Daughter wants to smoke, advice.

[Berylanna]

I agree with most of what you say. Depression runs in my family, and I have often wondered if nicotine caused the chemical imbalance, or if it kept one I already had it in check. In my case, and I am sure many others as well, nicotine can be a godsend in what happens in your mind. But I also have to point out, that I remember the first time I ingested nicotine, and the results were much different than that of drinking tea or coffee for the first time. Nicotine is a much more powerful substance. So I still have to stand by my first statement, if the daughter of the op is not having any problems, leave the nicotine alone.

I agree. Just don't want to spread misinformation when the WHO and the FDA and Health Canada are trying to say nicotine is the killer when we know full well it is smoke inhalation.

AND the doses are different....but with vaping you don't get that "instant" hit so I think fewer of the "wrong" people will get addicted if vaping becomes more common than smoking (by smokers switching, mind you!)

 

[Rachy_B]

I agree with most of what you say. Depression runs in my family, and I have often wondered if nicotine caused the chemical imbalance, or if it kept one I already had it in check. In my case, and I am sure many others as well, nicotine can be a godsend in what happens in your mind. But I also have to point out, that I remember the first time I ingested nicotine, and the results were much different than that of drinking tea or coffee for the first time. Nicotine is a much more powerful substance. So I still have to stand by my first statement, if the daughter of the op is not having any problems, leave the nicotine alone.

If the daughter of the OP is having problems with depression and low mood, as I always say, she should go to a doctor. Depression can be too dangerous to not take any medical guidance on. Adding a new addiction to a pre-existing problem can only make matters ten times worse. While I don't doubt that nicotine can have a mild anti-depressant reaction, depression and low mood should be addressed medically, by professionals. vaping doesn't kill, depression can.

Nicotine releases dopamine, the happy hormone in our brains. Physical contact also releases dopamine. Skip the nicotine if you're not already and addict and head straight for the hugs! They cost nothing and feel infinitely better!x

 

[Ryedan]

To everyone who says it's better to not smoke, and vapers should only be ex-smokers...

We all made the decision to smoke. So yeah, it's better not to, but we all went there. Every single one of us.

If you could go back to when you started, if vaping were around, would you still have smoked?

I know I wouldn't have. I'd be a happy vaper from the start.

I was going to be a smoker. I picked up a pack a day habit when I was 15. Overnight. Instant smoker. It was something I was going to do.

How I WISH vaping were around (like it is today) back when I started.

Just my two cents. If someone's going to start smoking, I'd much rather see them vaping -- especially at zero nic. Why start a dangerous addictive habit if you actually have the CHOICE to use something better, tastier, and less smelly?

Very well said adeline. I could only like it once, but I can

 

[bryan29]

Why even ask the question!! The answer is no! Unless you want her to die young. Dont even pick up a stupid cigarette. Once shes hooked shes hooked for life 80% plus the cost of it and smell. Yuk

 

[XtianApi]

my method is to take the would be smoker to the hospital, to the cancer ward, and show her throat, tongue, and lung cancer. If not, than a video may work. Someone in their last days of lung cancer is unforgettable. however people her age feel invincible and scare tactics may not work.

 

[astounded]

Another 2 cents worth ...

- let her know there is no question that there are differences in brain chemistry that are going to make some people much more susceptible to nicotine addiction than others; there is frequently a genetic component involved and if you and her dad both smoke the probability is that she also will be very susceptible to the effects of nicotine. If she is going to start anything, suggest she video her reasons for making that choice, because if she becomes addicted it will not be long before she has entirely forgotten what it was like to have any choice at all in the matter ... after all an addiction is pretty well waving bye-bye to free will about something.

I think e-cigs are lifesavers but I also agree with those who suggest the best option would be to start neither. That said, I did read that nicotine is itself not as addictive without the presence of MAO inhibitors found in other components of tobacco smoke, so in addition to not inhaling burning tobacco this would be another reason to consider vaping might be the less destructive alternative. (But again, how many people could say they could walk away from vaping tomorrow without looking back??? That is an honest question as I am new and don't know - I am sure not one of them as the same day I would be back to a pack and a half of smokes)

If it was my kid and I couldn't do anything else I would actually offer to buy her OTC patches, gum or nicorettes if it is the nicotine she wanted - just because the release is so slow that it is less likely to be associated by the brain with an addictive activity (as we all know who have tried these aids and found them not very helpful!) If it is the "cool" she wants from smoking the person who suggested a written list has a good point - it should include what she could buy in a few years with what she could end up spending on smoking if she became heavily addicted. A Porsche and a designer wardrobe, or a downpayment on her own place might start looking pretty cool too.

Best of luck to you - it must be tough - again why start any addictive behaviour if you don't have to, and there may be unknown negative health consequences to vaping - but we KNOW there are a phenomenal number of negative health consequences to inhaling tobacco smoke ... so if it had to be one or the other I would steer towards vaping over smoking, try to encourage a zero nic ejuice, and if she wouldn't accept that then I would hope like heck that the lack of the other substances found in tobacco might give her more of a chance at walking away from nicotine - or at least having the choice to do so.

