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Sorry, for some reason I felt compelled to start with that. Reason for this post? I dated a girl many years ago that was into herbal remedies, natural cures, and the like. She wanted me to quit smoking and suggested I try a folk remedy. Specifically, she told me to drink an 8 oz. glass of water with several drops of pure lobelia extract in it 3 or 4 times a day and that would help me kick the habit. I was daring back then so I gave it a try. The water definitely had a nicotine flavor to it, but it didn't get me to stop smoking.
I had forgotten about that incident until about 30 minutes ago. I wondered about the possible use of lobelia with vaping. Part of my reasoning was the possibility of it supplying a healthy nicotine taste. At the very least, I felt it warranted a little research. Here's what I've found so far...
From: Herbal Remedies
Lobelia is an expectorant, diaphoretic and anti-asthmatic. Lobelia stimulates the relaxation response when stressed, decreasing adrenaline and opening the lungs and chest.
This tincture can be used as a local application for sprains, bruises, or skin diseases.
Some authorities attach great value to Lobelia Extract as an expectorant in bronchitis, others as a valuable counterirritant when combined with other ingredients in ointment form. Lobelia is sometimes given in convulsive and inflammatory disorders such as epilepsy, tetanus, diphtheria and tonsilitis. There is also difference of opinion with regard to Lobelia's narcotic properties. Where relaxation of the system is required, as, for instance, to subdue spasm, Lobelia is invaluable. Relaxation can be counteracted by the stimulating and tonic infusion of capsicum. Lobelia may be used as an enema.
Lobelia has been used as an expectorant for bronchitis. It has also been used to lessen the effects of epilepsy, diphtheria, and tonsillitis. The oil has been a valuable resource in treating tetanus. Lobelia is a sedative. Externally, an infusion of Lobelia can be used to treat ophthalmic disorders, and the tincture is used as a topical for sprains, bruises, or skin diseases. It has been suggested that Lobelia may reduce cravings and nervousness associated with smoking withdrawal.
Suggested Dosage and Use: 5-20 drops in water or juice 2-3 times daily or as needed
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From Lobelia inflata (Wikipedia)
Cultivation and uses
Lobelia inflata has a long use as an entheogenic substance. The plant was widely used by the Penobscots and was widely used in the New England even before the time of Samuel Thomson who was credited as discovering it. Indian tobacco is still used today. The most potent part of the plant is the seed as it contains the most lobeline, the main ingredient which gives the plant its pyschoactive property. It is sold widely in online herbal shops, and is prized among entheogen users. Its taste is reminiscent of real tobacco, acrid and burning, and it promotes the heavier flow of saliva. A common misconception is that when smoked it yields a euphoric "high" like feeling, when it actually produces a more relaxant like effect. It can be used fresh, or dry.
Lobelia inflata is also used by herbalists for treatment of asthma, hence its other nickname, asthma weed. Some make ointments of the plant to use externally.
It is also said that plant material is burned as a natural bug repellent to keep away insects such as mosquitoes.
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From: Good Herbal Health
Why Lobelia is Used to Quit Smoking
The remarkably effective Nicocure® patch utilizes the extracts from Lobelia inflata in order to help people quit smoking. Lobelia is, so far, the most widely-accepted medicinal plant used to address the smoking addiction.
People cannot quit smoking not because of a lack of intention, but because of the inability to deal with intoxication, addiction, and withdrawal symptoms. Some of them resort to nicotine gums in which the smoking is avoided but the nicotine addiction continues.
The good news is that there is now an effective way to quit smoking along with stopping the nicotine addiction. The product is called the Nicocure® patch, and this utilizes natural ingredients, the extracts of Lobelia inflata.
The Lobelia inflata is commonly known as Indian tobacco and it is abundantly cultivated in the Eastern parts of the United States. This medicinal plant can also be grown in other areas. The alkaloids found in the Lobelia extract are called piperidine alkaloids, which components are primarily lobeline, lobelanidine, lobelanine, and minor amounts of norlobelanine (also called isolobelanine), lelobanidine, lovinine, isolobinine, lobinanidine and other Chelidonic acid.
