I was funin about the volts vs watts thing but we have to take in amps and battery sag. there can also be differences between two of the same mods. since I run kayfuns ,those finicky little things, the differences are more noticeable than a kabuki which to me is muted just a little. the kabuki is a great tank but it's limited to what you can do with an aspire coil. if a good rebuildable option becomes available I'll start using it again . off to prisnyland ttfn.