D/AP concerns. Vocal minority?
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If truth and laughing is sarcastic let it be, it is funny as all get out. Do not need credibility when truth is present or you prefer falsities.. Perhaps.. Just Friday 8 individuals truth was that they needed to harm others and that is what is being presented in these post about how safe it is to vape any D/AP..
BTW not the only one laughing its hilarious. Its a nerd type posting of laughter that probably is over your head as well but I explained it rather well . So I shall now thank you for posting and referring to me because you care about my credibility when all I did was post truth.. Thats also hilarious..
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IDK been around the internet since 1992 figured everyone knows Room Full of Laughter is RFOL or
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All I know is that sarcasm and condescending attitudes don't further any good discussion. I personally come here to learn and interject good solid facts when I can, (not too often, LOL). I just get a little sick of adolescent attitudes sabotaging others opportunities to learn on here. It happens way too often. Grown ups can agree to disagree without rudely laughing at the others opinion or educated guess. For the time being, the discussion of dike tones is all hypothesis, and will be for quite some time. Doesn't mean we can't learn more about it politely in the mean time, until more extensive science comes to light.
I agree. And sadly some of us aren't about that and try not to do that. But when someone keeps insulting you it gets to you eventually.
Your still not understanding but it's ok. There is no other way to look at it. Cigarette bad, vape decent, better without any diacetyl, thats exactly what he is saying diacetyl is not that huge in a cigarette, your posting as though it is it doesn't take much exposure to diacetyl for it to be considered harmful to our lungs to our bellys well thats a different story..
No. You are misrepresenting what I've stated. I simply copied the Dr's own words. Why does every website agree with my view? It's not just me! It's everywhere I've researched. Why can't you back up what you say with a study?
You see what you want. It doesn't agree with your preconceived notion.
I agree with most of that. I never said I didn't. You assume way too much.
Diacetyl doesn't even show in a cigarette until it's lit. Then it is there. And the doctor tells us to what degree in comparison to vaping.
You see what you want. It doesn't agree with your preconceived notion.
Now you're just copying what I said!
Honestly. Go email the Dr.
If you honestly are sincere you'd stop with the attitude. Answer one question, why does every site and every other researcher state what I said and make that claim? It's not just me. A little research and you see that's true.
Seriously.
Go read that wiki on Diacetyl and then how tobacco is cured and see if what you just posted makes sense. It's most certainly present in most cigarettes pre-lighting, its a product of the curing and gives a robust flavor profile that many enjoy and is why its spoofed into e joos in bad vendors joos's.. Good tasty stuff. lol
Its everywhere lol...
It's in beer and beer manufacturers pay chemist huge to get it out or in. I jus no wanna breath vapes in with it or as little as possible.. Join me lol...
Did you even read what I posted. Ugh. And I knew it was in beer. None of what you posted is anything new. Come on?
It is not traceable until lit.
It's your business if you don want to vape it. I never said you had to!
What claim is this? I havee no idea what claim you are referring. 100 times in scientific data is the same no matter how its stated. Your truly not stating or claiming anything your just upset you read that 100 times wrong as hugely better and truly in woman fashion keep trying to make how you understand it correct. Ok your correct its 100 times better to vape and thats true but it's a very very small margin with diacetyl and even smaller with AP thats 100% true..
Take a listen to clickbang he nails it to the wall on how that 100 translates with the joos he has tested.. It diminishes to e joos containing more diacetyl than analogs in some e joos and thats scary..
A Canadian Organization stated this:
One key point that was made clear in this statement:
"Tobacco cigarettes smoke contains both compounds, at levels 100 times higher for diacetyl and 10 times higher for acetyl propionyl compared to e-cigarette average daily exposure."
ECTA Informational Publications/Studies/Articles/Videos
One key point that was made clear in this statement:
"Tobacco cigarettes smoke contains both compounds, at levels 100 times higher for diacetyl and 10 times higher for acetyl propionyl compared to e-cigarette average daily exposure."
ECTA Informational Publications/Studies/Articles/Videos
This, to me, is the answer to the OP's question. There are a ton of vapers in southern NH and a lot of B&M's around. I have 15-20 acquaintances that vape that I am in contact with on a regular basis(daily/weekly). They all were turned on to vaping by shops and continue to go to the shops or order online. They are not members of forums and the shops don't post anything about the upcoming FDA regulations or the DA/AP "controversy". If they have an issue with their product, they don't use the interwebz, they go to the B&M for a fix or answers.
I bring up that last issue because that is how I found the forums to begin with. Researching mods, issues, etc. It all lead me here.
I can tell you that if I wasn't interested in tinkering or researching outside of asking the local B&M, that I would never know about the FDA or DA/AP situations. If this forum wasn't here, how many of us would know to sign a petition or that there was DA in our juice?
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