I have always used aw imr batts in my preciousi ( yes I made that word up plural for precious ). Tonight I tossed in an efest 18650. Should I be punished? 
is this bad?
is this bad?
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Did I commit a sin?
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I just put in an order for two Efest IMR's on Amazon. I figured if they were IMR's they were ok....Did i mess up too?
Well I have several batts. And my 650 imr is dead. Was too lazy to take off the extensions.
If choosing between AW and Efest. YES.
BTW, there's a reason that Provape states at least four times on the Provari product page that they recommend using only AW high drain batteries in the Provari. The Provari was actually designed around the AW IMR batteries, right down to being a button-top.
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Before I do commit a sin (my client is getting me a red/black 2.5), my buddy keeps telling me to get these: Sony US18650VTC4 2100mAh | Sun-Vapers.com I believe they're unprotected. Along with the starter kit, I'm also getting 2 - 18650, 2000 mah AW Rechargeable Batteries. Are the Sony's unwise to use?
You should get IMR button top batteries. If you get flat tops, they will not work in the ProVari. I would check to see if those sony's are button tops or flat tops.
What's IMR? Well this thread should make your head spin, but it is a type of LiIon chemistry which relates to the chemical makeup of the batery.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...r-batteries-what-exactly-does-imr-mean-2.html
What's IMR? Well this thread should make your head spin, but it is a type of LiIon chemistry which relates to the chemical makeup of the batery.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...r-batteries-what-exactly-does-imr-mean-2.html
So according to the link posted by batitude. Sorry for the ignorance the 18650 efest meets all the standards. The amp limit is high enough etc. I'm not arguing at all, just well, even provape used to sell efest batteries correct? I have plenty of aw 490s and 350s but only 1 650 aw as of now. I'll be investing in a couple more when I order my bronze at some point soon (1 year vapeversarry). But for now it seems at least with my level of reading comprehension that efest should do fine. Now please no flames. If I can safely build a .5 ohm in my nemmy for this particular battery why is it not safe for the precious. I should state I've been known not to read too good.
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So according to the link posted by batitude. Sorry for the ignorance the 18650 efest meets all the standards. The amp limit is high enough etc. I'm not arguing at all, just well, even provape used to sell efest batteries correct? I have plenty of aw 490s and 350s but only 1 650 aw as of now. I'll be investing in a couple more when I order my bronze at some point soon (1 year vapeversarry). But for now it seems at least with my level of reading comprehension that efest should do fine. Now please no flames. If I can safely build a .5 ohm in my nemmy for this particular battery why is it not safe for the precious. I should state I've been known not to read too good.
That's what I thought. As long as it's IMR and button top. I thought it was good.
yeah, but the Panasonic ncr18650pf is a much better battery and so is the sony vct family. both can be had button top
edit: efest are useless, wont find them in my mods
Not to argue further, but. Provape mind you I'm a huge fan is somewhat behind. There are other batteries out there that are superior. Efest 30 amp sony 35 amp etc. aw I agree seem to be great batteries but there are better out there now are there not? I highly doubt that the one little man out there making aw batteries is doing anything vastly different than these other guys. Especially lg and sony who uses these batteries in devices way more powerful like laptops.
Efest by all accounts at least their high amp ones are rebranded lg batteries as far as i have read. After all, these batteries are all coming from china anyway aren't they? who is to say that aw,efest,sony,lg,eh etc. aren't all getting them from the same place.
Efest by all accounts at least their high amp ones are rebranded lg batteries as far as i have read. After all, these batteries are all coming from china anyway aren't they? who is to say that aw,efest,sony,lg,eh etc. aren't all getting them from the same place.
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Never said Efest is not safe for the Precious. Just saying that Provape strongly recommends using only AW IMR's, enough that they say so multiple times.
Provape once offered Trustfire protected ICR batteries for the mechanical Provape-1 until I asked the tech engineers why, when it is common wisdom that IMR batteries are recommended for all mods over ICR batteries now. Provape responded that at one time the Trustfire protected ICR batteries were one of the few options available at that time, but with recent battery testing Provape decided to faze them out in favor of the AW IMR batteries now offered on the website. Provape responds to modern technology.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...vape-about-protected-trustfire-batteries.html
I have to admit to some personal bias againt Efest batteries. I have used both AW and Efest batteries side by side in rotation with each other, and have had much better success with AW. So much disappointment with Efest that they have been delegated to a dark corner in a drawer. Just my
Panasonic, Sanyo, Sony, and Samsung batteries are all made in Japan. AW protected ICR batteries say they are "Made in China, cells and IC made in Japan" (re-wrapped Panasonics?). AW IMR's say, "Made in China." No Japanese battery manufacturers make a 18490 or 18350 size IMR battery, so who is making the AW IMR's? No one knows, and Andrew Wan ain't saying.
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Useless how? Been using their 1600 mah 30 amp for months at .4-.7 I still have a face and they never get warm last for a good amount of time as well. I personally won't buy their Barney batteries but several people have had good luck with those as well. Is there a reason for this opinion? Real question not flaming or trolling at all that is not in my nature so if it sounds like that I by no means mean it to.
All my efest batteries are newer last two months I have purchased them.
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When I posted this it was half tongue in cheek. Efest IMR's are okay to use in ProVari's, but they overstate their mAh and won't last as long as the equivalent AW battery. If you must substitute another battery for AW's, Panasonic or Orbtronic IMR batteries are a better choice...though they are often counterfeited too.
As for ProVape selling Efests, I don't think so. They used to sell an 18650 "ProVari Power" protected LiPo battery, but discontinued that when tests proved that the "lower" mAh AW batteries they were replacing not only gave better performance...they lasted longer too.
I have two "ProVari Power" batteries, they work well in my mech mods.
Well, my 2 efests are on their way from Amazon. 4 batteries for 3 ProVari's not counting the AW IMR 18490 that came with my black one.
If they don't last, I'll consider it a lesson learned.
I'm really digging the looks of the satin silver with the matte finish kayfun and accompanying pro-ring.....I think it will be my daily driver.
If they don't last, I'll consider it a lesson learned.
I'm really digging the looks of the satin silver with the matte finish kayfun and accompanying pro-ring.....I think it will be my daily driver.
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