All very true. I would recommend a higher nic liquid, or maybe a menthol if you can do it. I've been gaping for a year now and have had 3 cigarettes in that time. You usually will relapse, but mine just reinforced the fact that cigarettes stink and taste like crap. You'll be fine, gaping trumps smoking analogs any day. Good luck. Also, I'm a firm believer that you actually get more of a nicotine addiction from vaping, as this many cigarettes would make you sick. There's more in cigarettes than nicotine that you get addicted to, probably the formaldehyde!
Craving traditional cigs while drinking... HELP!
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I'm going with the point of "if you want an analog then smoke it" "NEVER COUNT THE ONES YOU SMOKE. ONLY COUNT THE ONES YOU DIDN'T". To this day I have times that I will set fire to something that I'm holding in my mouth and it usually happens when I'm drinking. Don't stress about it. Like was said earlier. vaping is suppose to be relaxing. Just don't give up. Ask for help from the forum when you need it.
drinking and starting vaping, now thats it my wheelhouse.Took me about a month of carrying a pack of smokes with me to a bar with my pv always concerned that if it broke what would I vape /smoke?Watching others smoke while a pv was new to me made it not only self consious but deeply craving for ease of use.Its a fun ride to vaping instead of smoking that for me was as much about my gear working as wanting a smoke.Had my nose bleed from an old funky friends pv , and also almost lit my self on fire from my misuse of a pv in my pocket the first week while on a bar stool.Higher nic is a golden idea for sure, but for me it was liking vaping over smoking that told me smoking was done.For me in public the best reply to why do you vape is, "its just another way to enjoy nic while drinking" , not one smoker doesn't understand that.Hope that helps, for liking vaping over smoking, get a ton of juices and see if one ends the question of vaping or smoking. hope all goes well.
One thing that helped me was to remove all traces of cigarettes from the house. Stash away lighters, ash trays, cig packs, anything related to cigs.
While drinking is when I too have issue with remaining smoke free, but I noticed that most of the time when I do smoke it's because I see an ash tray and immediately think of smoking, or see something that tips me off. Kind of like how when you are sitting through a long movie and you see someone light up a cig on screen and then the only thing you can think about for the rest of the movie is going out to smoke when it's done.
If you are at the house of someone else, or in public obviously this wont work, as you don't really have the right to go around changing the decor as you see fit.
I'm going to start drinking as soon as company arrives so hopefully I'll be able to hold out tonight
While drinking is when I too have issue with remaining smoke free, but I noticed that most of the time when I do smoke it's because I see an ash tray and immediately think of smoking, or see something that tips me off. Kind of like how when you are sitting through a long movie and you see someone light up a cig on screen and then the only thing you can think about for the rest of the movie is going out to smoke when it's done.
If you are at the house of someone else, or in public obviously this wont work, as you don't really have the right to go around changing the decor as you see fit.
I'm going to start drinking as soon as company arrives so hopefully I'll be able to hold out tonight
what thrasher said..... agreed, but I beat this problem by finding some harshy, rough, smoky juice, putting it into a lower resistance clearo for a warmer smoke so I could feel it like i did chaining cigs when I was out drinking, being able to get that hot rough hit stopped me from wanting the cig. 
It is truly hard to just walk away from analogs but stick with it. Once you find some really tasty juice it gets a lot easier and cigs taste start tasting bad. If your mind is set, your journey will be successful. Good luck!
i use to love smoking while drinking alcohol and coffee i dont drink coffee near as much as i use too but i drink the same. ive had a puff off a analog when i was drunk and it tasted like dog s#@$ youll get over them
Wow, there are some really great tips & words of encouragement here. Thank you to all!
Just a quick update, I got thru the wkend smoking only 3 traditional cigs. Waaaay less than typical for me. (Usually have 1-2 packs on a wkend where I'll have drinks.) They didn't even taste that good compared to my ejuices... I enjoyed them far less than I had built them up in my craving mind.
I went back to my B&M on Saturday and explained my issues to a really awesome employee who advised me to "step up & slow down". I was at 16mg before & on my PV CONSTANTLY Friday night. So I stepped up to 24mg strength & noticed an immediate difference. I spent the rest of Saturday & Sunday casually vaping 24mg without any of the cravings & urgency I had on Friday night. Haven't smoked an analog since Friday. =] Thanks again for all the help!
Also, I surprisingly didn't have that bad of a hangover from drinking & vaping. I adore wheat beers (hefeweizen & Belgian witbiers), but am working out so I Light Beer-ed it all night... plenty of water in those things. I'm also a big believer in drinking a big glass of water before passing out, usually helps with the dreaded dehydration hangover. So I'd call my 1st drinking & vaping night a success.
Many thanks, ~missy~
Just a quick update, I got thru the wkend smoking only 3 traditional cigs. Waaaay less than typical for me. (Usually have 1-2 packs on a wkend where I'll have drinks.) They didn't even taste that good compared to my ejuices... I enjoyed them far less than I had built them up in my craving mind.
I went back to my B&M on Saturday and explained my issues to a really awesome employee who advised me to "step up & slow down". I was at 16mg before & on my PV CONSTANTLY Friday night. So I stepped up to 24mg strength & noticed an immediate difference. I spent the rest of Saturday & Sunday casually vaping 24mg without any of the cravings & urgency I had on Friday night. Haven't smoked an analog since Friday. =] Thanks again for all the help!
Also, I surprisingly didn't have that bad of a hangover from drinking & vaping. I adore wheat beers (hefeweizen & Belgian witbiers), but am working out so I Light Beer-ed it all night... plenty of water in those things.
