Despite your love for Reo's , what are the negatives.

[suspectK]

High powered/regulated reos in the future? I'd get one.. making my own I guess.

 

[muzichead]

High powered/regulated reos in the future? I'd get one.. making my own I guess.

If one knows how to make a proper coil and wick it as well, no regulation needed. It also helps if you have more than one REO in your stable. One for tobacco's, fruit's, desserts, and so on....

 

[suspectK]

If one knows how to make a proper coil and wick it as well, no regulation needed. It also helps if you have more than one REO in your stable. One for tobacco's, fruit's, desserts, and so on....

:slams face through window and head bangs broken window in neck, leading to decapitation:

×'s facepalm...

 

[sllanham]

I've had numerous tube mods (Nemesis, Gus, Legacy, JM22, EA Mod), a regulated tube (provari), a regulated box (Hana Mod) and lots of atties. Everything from 306, 510, drippers, genesis, to Kayfuns and in all honesty the Reo and RM2 are my favorite vape. If I had to supply a negative it would be the availability to find ready to vape bottom fed atties. The selection is rather limited. Most drippers can be modded to bottom feed but it's nice to be able to just buy one and not have to drill or cut it up. That's the only real negative that comes to mind and that's not really a fault of the Reo.

 

[MamaTried]

my only negative is i only own 30 of them...

 

[jazdale]

Here's the downside.
Its very reliable. So reliable that you'll quit carrying a spare.
But everything does eventually break down or wear out.
You will need a backup for the 3 days it takes to get the $25 fix-it kit.

A big reason why I like my Reo...
I'd rather be seen sucking on a detonator then a dildo.

 

[six]

High powered/regulated reos in the future? I'd get one.. making my own I guess.

What seems to be in the near future for regulated REO is a more-easily kickable design. The current grand isn't hard, but it sounds like something even less difficult is on the near horizon... Then the only limitations will be of how the kick evolves. The newest kick is better than the first one by far... the next one I'll imagine will be another improvement.

The point being: I'm led to believe that REO (Rob) has elected not to be responsible for electronics in his mods any more. The end of the VV REO Grand was a disappointment to me (Mostly because I didn't realize they were ending... and I didn't get a metal one), but I understand why he came to that decision.

 

[PapawBrett]

The only negative I can think of is if you're waiting for a good deal in the classies, better move quickly when it shows. I once sold an original mini (14500) and it's accompanied RM2 for $150. In six minutes.
I own seven REOS; 2 metal VV Grand, a Grand, a Mini2.1, a Woodville, a Wood 14500 and a Wood mini. All but the newest one (the Grand) are displayed in my avatar. Each has it's own RM2, chrome for the metals and brass for the woods. I do not own any other type of Mods anymore, nor do I wish to. The REOS fits my lifestyle (trucker) perfectly.
I might add the biggest negative used to be the 'Learning Curve' back in the days of attys and cartos. But the arrival of the RM2 has eliminated that problem.

 

[herb]

I saw this thread when you posted it, and I've been giving it some thought. I own two REOs and they are very different from one another. You asked for negatives compared to other types of mods... This is by far the hardest question I've ever tried to answer on ECF.

OK. I own a 14500 mini (no longer made but they do occasionally pop up in the classifieds). Compared to any mod with a larger than 14500 battery, of course battery life is an issue. When I take the mini out for the day, I have to carry a couple of spare batteries. That is indeed a negative in my book because the reason I fell in love with bottom feeders was the fact I didn't have to carry a bunch of vaping supplies any more... But, if you get a new mini, it uses an 18490 so that limitation is not an issue.

Another negative... and this is a stretch... regarding all of the metal REOs is that you might develop a habit sliding the door up and down. It makes a "schlik schlik" sound that tends to annoy spouses, coworkers, and other innocent bystanders. - That sounds like a joke sort of, but that topic has come up many, many times in the REO subforum. And, I'm here to tell you that it can and probably will happen to you. I'm not normally a fidgety sort of person, but I've almost driven my wife over the edge with the "schlik schlik-ing" on more than a hundred occasions.

My other REO is a VV Woodville (also no longer made, but metal VV REOs do pop up in the classifieds now and then). There are two negatives compared to other mod types, and one of them is absolute nonsense, but enough people believe it that I suppose it has to be mentioned.

First the nonsense: Stacked batteries. It takes a pair of 18350s. The hysteria about stacking batteries in unregulated, unvented tube mods spilled over in to misconceptions about stacking batteries in regulated mods with proper safety features. A lot of folks believe a lot of untruths about stacking batteries, so it had to be mentioned. I personally will not call it a negative because I know better. ---

OK now that's out of the way, the only other negative I can come up with on VV REOs comparing them to other mod types is they don't do sub ohm and in fact the chipset can only produce something around ~12 watts max real world. I think the spec sheet for the chip from notcigs said 14 watts max, but none of the notcigs chips I've used can do do it real world.

Other negatives I could come up with all have to do with personal preference regarding form factor. Some folks just really like tubes so much they can't use a box mod of any sort. I'm not one of those folks, so it's hard for me to understand it.

That's it. That's all I've got. If you want to completely remove the hassle of carrying supplies and messing around with tanks or cartos or bottles of juice or whatever, and if you want a perfectly reliable device that works every single time you push the button - and is also beyond durable, get a REO.

Thanks for the responses but a chipset , what's all the stuff i read about it's a mechanical ? The body might be tough but a chipset can go at anytime.