But how does the Lobelia help to effectively quit smoking? There are two major reasons:
1. The Lobelia inflata has lobeline, an alkaloid. It is an expectorant that can clear the passages of the lungs. Once the lungs are clean, the taste of cigarette and smoke becomes disagreeable. The smoker who is trying to quit will have the same irritated reaction of non-smokers to the smell of smoke . The smell of smoke will make him or her dizzy or nauseous. This is why the lobeline is known as a smoking deterrent and a stimulant.
2. The Lobelia inflata has isolobelanine, another alkaloid. It is known as a relaxant. That is, it makes the central and autonomic nervous system loosen up and ease the tension. This effect is useful for treating people with asthma and bronchitis. And it is also effective for calming the nerves of people who suffer withdrawal symptoms when they quit smoking. Together with lobeline, the isolobelanine help people effectively stop nicotine addiction.
The Lobelia extract has been found to be useful in treating other illnesses. It has been recommended for people with spasmodic asthma, whooping cough, spasmodic croup, membranous croup, infantile convulsions, hysterical convulsions, diphtheria, tonsillitis, and pneumonia.
The Lobelia-rich Nicocure® patch is convenient to use. One patch can be placed in a part of the body which is relatively free of hair, such as the inner arm. This patch stays for twenty-four hours, and then replaced by another. Of course, the next patch must be placed in a different position to allow the skin to breathe.
While a person is trying to quit smoking, he must help clean his body by drinking lots of water. If he feels a craving for tobacco or cigarette smoke, he may turn to eating citrus fruits. This craving gradually decreases and eventually disappears.
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Now, if lobelia is a good alternative for smoking, would it help in the transition to a pv? Note that it increases saliva production which may offset the fact that PG dries the mouth and throat and it is a relaxant.
Thoughts?
Sorry, for some reason I felt compelled to start with that. Reason for this post? I dated a girl many years ago that was into herbal remedies, natural cures, and the like. She wanted me to quit smoking and suggested I try a folk remedy. Specifically, she told me to drink an 8 oz. glass of water with several drops of pure lobelia extract in it 3 or 4 times a day and that would help me kick the habit. I was daring back then so I gave it a try. The water definitely had a nicotine flavor to it, but it didn't get me to stop smoking.
I had forgotten about that incident until about 30 minutes ago. I wondered about the possible use of lobelia with vaping. Part of my reasoning was the possibility of it supplying a healthy nicotine taste. At the very least, I felt it warranted a little research. Here's what I've found so far...
From: Herbal Remedies
Lobelia is an expectorant, diaphoretic and anti-asthmatic. Lobelia stimulates the relaxation response when stressed, decreasing adrenaline and opening the lungs and chest.
This tincture can be used as a local application for sprains, bruises, or skin diseases.
Some authorities attach great value to Lobelia Extract as an expectorant in bronchitis, others as a valuable counterirritant when combined with other ingredients in ointment form. Lobelia is sometimes given in convulsive and inflammatory disorders such as epilepsy, tetanus, diphtheria and tonsilitis. There is also difference of opinion with regard to Lobelia's narcotic properties. Where relaxation of the system is required, as, for instance, to subdue spasm, Lobelia is invaluable. Relaxation can be counteracted by the stimulating and tonic infusion of capsicum. Lobelia may be used as an enema.
Lobelia has been used as an expectorant for bronchitis. It has also been used to lessen the effects of epilepsy, diphtheria, and tonsillitis. The oil has been a valuable resource in treating tetanus. Lobelia is a sedative. Externally, an infusion of Lobelia can be used to treat ophthalmic disorders, and the tincture is used as a topical for sprains, bruises, or skin diseases. It has been suggested that Lobelia may reduce cravings and nervousness associated with smoking withdrawal.
