Difference between Bloog and Provari?

[CoughingBad]

So I have been reading about the provari and am very interested in it. Have used my bloog 808 battery + bloog cartos for quite some time now and they have served me well. The provari is not cheap and with all the new parts they really add up. So before making a decision i'd like to ask the group to see if its worth it.

I know the provari has variable voltage, but besides that what is the difference between the two, what makes the provari 10 times more expensive then the bloog?

Thanks in advance fellow vapors

 

[Skyway]

Never owned a bloog but it is a pen style battery setup. The Provari is a more advanced and larger unit. It has a replaceable battery where the bloog is essentially a battery in itself. If something goes wrong with the battery or the battery starts to loose its charging capacity you have to purchase a new unit. The Provari uses a removable battery, in 3 different configuration depending on the unit purchased. Presently, the Mini can use an 18350 and an 18490. The Standard size can use an 18490 and an 18650. There is a cap made by a user that can make a Mini use an 18650 but it is not made by Provape so I will not bring that up here.
It uses Accuset technology to set its voltage from 2.9 volts to 6 volts and when you set that voltage it uses that voltage under load of what you are using. Some devices when setting the voltage does not provide that exact voltage under load.
The quality of the Provari out ways almost all of the other big battery ecigs on the market and has been doing this for around 2 years. The warranty is excellent and operation of the device is easy to perform. You only need the one button to access all of its features.
Needless to say, a lot of companies have tried to copy Provape but none of them has succeeded at this time when taking all aspects into account.
There will be some people that say " it does not provide variable wattage" but for what the unit does, it is not needed. If Provape decides to make a variable wattage device, I am sure it will be a good one and I look forward to one.

 

[Riverboat]

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I know the provari has variable voltage, but besides that what is the difference between the two, what makes the provari 10 times more expensive then the bloog?

Thanks in advance fellow vapors

USA made quality and reliability............. Nothing like it...

 

[CoughingBad]

Thanks guys for the responses. I guess I am more interested in the vaping experience, convenience and technology aside, whether the upgrade will bring better taste, throat hit, vapor etc compared to the bloog. I do believe the provari is an excellent PV, and thats why I am very interested. It's just the logical side of me questions whether it is worth it to pay 10 times more than what i currently do.

 

[Skyway]

In the end, the Provari will pay for itself and will be worth it. I still have my V1 Provari that I have had for about a year and a half. My Provari's vape better than any other mod I have owned. I have had a GG, Prodigy, various eGo's, eGo-twist, Omega, box mods etc. I always keep the Provari with me and I take it everywhere. I am not the type to leave it at home afraid of breaking it. The quality is there for a reason. It can take more of a beating than pretty much all of them and still operate the same as when it was new.
The initial price of the Provari throws some people off but that doesn't really make sense to me since it is about the price of a couple cartons of cigs. Once that price is paid, you will not have to worry about paying for anything else unless it is just through want.

 

[Hoosier]

...whether the upgrade will bring better taste, throat hit, vapor etc compared to the bloog...

Um, on the same coil increasing voltage will increase wattage. Higher wattage produces more throat hit and more vapor. A variable voltage will allow you to adjust the coil output, up or down, to get maximum flavor. (That is the part I use the control for the most as I care more for flavor than I do throat hit or vapor production.)

Is it logically worth it? No. Your personal satisfaction and flavor experience is either priceless or worthless so no $ value is applicable. With no $ value being applicable, there is no logical reason to part with any $ for an upgrade.

 

[CoughingBad]

Thanks again guys for the responses.

Some of the reasons I am looking for an upgrade:
1. i use cartos, and refilling is always a pain. This may or may not be fixed with the provari, i am interested in the carto tanks which looks funny on the kr808 ecig. But on the provari, looks okay depending on the tanks.
2. i use darker juices, the same cartos for others last weeks mine last a day. This most likely wont be fixed by the provari. I am experimenting new juices to see if i can kick the dark juice i have been using for the past year.
3. i still smoke the morning cigarette, dont ask me why, guess lack of nicotine through the night. Hoping a better pv will completely kick the bad habit.

