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I'm still confused by the request for a Ti Radius variant.
The Ti Provari tubes are on the order of OUNCES lighter than a Stainless tube body...
With the main housing of the Radius being fairly light Poly, how much lighter would a Ti variant be?
Ti just seems like overkill for the Radius.
Just my two cents.

Yeah. Guilty. It's reflexive to ask for Ti: probably wouldn't even be lighter.
 

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I don't think your taste is eccentric, at least not in this case. I was thinking they might have asked us for input, but then it occurred to me that we probably aren't the target demographic for this campaign. We all have ProVarii of one kind or another, so they know we're hooked. Perhaps they are trying to enlarge their customer base beyond us fuddy-duddy elitists.

Can you say Big in Japan?

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We should be the target demographic considering how many ProVari many of us own & also many of us aren't that close to pushing up daisies. For me, I need colors that pop & {IMO} this new collection is just so... bland.
 
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Take this in the humorous spirit it was meant, OK? But in some ways with some of you being disappointed with the new cases reminds me of a famous Dennis the Menace Christmas Cartoon:

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Hmmmm...how can I say this without coming off offensive to anyone????

I could see if there were a lot of options to choose from but there isn't. What's available may be right on the money for some; others not so much. From what I've been reading, it appears the disappointment centers around the big build up only for it to essentially boil down to cases & buttons....oh my!
 

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The main reason I sold my Radius is because it was a brick. I never took it apart, of course, but I have a hard time believing that the thing is mostly polycarb.

The inside is over 1/2 poly or similar material that encases the mechanics. It's black in mine, so there isn't much to see. The hollow part has a battery in it, most of the time. :)

There are pictures somewhere of the insides of a white one with the battery removed. Here's a Midnight blue with battery installed:

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The inside is over 1/2 poly or similar material that encases the mechanics. It's black in mine, so there isn't much to see. The hollow part has a battery in it, most of the time. :)

There are pictures somewhere of the insides of a white one with the battery removed. Here's a Midnight blue with battery installed:

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So, am I interpreting correctly that you believe it may be as much as 50% stainless steel?

If so, replacing the SS with Ti might certainly bring that 190g down to, what, around 130-140 (?).

That's a big difference, IF all my (uneducated) assumptions are correct.
 

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My guess is that the steel weight is about 3 ounces, but I have no way to weigh the bottom cap well to make a better guestimate.

IF my guess is close and Ti is1/3 less -- the Radius would weigh in at 5+ ounces, plus battery of 1 2/3, making a grand total of 5.2-5.3.

I do also believe the 190 grams figure is high. I'm guessing that is the shipping weight, not the mod weight as 360 said it was about 6.2 ounces and people here weighed theirs in at a bit more with various home scales to various amounts that were just a hair higher. That includes the battery which is most likely 47 grams, appx 1 2/3 ounce.

This is all theory, BTW. No actual calculations of steel, poly and parts weight were used in the making of this guess.:)
 
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My guess is that the steel weight is about 3 ounces, but I have no way to weigh the bottom cap well to make a better guestimate.

IF my guess is close and Ti is1/3 less -- the Radius would weigh in at 5+ ounces, plus battery of 1 2/3, making a grand total of 5.2-5.3.

I do also believe the 190 grams figure is high. I'm guessing that is the shipping weight, not the mod weight as 360 said it was about 6.2 ounces and people here weighed theirs in at a bit more with various home scales-- 6.2 - 6.4. That includes the battery which is most likely 47 grams, appx 1 2/3 ounce.

My guess is a Ti Radius would not save that much weight.
 
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My guess is that the steel weight is about 3 ounces, but I have no way to weigh the bottom cap well to make a better guestimate.

IF my guess is close and Ti is1/3 less -- the Radius would weigh in at 5+ ounces, plus battery of 1 1/3, making a grand total of 5.2-5.3.

Shall we have a contest?

It wouldn't be been much of a contest since we both came to almost the exact some conclusion. But it sounds like we're making the same assumptions too, which may or may not have been correct.

If the originally cited weight is accurate, it's reasonable to conclude that replacing the SS with Ti would, indeed, make a noticeable (and significant difference). I guess that's the part the surprised me, right up front. 190g is a lot.

Have we confirmed that 190g is at least somewhat accurate?
 

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My guess is that the steel weight is about 3 ounces, but I have no way to weigh the bottom cap well to make a better guestimate.

IF my guess is close and Ti is1/3 less -- the Radius would weigh in at 5+ ounces, plus battery of 1 2/3, making a grand total of 5.2-5.3.

I do also believe the 190 grams figure is high. I'm guessing that is the shipping weight, not the mod weight as 360 said it was about 6.2 ounces and people here weighed theirs in at a bit more with various home scales to various amounts that were just a hair higher. That includes the battery which is most likely 47 grams, appx 1 2/3 ounce.

This is all theory, BTW. No actual calculations of steel, poly and parts weight were used in the making of this guess.:)

Never mind. I didn't realize you revised your post, after began my initial reply.

