Consider slowing your Fasttech roll

[hottierockstar]

All I was trying to say before the unreasonable people came into post in this thread was that you might be better served to hear my opinion that it might be a good idea to try and sift through the FT stuff that is crap and what is not crap, than just assume it's all a good deal.

that isn't exclusive to FT....or vaping...BUT it is part of vaping as a whole....like i said before...I paid what i consider WAY too much for stuff i hated...trying to figure out what works for me and what doesn't.
I don't think anyone is expecting to LIVE in their items purchased at FT. investment versus trial.....

 

[Vapor Vinny]

Kia's have a 7 year warranty, unlucky for him it's 8 years old. Not the best analogy really as there are many variables with old cars, such as service history, how it's been driven etc.

How were FastTech when you reported the issues you had?

I don't have an issue with FT's customer service. If you look back, I was one of the first people here singing their praises. And I still do. My point is a cost effectiveness/quality point. It's not really that complicated.

But to answer your question, FT has never responded to any complaint or inquiry I have sent. And I didn't press them on the issue or demand a refund. I will tell you that it took them quite awhile to post my one negative review at their site.

 

[Ref Minor]

There are tons of Fasstech fanboy threads on this forum. Apparently, those folks cannot tolerate one dissenting thread. I'm not telling any lies. And despite what some have suggested, I have no agenda here.

There is one active FT thread in here, the previous one was closed due to people jumping on it to say don't buy from a Chinese vendor buy from an American one. People do recommend FT products in other threads, generally when they have used them themselves or when the OP has cost concerns. Yet apparently, you cannot tolerate that.

 

[hottierockstar]

No. An easier alternative is to buy a better Chinese made product from anywhere. It's a cost effectiveness issue. I like to use tanks as an example. Because that's what I mostly use. There are these tanks....

http://.........blogspot.com/2013/03/chrome-artemas-locking-510-dct-808.html

and then there are these tanks...

$2.86 DCT Electronic Cigarettes Round Mouth Dual Heating Core Atomizer (Small) - black at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

There is no comparison in quality and yes, the more expensive one is the more cost effective one....

Now, if you just have to have that FT tank, and you see the same one at American site for $3 more, you'd be a fool not to buy from FT. But in the end, you're still going to be wasting money and you're still buying junk, in my opinion.

There are many other similar examples when it comes to some of the stuff FT sells.

Now, I'm considering buying a VAMO. If I do, I will buy it from FT unless someone convinces me that what they're selling is an inferior knock off.

heh...i actually have a smok DCT which is just like the artemas that i paid $10+tax....AND the FT tank....guess which one doesn't leak or flood my carto AND works on all of my devices LOL

 

[Iffy]

My bottom line is that if I'm gonna get crap, I'd rather pay le$$ and not pay for the $hipping! Ergo, I'll continue to shop at FT...

 

[Vapor Vinny]

There is one active FT thread in here, the previous one was closed due to people jumping on it to say don't buy from a Chinese vendor buy from an American one. People do recommend FT products in other threads, generally when they have used them themselves or when the OP has cost concerns. Yet apparently, you cannot tolerate that.

Keep reading. There are considerably more threads dedicated to FT. And then there's this one lonesome thread, that doesn't even bash FT, but is dedicated to some of it's shortcomings...And then there's you bro...With your flamethrower

And please stop framing my statements in a way that is convenient to you. I'm not remotely suggesting what you're suggesting I'm suggesting.

 

[Vapor Vinny]

My bottom line is that if I'm gonna get crap, I'd rather pay le$$ and not pay for the $hipping! Ergo, I'll continue to shop at FT...

And that's a pretty reasonable way to look at it.

 

[DeeDee1234]

I don't have an issue with FT's customer service. If you look back, I was one of the first people here singing their praises. And I still do. My point is a cost effectiveness/quality point. It's not really that complicated.

But to answer your question, FT has never responded to any complaint or inquiry I have sent. And I didn't press them on the issue or demand a refund. I will tell you that it took them quite awhile to post my one negative review at their site.

Are you telling me to just get a PROVARI?

 

[Maggiemw]

IMHO, we seem to be prone to hasty generalizations, making sweeping statements pro and/or con, based on a very, very limited number of cases. Which is a Logic 101 basic error. If I've only got a super-limited amount of experience with something, I simply can't deduce a general rule, or a full-fledged truth, from it. I can form an opinion (and I probably will!!!) but an out-an-out truth, no way.

My experience: my first FT package arrived today and I am very, very pleased with the results so far. My new iTaste VV set works very well and is fun to play with. It meets my expectations, and is actually heavier, better designed and ...prettier... than I expected, since in any case I had only photos, good reviews and my fantasies to base my expectations on.