The only negative I can think of is if you're waiting for a good deal in the classies, better move quickly when it shows. I once sold an original mini (14500) and it's accompanied RM2 for $150. In six minutes.
I own seven REOS; 2 metal VV Grand, a Grand, a Mini2.1, a Woodville, a Wood 14500 and a Wood mini. All but the newest one (the Grand) are displayed in my avatar. Each has it's own RM2, chrome for the metals and brass for the woods. I do not own any other type of Mods anymore, nor do I wish to. The REOS fits my lifestyle (trucker) perfectly.
I might add the biggest negative used to be the 'Learning Curve' back in the days of attys and cartos. But the arrival of the RM2 has eliminated that problem.

A hundred and a half for a mini , i thought most Reo's were about that brand new.

 

[twgbonehead]

I hate the REO! I have to listen to everybody rave about it and I don't have one! ;-)

 

[edyle]

IT DEPENDS.



Q: Can I use my xxx on a REO?
A: IT DEPENDS.

 

[mackman]

I was very skeptical of the REO in my search for "the perfect vape" and felt the same as a lot of other ECF users... I didn't care for the device or its followers one bit! I thought it was all hype and nothing else! Well, 3 years into my vaping journey and for my 3rd vapeversary I decided since I was just wasting all my money and time buying and having to mod any tube type device I bought, I might as well buy a REO. I started with the mini 2.1 and lets just say I wasn't blown away by it. I used it for a month and decided it wasn't the device for me. It was just too small, too many battery changes and way too many refills through the day... Then I found a thread over in the REO section of the forum to swap devices. I posted it and within 2 days I had swapped it for a Grand with a fellow Reonaut. Received it in about 3 days from him, threw on the Cyclone, and it was game on!!! I had finally found the end all device, for me, and haven't looked back. If I was to "have to" give any kind of negative, it would be that it could use a larger juice capacity. That is it... Recently I installed the new beryllium spring and firing pin in it and feel it is an even more outstanding vape. The only thing I felt was missing was that I wished it was low profile so I could use other RDA's on it and open up the possibilities that were there for me to explore and right now the funds are just not available to spend for the LP version. ... I did do the next best thing though, my grand is in transit to Maine to be milled down and hopefully I will see it back here in Illinois on Monday or Tuesday of next week. I have a brand new Atomic, (converted for BF), waiting to be sitting on top of it when it gets back home. The only other thing I will need to seek out for it in the future will be a larger juice bottle for it and I will have found "the perfect vape" in my opinion. I only wish I would have done this 3 years ago and I would have saved so much money and time wasted on tinkering to get things to work only half decent... Only thing I can say today is....Believe the hype!!!!

Remember you can use a Vapage 9ml bottle in lieu of the 6ml bottle

 

[muzichead]

Remember you can use a Vapage 9ml bottle in lieu of the 6ml bottle

I've tried the vapage bottle and had seepage out the threads in the cap. It wouldn't seal properly.

 

[herb]

Can anyone answer my questions from post #29?

 

[B2L]

Can anyone answer my questions from post #29?

If it's the question about the chip set, Rob made for awhile a VV Grand with a chip. He didn't like the idea of not being able to fix whatever may go wrong with his products and is therefore not making them anymore. All REOs available from REOs mods at this time are purely mechanical.

The only negative to the REO I have found to this point is always wanting one more is starting to bother my wife

 

[Racehorse]

The only negative I can think of is that the metal ones get kinda cold for my hand in the winter

 

[six]

Can anyone answer my questions from post #29?

The only thing worth adding to B2L's response is that VV Grands do pop up in the classifieds sometimes. They go fast. - As far as the chip and your post #29 mentioning that a chip can fail any time... Well, if you ever did get your hands on a VV Grand or a VV Woodville, you can be assured that it contains the most tried and true chip out there... It is not without limitations and can reasonably be regarded as getting long in the tooth as far as PV electronics are concerned, but it's solid. I've been more or less displeased with notcigs on some customer service and repair issues for one of their devices, but giving credit where credit is due --> The notcigs regulator is as durable as VV chips get for PVs. The Buzz/BuzzPro have been around for a long time and their users will tell you they hold up very, very well.

 

[MamaTried]

The only thing worth adding to B2L's response is that VV Grands do pop up in the classifieds sometimes. They go fast. - As far as the chip and your post #29 mentioning that a chip can fail any time... Well, if you ever did get your hands on a VV Grand or a VV Woodville, you can be assured that it contains the most tried and true chip out there... It is not without limitations and can reasonably be regarded as getting long in the tooth as far as PV electronics are concerned, but it's solid. I've been more or less displeased with notcigs on some customer service and repair issues for one of their devices, but giving credit where credit is due --> The notcigs regulator is as durable as VV chips get for PVs. The Buzz/BuzzPro have been around for a long time and their users will tell you they hold up very, very well.

one more thing to add... Robert has announced that he is working on a mod that will accept a Kick *and* an 18650 battery. he will also provide a spacer so you can use it as a mech if *your* Kick goes bad, so you are not dead in the water if your Kick fails. to me, this is the best of both worlds.

existing Reo Grands can be used with a Kick by sanding a bit of paint on the inside of the body, but with an 18490 batt. you may need to buy or craft a little "holder" for the kick. some people don't bother with that, others have made them by cutting up pink erasers

 

[edyle]

If it's the question about the chip set, Rob made for awhile a VV Grand with a chip. He didn't like the idea of not being able to fix whatever may go wrong with his products and is therefore not making them anymore. All REOs available from REOs mods at this time are purely mechanical.

The only negative to the REO I have found to this point is always wanting one more is starting to bother my wife

I suppose a reo made for an 18650 could work with a 18500 with a kick?

 

[six]

I suppose a reo made for an 18650 could work with a 18500 with a kick?

It does. And coming soon, a REO Grand more easily kickable that will accept a kick *and* and 18650.