I liked the idea though (contest). If someone would have been so kind as to send me a Radius, I'd have gladly played along.
 

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Hmmmm...how can I say this without coming off offensive to anyone????

I could see if there were a lot of options to choose from but there isn't. What's available may be right on the money for some; others not so much. From what I've been reading, it appears the disappointment centers around the big build up only for it to essentially boil down to cases & buttons....oh my!

The reality is Provape, or any company for that matter will never be able to meet every expectation.

Examples:

P3:
You mean it's "ONLY" 20 watts?
The menu system? Meh, it's too complex
What? No Temp Control?
One button? What's with that?

Radius:
What? It's not dual battery?
It's only 40 watts?
I'd buy one, if only it was all metal.
That "plastic" case?

And the list goes on and on.

My point is Provape thought it might be fun if they offered people the opportunity to customize their Radius to better fit their aesthetic interests. What other Mod make is doing this? I'd hazard a guess the answer is NONE. Provape offers more options with the best mods on the planet. And yet, for some it's still not enough.

I have no doubt they'll offer more options in the future, but I'm kind of surprised at the disappointment.
 
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The reality is Provape, or any company for that matter will never be able to meet every expectation.

Examples:

P3:
You mean it's "ONLY" 20 watts?
The menu system? Meh, it's too complex
What? No Temp Control?
One button? What's with that?

Radius:
What? It's not dual battery?
It's only 40 watts?
I'd buy one, if only it was all metal.
That "plastic" case?

And the list goes on and on.

My point is Provape thought it might be fun if they offered people the opportunity to customize their Radius to better fit their aesthetic interests. What other Mod make is doing this? I'd hazard a guess the answer is NONE. Provape offers more options with the best mods on the planet. And yet, for some it's still not enough.

I have no doubt they'll offer more options in the future, but I'm kind of surprised at the criticism being lobbed over this.

I miss ALL the fun.

Seriously - a lot of criticism? Why? Don't like it? Don't buy it.

I actually think it's a kind of cool, and had some fun playing around with it.
 

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I'm not going to hold the fact he's Republican against him. ;) I'm not sure Van Halen helps the cause much, but a US Representative? Even if he was a card carrying Martian, he can do much good for the vaping world.
It's Democrats who are more likely to tell people what they can or cannot smoke, vape, eat, or drink. Nanny Bloomberg or Michelle Obama ring a bell? Of course, there are plenty of GOPers who do similar but in the area of vaping I think we're going to find the Dems are in the lead for regulating vaping.
 

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I miss ALL the fun.

Seriously - a lot of criticism? Why? Don't like it? Don't buy it.

I actually think it's a kind of cool, and had some fun playing around with it.

Perhaps criticism is the wrong word. It's more a level of disappointment. I'll amend my post.
 
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My guess is a Ti Radius would not save that much weight.

And you are probably right. Many have said it would not make much difference, and I probably shouldn't get gabby and confusing in the wee hours of the morning. Maybe 1/2 ounce? :lol:

@DPLongo22. I don't have decent scales, so I'm going on foggy memory and 360's first post which said about 6.2 ounces, 176 grams.

It's not a brick unless compared to an iStick or an ego. It feels solid and comfy, never cold. I'd say it's about the same weight as my IPV mini with battery and a hair more than CoolFireIV. Probably within decimals of your Xvo and certainly under your unicorn from down under.
 

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It's Democrats who are more likely to tell people what they can or cannot smoke, vape, eat, or drink. Nanny Bloomberg or Michelle Obama ring a bell? Of course, there are plenty of GOPers who do similar but in the area of vaping I think we're going to find the Dems are in the lead for regulating vaping.

My humble apologies for the tongue in cheek humor and comment that I'd forgive him for being Republican. Truly sorry. Let's not take this into politics. It's a battle that only divides and just doesn't belong here. My bad.........
 

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It wouldn't be been much of a contest since we both came to almost the exact some conclusion. But it sounds like we're making the same assumptions too, which may or may not have been correct.

If the originally cited weight is accurate, it's reasonable to conclude that replacing the SS with Ti would, indeed, make a noticeable (and significant difference). I guess that's the part the surprised me, right up front. 190g is a lot.

Have we confirmed that 190g is at least somewhat accurate?
without battery, my black Radius weighs 145.8g, bottom plate and screws weighs 30.8g. With my Russian on top weight is 268.9g /9.49oz. With battery and no atty 6.69oz/189.8g.
 

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My humble apologies for the tongue in cheek humor and comment that I'd forgive him for being Republican. Truly sorry. Let's not take this into politics. It's a battle that only divides and just doesn't belong here. My bad.........
I'm an equal opportunity criticizer when it comes to career politicians and political parties. They're all scumbags. :)

From his farewell address...

“However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”

George Washington

In other words, Americans would be more committed to themselves and their party rather than to their country. Surprise, surprise.
 
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