Cyborg - ProVari Killer?

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zoiDman

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The excuses piled up quick. Stephen Hawking could program a cnc mill. Point is it's not worth your time for $30, obviously, and anyone who isn't a minimum-wage earning child knows this.

Hey sawlight...

This is why I Never Argue with "know-it-alls" who have Never Touched Off a Tool. And don't know the Difference between a G43 and a G54.


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Well wait a second, earlier bfrie claimed "anyone with a dna chip" could make one of these mods for $100. I know that's not fair, he's out of his league in this discussion.

Aluminum as a body material is fine in this price class. Provaris aren't the only device that sells. And it's not like stainless is a no-brainer either. Many people find aluminum preferable for a device they will be pocketing all day, myself included.

PM me when you have a chance, I would like to look into your machining services.

No need for the PM, I've nothing to hide. I live around Wichita KS, what used to be the air Capitol of the world. It's not any more I'm sad to say!
I started out doing avionics parts, tight tolerance equipment, +-.0002" on some parts. I then went into mold building, plastic injection, blow and roto molding. Then I built custom automated machinery for a while. Then a whole lot more aircraft parts!
I've run 3,4 and 5 axis mills from 1-6 spindles. I've run 2-7 axis lathes, I can set up, edit and program all of them. Back in my youth I thrived on pressure! I worked for one shop that specialized in "quick and dirty offload work". We got the parts at 9am, wrote the program at the break table and sent them out the door at 4pm!
I am versed with Fanuc, Cincinati, Mazatrol, Fadal and Bridgeport controls.
As for manuals, I've run Van Norman ram heads, Bridgport, and clones, by the hundreds, Brown and Sharp horizontals, Clausing, Reed Prentice, lathes. Sorry, I'm leaving a lot out, I know, if you'd like PM me with your email and I'll send you my résumé.
 

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G00 G90 G54 X0 Y0 S1500 M13 G43 H1 Z1.0

Indeed!

Yep...

And this is what you get when some "Kid" thinks that there is Nothing Hard about CNC Programming.

Bad_Die_Cut.jpg


The Owner had about 20 Hours of Machining into this Die before that 3/4 End-Mill Wiped it Out because someone Forgot to Raise the Tool between those Cutter-Comped Details.
 

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Yep...

And this is what you get when some "Kid" thinks that there is Nothing Hard about CNC Programming.

Bad_Die_Cut.jpg


The Owner had about 20 Hours of Machining into this Die before that 3/4 End-Mill Wiped it Out because someone Forgot to Raise the Tool between those Cutter-Comped Details.

Had over 40hrs in a brake die when I was doing tooling, set the mill up, but it didn't look right to me. Had my boss and his boss check it, both said I was right, scraped it! I had the angle inverted! That was a BAD DAY!
 

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Being able to do the Work, and Wanting to Do the Work is Many Times Two Different Things.

My point exactly. The number of people who have the connections and skill to make a mod like this for themselves at materials cost is next to nil. So to list bulk costs and ..... about the markup is ridiculous.

Go back and check, never said I was going to, just said it could be done. You're looking for a fight, I've got family here and it's the wife's Birthday, I'm out.

Well you think it could be done but the only way that could be proven is to actually do it. And if you are unwilling or unable to do it, then it can't be done by you. Someone looking to produce is going to have to find someone who will do it, and there's no saying what their prices will be.

In any event, your $30 pricing in no way reduces the justification of the pricing of this mod. In fact I'd say it's right in line with what I'd expect for this pricing level.
 
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Had over 40hrs in a brake die when I was doing tooling, set the mill up, but it didn't look right to me. Had my boss and his boss check it, both said I was right, scraped it! I had the angle inverted! That was a BAD DAY!

Yeah.. Been there. Done That. Unfortunately.

A couple of Weeks Ago I wrote some Finish Code on a Cavity. But Didn't have my Head Screwed On Straight.

Because I under Cut all the Surfaces .0015" to account for Plating. Trouble was I had gone ahead and made a .003" Compensation on the Die Core so I would have to do anything on the Cavity Surfaces.

We were Lucky. We were able to save the Die by Dropping the TLO for the Cutters down and Re-Cutting the Die Side.

But it was still a Bad Day because Owner don't tend to Forget Rework in the Shop.
 

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What's this ?

Trying to buy a mod for $30 in the APV Forum?
You do realize that buying, selling or trading outside of the classifieds is against the forum Rules...right ??


Yes, I know you are being antagonistic...


There are a few disruption infractions that really need to be handed out here...spoiling for a fight...

Instead, consider yourselves warned.


Just shaking my head at this thread.
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