I'm also a big believer in drinking a big glass of water before passing out, usually helps with the dreaded dehydration hangover. So I'd call my 1st drinking & vaping night a success.Many thanks, ~missy~
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Way to go.
That last day I smoked cigarettes I only did them after vaping and noticed they didn't do anything and didn't taste good, that really helps with dropping them.
That last day I smoked cigarettes I only did them after vaping and noticed they didn't do anything and didn't taste good, that really helps with dropping them.
This is day 2 for me on PV. My experience has been amazing so far. As a traditional cig smoker, I got down to the point of only smoking when drinking or seriously stressed. So maybe 2 days a week at the most, (I called it binge smoking). Since I got my ecig, I notice I've been vaping waaay more often than I ever smoked. But like I told my DH, when he got his tobacco pipe he spent a week outside chain smoking... I'm playing with my new toy. And it's been awesome!
But now we're having some Friday night beers. And suddenly the urge to smoke a traditional cig is killing me! I keep taking drags off my ecig, (I'm chain vaping), but the desire to break down and smoke a traditional cig is crazy STRONG. Any tips, tricks, or experience with this?
My last day to traditionally smoke was 11-7, I'd really hate to go back to square one.
Thanks, ~missy~
You're doing great! Don't beat yourself up about cheating, it took me almost 2 years to get it right... but do think of all the money you will save being off the cancer sticks.
I'm not very far ahead of you... I started vaping Dec. 2009. It's been on again, off again for almost 2 years. I had a couple different motivators to get me to hang up the analogs for good this time (I Pray,) on September 1st of 2012.
Motivator #1.) The National Transportation Safety bill was signed by Congress. (... does this have to do with Smoking Kerri?) It ran the place that was selling me cartons of roll your own smokes for $32 bucks a piece, out of business by taxing them as manufacturers rather than a service provider or retailer. They slapped an additional $25 bucks a carton tax on them and all the RYO shops in my area went out of business. Damned shame too these were great people, just trying to make a living and the government gave them their tobacco retailers license and then pulled the rug out from under them 1 year later and long before they'd recouped their startup costs and 30k investment for a machine. (but I digress)
Motivator #2) I broke my right wrist in mid August and was told by the surgeon that put me back together again, (with the addition of a titanium plate and 7 screws,) that my bones won't heal well because I smoke.
Motivator #3) Potential savings of $800 + Dollars per month on ciggs alone. (My husband also quit at the same time.)
Motivator #4) Self employed Health Insurance is expensive $1350 a month for two, not-quite-50-year-old smokers. Rumor has it that if you're nicotine free for 1 year, rates will drop by almost 50% (this remains to be seen, but that plus the savings on smokes would pay for one hell of a vacation.)
Motivator #5) Health
How did I do this? I smoked about 2&1/2 packs a day but it was actually pretty easy this time. (I've quit before, but went back to it on a really bad day.) I stocked up on attys, DIY Liquid accessories and 3 months worth of nicotine patches.
I was a heavy enough smoker that I could vape while wearing a full strength patch, (without getting dizzy or worse.) I put on the patch and followed the basic instructions except that I vaped a bit when I had cravings: in the car, after meals, when angry, upset etc. (I can't drive a damned car without chain smoking on something.) I mixed my own e liquid to start at about 30-32 mg.
If you're supplementing your nicotine with another method, 16 mg might be fine for you, but it's obviously not enough on it's own. (You may want to check with your doctor on this and make certain he/she thinks that it would be safe for you to use a patch or gum and vape at the same time.
One sneaky little trick I figured out with the patch: If you buy the right kind of patches, (Equate brand from walmart work fine and they're inexpensive,) you can "Step Down" by simply cutting the patch in half and then quarters or 1/3's. Why pay the same price for a patch with less nicotine? You do want to make certain that the patches you get are the ones where the nicotine is in the glue and not on a pad with the sticky stuff surrounding it. (Those style don't stick well if cut.)
The last thing I can suggest is Deep breathing exercises. Whenever I get really stressed or ticked off, I will do some deep breathing exercises. Take a 10 second inhale through your nose... Count to 10 in your head while inhaling, taking care to inflate your belly before you inflate your chest. (Pretend there's a valve on your belly button and the air is coming directly in from there.) Exhale through your mouth while also counting to 10. Try and make both the inhale and the exhale smooth, deep and long. Do this about 3 times and you can take on the world. It's about oxygenating your brain, changing your focus at the same time.
What ever you decide to do or method you choose, NEVER GIVE UP QUITTING. You can do this and when you do reward yourself with something really special.
NIce to meet you...
Kerri (Adventure Dog)
This is day 2 for me on PV. My experience has been amazing so far. As a traditional cig smoker, I got down to the point of only smoking when drinking or seriously stressed. So maybe 2 days a week at the most, (I called it binge smoking). Since I got my ecig, I notice I've been vaping waaay more often than I ever smoked. But like I told my DH, when he got his tobacco pipe he spent a week outside chain smoking... I'm playing with my new toy. And it's been awesome!
But now we're having some Friday night beers. And suddenly the urge to smoke a traditional cig is killing me! I keep taking drags off my ecig, (I'm chain vaping), but the desire to break down and smoke a traditional cig is crazy STRONG. Any tips, tricks, or experience with this?
My last day to traditionally smoke was 11-7, I'd really hate to go back to square one.
Thanks, ~missy~
Higher nic juice. You should keep on hand 6 - 12 - 18 and maybe 24mg juice on hand. I vape 18 mg when I drink and 12 most the rest of the time.
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