Will it still be working in 6 months' time? I am no prophet, so how can I make any sort of prediction? Will I be around in 6 months? I can hope so, and work toward surviving and keeping my equipment in good working order, but what do I control in the universe?

So, as to conclusions: hasty generalizations are a no-no. Market research and reasonable expectations are a yes-yes. The universe is a random, chancey place - stay out of the way of rampaging buses and rhinos.

 

[Vapor Vinny]

heh...i actually have a smok DCT which is just like the artemas that i paid $10+tax....AND the FT tank....guess which one doesn't leak or flood my carto AND works on all of my devices LOL

Yes...you got me...Those second tanks sold by FT, and a whole lot of other people also, are superior.

If you got one that leaked, get your money back. As for performance, isn't that a product of the cartomizer? If you're trying to tell me that FT's replacement tank carts are good and work well, then I really have to start ignoring your opinion all together. They are very bad and flawed from the start, by their ridiculously terrible design. How many have you purchased? Where is your review at FT?

 

[Vapor Vinny]

Are you telling me to just get a PROVARI?

Huh? I'm not interested in a provari. I build my own mods that I'll put up against anything. And only cost me about $15 to build. I do buy ego stuff and use. Those Riva 510s sold by Liberty Flights were/are a great deal. They are beasts in terms of longevity.

 

[Ref Minor]

Keep reading. There are considerably more threads dedicated to FT.

Which is why I specifically used the word "active". This is an established forum, there are multiple threads for any topic you wish to choose.

 

[hottierockstar]

Yes...you got me...Those second tanks sold by FT, and a whole lot of other people also, are superior.

If you got one that leaked, get your money back. As for performance, isn't that a product of the cartomizer? If you're trying to tell me that FT's replacement tank carts are good and work well, then I really have to start ignoring your opinion all together. They are very bad and flawed from the start, by their ridiculously terrible design. How many have you purchased? Where is your review at FT?

I have 5 in total 3 large, 2 small a few that i haven't yet used. i do not use the FT cartomizers with the tanks i purchased. The tanks i have are not flawed....unlike the smok pyrex tanks i have that i spent too much money on that will not accept my carto of choice despite it being a standard carto and the description of the tank saying that it takes standard cartos....
no...a cartomizer cannot make a cartomizer flood without human intervention like over priming or over punching....an air leak in the tank can..which i haven't experienced with the FT tanks...but DID with the smok UDCT

ok...i think i am now done with you. i must have gotten under your skin (where is a place i really have no desire to be)
i have been nothing but respectful and participatory in your thread....you basically just came at me and called me stupid for having a good experience with a >$3 item.

 

[pcrdude]

For those of you who want other opinions besides how the OP feels, you can see those other opinions (and how Fast Tech responds) here:

FastTech Reviews - fasttech.com Ratings at ResellerRatings

I wonder if vinny works for Innokin....

JUST KIDDING VINNY

 

[J.R. Bob Dobbs]

I like their CE5+ clearos. Those have worked great and I ordered many more. The vivi novas and CE4s I have are crap. Real crap. One of the vivi novas won't even open so I can fill it. It's like it's glued shut.

I'm done experimenting with clearos, frankly. They're so hit and miss.

get a protank...its a clearo and very reliable. Does not mute flavor and vapes like a freight train! Oh and the glass is pyrex so it will not crack because you put acidic juice in it.

 

[Vapor Vinny]

For those of you who want other opinions besides how the OP feels, you can see those other opinions (and how Fast Tech responds) here:

FastTech Reviews - fasttech.com Ratings at ResellerRatings

I wonder if vinny works for Innokin....

JUST KIDDING VINNY

Thanks for referring us to alternative takes on FT. They were getting hard to find.

I do work for Innokin and we do not authorize any of our products sold by FT.

 

[Vapor Vinny]

get a protank...its a clearo and very reliable. Does not mute flavor and vapes like a freight train! Oh and the glass is pyrex so it will not crack because you put acidic juice in it.

Aren't the wicks exposed with Protanks? That seems to be the problem and why clearos are so hit and miss.

 

[DeeDee1234]

Aren't the wicks exposed with Protanks? That seems to be the problem and why clearos are so hit and miss.

exposed wicks?

 

[Vapor Vinny]

exposed wicks?

In other words, you can see them. Unlike the CE5+ which apparently uses wicks, but they are completely contained.

These are the replacement heads

http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10004027/1332301-ce5-ce6-electronic-cigarette-heating-core

 

[pcrdude]

Thanks for referring us to alternative takes on FT. They were getting hard to find.

I do work for Innokin and we do not authorize any of our products sold by FT.

Hard to find? I didn't have any problems finding good reviews of FT before I placed my first order with them.

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