May work for light vapors (like me) at 18 who could cut it again. 12 bucks for 30 ml of smoke juice. I wouldn't chance it unless there was a ban.
Did I find 75mg liquid?
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May work for light vapors (like me) at 18 who could cut it again. 12 bucks for 30 ml of smoke juice. I wouldn't chance it unless there was a ban.
Oh, so apparently it is 75mg. I changed the title to reflect that.
Someone out there will have some fun.
Someone out there will have some fun.
Guys don't think about the price per ml because we haven't seen anything of this strength before...TW will be coming out with a 54mg juice how much do you think they're going to charge for it...there is a premium for high strength high quality US made eliquid...
I'm thinking about buying this in bulk and just cutting it with flavor and sellling it as 73-70mg/ml juice
I'm thinking about buying this in bulk and just cutting it with flavor and sellling it as 73-70mg/ml juice
You will have some pretty weak flavor if you're cutting 75 mg unflavored to 70 mg flavored.
Actually, this is probably exactly the way to get around the FDA. I'm pretty sure I remember someone suggesting just this in another thread. Sell nicotine as a 'pesticide' or for 'research purposes' without any mention of e-cigs and with the same disclaimer that's on the front page of the website and the FDA can't do a thing. Pretty smart, really.
On the other hand, somebody should probably delete this thread. I'm sure the FDA cronies troll these boards and there's no need to provoke them.
On the other hand, somebody should probably delete this thread. I'm sure the FDA cronies troll these boards and there's no need to provoke them.
Actually, this is probably exactly the way to get around the FDA. I'm pretty sure I remember someone suggesting just this in another thread. Sell nicotine as a 'pesticide' or for 'research purposes' without any mention of e-cigs and with the same disclaimer that's on the front page of the website and the FDA can't do a thing. Pretty smart, really.
On the other hand, somebody should probably delete this thread. I'm sure the FDA cronies troll these boards and there's no need to provoke them.
I don't know about research purpose but if you sell nicotine as a pesticide you will definitely need a license.
Somebody's going to research this and post it here so it might as well be me... lol
BlipLabs.com was registered on June 10, 2009 under a private registration. The website says:
They say 'always' yet they have no internet history. Give no address and I can't find them in them in the phone book. Seems to me that at least one of those would pop up somewhere for a real laboratory that has always been there for its clients.
Yes, my skepticism is showing and if I had a physical address I'd knock on their door (maybe - depends on the neighborhood, lol) and say, "Hey, wassup?"
I really could care less if it's a real lab or not. I just want to know if I send someone $20, $40 or $75 I'm getting a legitimate product. I live very close to that zip code listed on their site. For all I know it could be my neighbor in the apartment next door.
Btw, I went through the checkout process without submitting payment and there was no shipping charges or taxes on my order. Maybe they were gonna walk over and drop it off since I'm in the area... hehe.
BlipLabs.com was registered on June 10, 2009 under a private registration. The website says:
They say 'always' yet they have no internet history. Give no address and I can't find them in them in the phone book. Seems to me that at least one of those would pop up somewhere for a real laboratory that has always been there for its clients.
Yes, my skepticism is showing and if I had a physical address I'd knock on their door (maybe - depends on the neighborhood, lol) and say, "Hey, wassup?"
I really could care less if it's a real lab or not. I just want to know if I send someone $20, $40 or $75 I'm getting a legitimate product. I live very close to that zip code listed on their site. For all I know it could be my neighbor in the apartment next door.
Btw, I went through the checkout process without submitting payment and there was no shipping charges or taxes on my order. Maybe they were gonna walk over and drop it off since I'm in the area... hehe.
It does seem like a way to circumvent the the coming FDA vapeapocalypse. The devices and the liquid will be fine, only the nicotine will be controllable by the FDA.
What makes me think this site is fishy (which I admire) is that they don't sell anything else. There are dozens of research chemical sites on the web and they all sell multiple chemicals (check out Tocris). Only a wholeseller selling to one of those sites (in large batches) would sell just one chemical. Just to be fair nicotine is a very valid research chemical, being the primary nicotonic acetylcholine agonist.
This thread SHOULD NOT be deleted, nowhere on that site does it say 'vape this'. The FDA can to nothing to them based on what we say here. It would be like denying someone gas because someone else is an arsonist. I suppose in the far future the FDA/DEA could require permits to buy nicotine like they do for ....... (yes, you can buy cocain as a research chemical, although you should see the dang permits you need.)