Suggested Dosage and Use: 5-20 drops in water or juice 2-3 times daily or as needed
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From Lobelia inflata (Wikipedia)
Cultivation and uses
Lobelia inflata has a long use as an entheogenic substance. The plant was widely used by the Penobscots and was widely used in the New England even before the time of Samuel Thomson who was credited as discovering it. Indian tobacco is still used today. The most potent part of the plant is the seed as it contains the most lobeline, the main ingredient which gives the plant its pyschoactive property. It is sold widely in online herbal shops, and is prized among entheogen users. Its taste is reminiscent of real tobacco, acrid and burning, and it promotes the heavier flow of saliva. A common misconception is that when smoked it yields a euphoric "high" like feeling, when it actually produces a more relaxant like effect. It can be used fresh, or dry.
Lobelia inflata is also used by herbalists for treatment of asthma, hence its other nickname, asthma weed. Some make ointments of the plant to use externally.
It is also said that plant material is burned as a natural bug repellent to keep away insects such as mosquitoes.
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From: Good Herbal Health
Why Lobelia is Used to Quit Smoking
The remarkably effective Nicocure® patch utilizes the extracts from Lobelia inflata in order to help people quit smoking. Lobelia is, so far, the most widely-accepted medicinal plant used to address the smoking addiction.
People cannot quit smoking not because of a lack of intention, but because of the inability to deal with intoxication, addiction, and withdrawal symptoms. Some of them resort to nicotine gums in which the smoking is avoided but the nicotine addiction continues.
The good news is that there is now an effective way to quit smoking along with stopping the nicotine addiction. The product is called the Nicocure® patch, and this utilizes natural ingredients, the extracts of Lobelia inflata.
The Lobelia inflata is commonly known as Indian tobacco and it is abundantly cultivated in the Eastern parts of the United States. This medicinal plant can also be grown in other areas. The alkaloids found in the Lobelia extract are called piperidine alkaloids, which components are primarily lobeline, lobelanidine, lobelanine, and minor amounts of norlobelanine (also called isolobelanine), lelobanidine, lovinine, isolobinine, lobinanidine and other Chelidonic acid.
But how does the Lobelia help to effectively quit smoking? There are two major reasons:
1. The Lobelia inflata has lobeline, an alkaloid. It is an expectorant that can clear the passages of the lungs. Once the lungs are clean, the taste of cigarette and smoke becomes disagreeable. The smoker who is trying to quit will have the same irritated reaction of non-smokers to the smell of smoke . The smell of smoke will make him or her dizzy or nauseous. This is why the lobeline is known as a smoking deterrent and a stimulant.
2. The Lobelia inflata has isolobelanine, another alkaloid. It is known as a relaxant. That is, it makes the central and autonomic nervous system loosen up and ease the tension. This effect is useful for treating people with asthma and bronchitis. And it is also effective for calming the nerves of people who suffer withdrawal symptoms when they quit smoking. Together with lobeline, the isolobelanine help people effectively stop nicotine addiction.
The Lobelia extract has been found to be useful in treating other illnesses. It has been recommended for people with spasmodic asthma, whooping cough, spasmodic croup, membranous croup, infantile convulsions, hysterical convulsions, diphtheria, tonsillitis, and pneumonia.
The Lobelia-rich Nicocure® patch is convenient to use. One patch can be placed in a part of the body which is relatively free of hair, such as the inner arm. This patch stays for twenty-four hours, and then replaced by another. Of course, the next patch must be placed in a different position to allow the skin to breathe.
While a person is trying to quit smoking, he must help clean his body by drinking lots of water. If he feels a craving for tobacco or cigarette smoke, he may turn to eating citrus fruits. This craving gradually decreases and eventually disappears.
---
Now, if lobelia is a good alternative for smoking, would it help in the transition to a pv? Note that it increases saliva production which may offset the fact that PG dries the mouth and throat and it is a relaxant.
Thoughts?