 

[Dram]

When my kids asked about smoking (and all 3 have at some point) my response was to explain it's an addiction that is extremely bad on your body and and extremely hard to give up. I reminded them of the one and only time I tried to quit cold turkey (made it 3 weeks). I was an evil person to be around and they remembered it well. So then I asked, "would you like that to be you in a few years?" Of course they wouldn't and none have ever smoked and all are very happy that I have made the move to vaping.

 

[Peggy-o]

I would ask her if she's dead set on taking up smoking, if it's the "cool factor" she's looking for, if she's already smoking and hiding it? she has to be honest and for this, you're better off sitting down and sounding open minded.
Then I assume she'll answer yes to all questions, if she's not in denial about the "cool factor" effect, she might say no to the last one, but in any scenario my answer would be to show her the super nice looking e-cigs available, let her pick the juce she needs (0mg if she doesn't smoke, whatever if she's secretely smoking) and let her vape.
Why do I say this? Because if she's a smoker already, she'll give it up (hasn't been a smoker for long, still thinks she likes it, etc), if she's not a smoker, chances are when she gets defiant and decides to try an analog the taste will disgust her way more than it does a non smoker surrounded by smokers. She'll be used to having "nice tasting vapour" in her mouth and probably won't like the cig. It may be a stupid idea but it's mine and I stand by it ^^

 

[Lethalp]

I have a 16 yr old and of her group of 5 friends 3 of them smoke!! So IMO teenagers are still picking up the addiction to cigs. It seems the smokers are finally getting that it's bad but somehow the kids still don't get it.

That being said here is what happened to me. When I was stillsmoking I noticed some of my cigs coming up missing and my lighter moving to places I would not put it. I am sure all of u ex smokers remember how many cigs were left in the pack right?

I suspected my daughter was smoking and since I had already thought about vaping it def got me moving in that direction faster. I HAD to get me under control before she turned into a full blown smoker.

I never confronted her I just started vaping. She watched as I went through all my trials and never picked one up again ( we have since talked about smoking) now then she will be 18 in a few months and I have no doubt she will become a vaper. She has already helped 2 of her friends switch to vaping from smoking.

Do I want her to Vape? Hmmmm, I guess for me I don't have a problem with her doing it. I have vaped almost 2 years with NO problems. Plus if she is 18 I can't stop her, she had just as much right to Vape as I do. In my mind I would rather have her Vape to keep her from smoking when other peers want her to smoke. Does that make sense?

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[BmoreJeff]

as a father you need to do everything in your power to convince her not to smoke. give her the statistics, show her videos, get pictures of lungs that are cancerous, tell her how you cough up nasty stuff, tell her its a guaranteed way to end up 6 feet under sooner than someone who chooses not to smoke. I have twins that will be here in less than 2 weeks. I have thought about this extensively. the question is what do you do? the answer is everything and anything to keep them from smoking, never give up and never stop trying, best of luck

 

[babyk1352012]

At 24 why would she want to start any of that? Even vaping. They are both addictive. Shes gonna make up her own mind either way, and if she absolutely insists she must then yes steer her towards vaping, but like someone else said, make it 0 nic.

 

[Jman8]

I say, with regards to OP, allow the adult child to do both.
If encouraging her to do either doesn't work for you, don't do the encouragement thing.
If health is the chief concern, do activities with the person where increasing healthy lifestyle is part of the aim.

 

[USinchains]

Bravo! Leading by example really does work. I've been told I should take responsibility for my own actions and forget the past, but practically everything I do in life falls right in line with what my parents did, with the exception that I'm able to identify and address problems faster. Kids will call out hypocrisy fast and will never take you seriously if all you do is talk the talk.

I have a 16 yr old and of her group of 5 friends 3 of them smoke!! So IMO teenagers are still picking up the addiction to cigs. It seems the smokers are finally getting that it's bad but somehow the kids still don't get it.

That being said here is what happened to me. When I was stillsmoking I noticed some of my cigs coming up missing and my lighter moving to places I would not put it. I am sure all of u ex smokers remember how many cigs were left in the pack right?

I suspected my daughter was smoking and since I had already thought about vaping it def got me moving in that direction faster. I HAD to get me under control before she turned into a full blown smoker.

I never confronted her I just started vaping. She watched as I went through all my trials and never picked one up again ( we have since talked about smoking) now then she will be 18 in a few months and I have no doubt she will become a vaper. She has already helped 2 of her friends switch to vaping from smoking.

Do I want her to Vape? Hmmmm, I guess for me I don't have a problem with her doing it. I have vaped almost 2 years with NO problems. Plus if she is 18 I can't stop her, she had just as much right to Vape as I do. In my mind I would rather have her Vape to keep her from smoking when other peers want her to smoke. Does that make sense?

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[cherrycakes]

Well if I know teenagers I'm probably going to say that whatever you tell her she's going to do the opposite.
So there's that....
Tell her she can start vaping
0 nic and see how that goes.
If you tell her NO smoking she's probably going to rebel.
At least that was my experience.