FINALLY: PLEASE TRY THE STUFF DILUTED IN SOMETHING ELSE FIRST. Like 1 drop in 1ml of low nic juice. I don't care if your programming or titrating 'off by one' errors can turn 75mg juice into 750mg juice. And remember vaping can take a while to fully enter your system (like 20 minutes), so don't take another 30 puffs because you felt nothing in the first 5 minutes.
Please keep us up to date!
What makes me think this site is fishy (which I admire) is that they don't sell anything else. There are dozens of research chemical sites on the web and they all sell multiple chemicals (check out Tocris). Only a wholeseller selling to one of those sites (in large batches) would sell just one chemical. Just to be fair nicotine is a very valid research chemical, being the primary nicotonic acetylcholine agonist.
This thread SHOULD NOT be deleted, nowhere on that site does it say 'vape this'. The FDA can to nothing to them based on what we say here. It would be like denying someone gas because someone else is an arsonist. I suppose in the far future the FDA/DEA could require permits to buy nicotine like they do for ....... (yes, you can buy cocain as a research chemical, although you should see the dang permits you need.)
FINALLY: PLEASE TRY THE STUFF DILUTED IN SOMETHING ELSE FIRST. Like 1 drop in 1ml of low nic juice. I don't care if your programming or titrating 'off by one' errors can turn 75mg juice into 750mg juice. And remember vaping can take a while to fully enter your system (like 20 minutes), so don't take another 30 puffs because you felt nothing in the first 5 minutes.
Please keep us up to date!
In their picture, all three vials are the same lot number. That suggests something about their chemical manufacturing.
I also think a legit chemical company would have three labels, instead of all of their concentrations on one and then marked with a highlighter.
At the end of their "agreement" or "disclaimer" on their home page, it states:
Unfortunately, that's a load of garbage.
There is no "Internet Privacy Act".
Reference: Internet Privacy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Unfortunately, that's a load of garbage.
There is no "Internet Privacy Act".
Reference: Internet Privacy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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There ya go. I wouldn't purchase from BlipLabs. Who knows if there's any nicotine at all in what they're selling, and the whole thing seems fishy.
Well Nerf ordered some, and I bet we will all find out. I bet he is not the only one to order some of it either.
I would, but I already have ordered 10 bottles of TW E-Liquid over the past week.....
I would, but I already have ordered 10 bottles of TW E-Liquid over the past week.....
Yeah, we'll have to get Nerf's report. Really, we don't know for sure what's in most of our e-liquids. The internet privacy thing Fresca pointed out makes me uneasy, as well as the cheesy attempt to look like a chemical company.
I think it's legit, and there are many chemical companies in the US. They may want to get in on the E-Liquid without getting in on it.
They also may want to see it for other reasons. I have found it at other sites, and just not like this. However in the other thread it was said that up to 7% in the UK you don't need a license, or anything to handle it. The same could be for the US.
I think the site owner is just trying to cover himself, or herself in the best way they could see fit.
They also may want to see it for other reasons. I have found it at other sites, and just not like this. However in the other thread it was said that up to 7% in the UK you don't need a license, or anything to handle it. The same could be for the US.
I think the site owner is just trying to cover himself, or herself in the best way they could see fit.
I order, use, combine, analyze and inventory chemicals at work most of the day. No chemical company I have ever done business with:
A-has the same lot number on various mixtures
B-uses a highlighter to indicate what's in the bottle
C-posts a picture of a bottle of chemicals (usually all you see is the CAS number, MSDSheets, molecular weight, yadayada)
At least they put a hazard and handling diamond up.
A-has the same lot number on various mixtures
B-uses a highlighter to indicate what's in the bottle
C-posts a picture of a bottle of chemicals (usually all you see is the CAS number, MSDSheets, molecular weight, yadayada)
At least they put a hazard and handling diamond up.
They sent me a tracking number shortly after 5pm local time, along with an email apologizing for an error in their payment system not charging shipping and requested I send them 1/2 of the shipping cost ($3), and that they would cover the half for the inconvenience - its slated to be delivered tomorrow. The internet privacy act thing doesn't mean a damned thing to me, if the chemicals are as advertised thats the only thing I care about.
I don't care about labeling either, labels are expensive, and kudos to them if they can figure out a way to cut down on costs (and hopefully, reduce the price so I can cut down on mine too).
I'll post pics and a review tomorrow, but everything looked legit to me, and that earns my money.
I don't care about labeling either, labels are expensive, and kudos to them if they can figure out a way to cut down on costs (and hopefully, reduce the price so I can cut down on mine too).
I'll post pics and a review tomorrow, but everything looked legit to me, and that earns my money.
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