214 pages to realize what ANTZ is spouting is deceptive. Harkin's comments weren't off base just to average pro-vaper, but to common sense, like when he was holding up USB plug and acting like no one on the planet, other than young people, would know or care how to use such a thing. When he kept harping on idea of regulating as drug delivery device, and then told by own staffer that, 'd'oh, I guess maybe not,' he was visibly off base. Harkin's stuff would be easy for anyone 8th grade and up to spot as off base, while Burr's comments would likely be the sort that would either take some repetition (from national politicians) or pro-vaping intelligence to realize how spot on they were.
Nothing for me to debate on this point.
I tend to stay in here with the adults. The outside is mainly baiters with chips on their shoulders. Not all but mostly the anti religious and those that are inept at debating a political position. They tend to know all of the shutdown lines, but not much else. I think they just do that because it makes them feel somewhat powerful. If I wanted to debate with asses I would debate in a barn.
I'm Not Sure If I could have said that Better Myself.
The OUTSIDE should have this as their Offical Logo...
I find this interesting. If you do a search on 'light cigarettes regulation', you have to dig deep to find gov't influence. Most articles will state that the tobacco companies 'developed' light cigarettes themselves and to some extent that is true. But the influence of the National Cancer Institute, ACA, NHI and others led to the FTC getting involved, and the Dept of Agriculture.
"Tar and nicotine yields have historically been measured by a standardized machine testing regimen - the FTC test method - also known internationally as the ISO (for International Organization for Standardisation) machine-smoking method. This method, adopted in 1967, determines the yield of a cigarette by smoking it on a machine, in a standardized fashion, according to a predetermined protocol. The smoking machine is calibrated to take one puff of 2-second duration and 35-ml volume every minute; cigarettes are smoked to a .... length of 23 mm or to the length of the overwrap plus 3 mm, whichever is longer. These parameters were determined by a U.S. Department of Agriculture tobacco chemist so as to constitute an average of his observations of human smoking behavior. The FTC test method provided a uniform analytical procedure that could be replicated in different laboratories simultaneously and in the same laboratory over time."
http://cancercontrol.cancer.gov/brp/tcrb/documents/Backinger111307.pdf
Even though the doc is how ultimately 'light' cigarettes didn't work and how tobacco companies promoted them as 'better'. Those promotions were based on the method above, and in the 60's it is likely that there were some 'bullying' (threats) by gov't agencies for the tobacco companies to 'do something or else' and their solution, with which gov't at the time had no problem, was later shown by ANTZ (quit or die) types that the low tar was not effective, of course. As a light, then ultra light smoker, one could definitely tell the difference. It didn't stop me from smoking but it cut the morning cough down and if I ran out and had to smoke a non-light cig, I could tell the difference immediately. Whether it was less harmful, I don't really know. All I know is that lights were smoother.
Does anyone remember when this came out:
Yet they all got away with that and only had to pay a court fee. I don't see false claims by vendors that make e-liquids, yet they have these knee jerk reactions to flavors and that e-liquids and e-cigs are not regulated. Mind boggling to say the least.
Yet they all got away with that and only had to pay a court fee. I don't see false claims by vendors that make e-liquids, yet they have these knee jerk reactions to flavors and that e-liquids and e-cigs are not regulated. Mind boggling to say the least.
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They're addressing a decades old problem, and likely will be forgotten by the end of the summer, the vets usually are.
So we should have a majority of CSPAN viewers on our side, and if they were who decided elections and how the bureaucracy regulated, the country would be in much better shape overall....
The ANTZ have multiple local organizations, organized through statewide organizations, getting their marching orders from the national ALA, AMA, ACA, etc....
I'm still rooting for, supporting, disseminating information for, the Yankee Doodle rebels in this fight but I'm terrified of the cannon pointing at us at this point.
Pelosi: "... if you want to be creative and be a musician or whatever, you can leave your work, focus on your talent, your skill, your passion, your aspirations because you will have health care. You wont have to be job locked.
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