Questions I'd like to ask you nice folks... what setup do you use with your provari? I thought I was set on the carto tank but i read posts about how it sometimes doesnt work because of the hole on the carto not big enough or not small enough, confusing. I am also looking at the vivi nova, love the fact you dont have to prime and fill the carto, but have seen mixed reviews so far.

 

[TheBlueAdept]

The vivi is a mixed bag. You can often get more life out if the head, but the flavor is muted and your tank choices are aluminum or plastic (eg no Pyrex or quartz).

My main setup is a phiniac Pyrex tank, and then just a bunch of cheapo smoktech DCTs, which work just fine.

Agree that the provari won't mitigate the effects of dark juice, as you said hopefully you'll find something lighter that you also love.

Sent from my phone; Please excuse typos / autocorrections.

 

[CoughingBad]

I do like the phiniac tank, they are pretty! But with that price i really want to find one that I like. So far on their website i havent found one just yet.

What did you mean by "You can often get more life out if the head, but...". I already ordered the vivi, thought i'd try it since its only 10 bucks. i did hear about the flavor being muted on them, well guess i will get a chance to experiment for myself.

I have decided to buy a provari, now the question is....which color..... ?

 

[Baditude]

The reason that I got a Provari was because of how important vaping is to me. Cigarette smoking was going to be the death of me if I didn't quit. I had tried to quit numerous times with the nicotine gum and patches, even hypnosis; none of that worked. I tried a disposable e-cig that I saw for sale on the counter at a convenience store and I thought why not give it a try. It was actually pretty decent. I told myself that this should work. Around that time, my mother died relatively quickly and unexpectantly of a cancer that no one knew that she had. This made my own mortality hit close to home. I made the decision to quit once and for all with the e-cig.

Long story short, the ecigs have allowed me to be smoke free for 8 months and running. Not only have I potentially saved my life, I have rationally converted the savings from cigarettes to my new vaping habit/hobby. Considering how important vaping is to me I figure I deserve the best device available, which I feel the Provari is.

The majority of APV's are unregulated, which means that as the battery dies so does the quality of vapor and flavor. With the Provari's accuset microprocessor technology, the voltage that I set is continuously provided throughout the battery's charge. It does this so well, that I can not tell when the battery is getting low that it has a function where the activation switch blinks to let me know it is time to change the battery.

The Provari has numerous safety features built into it. It also is able to check the battery voltage and the atomizer resistance, and extremely accurately I might add. It will even tell me if I am trying to use a poor choice of atomizer and voltage combination or tell me if their is a short within the atomizer.

The manufacturing build is beyond compare. The milled threading of the battery endcap has been described as "buttery". The LED display function and single button menu system is easy to master in ten minutes of play. Customer service has proven to be excellent from testimonials on the forums. And I have confidence that even after my one year warranty expires, I can still have my Provari serviced for a reasonable fee.

Is the Provari worth it? It depends upon who is answering the question. For me, its a definite YES!!

It's not for everyone. If you are satisfied with what you are using, there's no need to switch.

 

[sawlight]

I tried the Vivi's, hated them! Muted the flavor, then after about 20mins I got a burnt taste. Never could get them to work. I'm a carto tank man right now! I want to play with RBA's, but will stay with the carto tank as a back up at least! I get much better flavor from the tanks then I ever got from the Vivi's, but that's me. others love them.
As for whether it's worth it or not, that's something you have to decide. It has something like six protection circuits built in, I've no doubt I could drive my truck over it and it would still work and I bought mine just so I wouldn't have to worry about it! Mine will get dropped, be used around welders and certainly roll down the drive a few times at the least!
I bought a Lava Tube clone to try VV and was sold on the first hit! But it's not a Provari! I'll keep it as a back up, but I don't trust it to drop out of my pocket!
It was a big lump for me to swallow for sure, but I saved up and bought it, I'm glad I did!

 

[CoughingBad]

Baditude sorry to hear about your mom. At least you are changing in the right direction for your health. I started coughing really bad (hence my nickname) when i was smoking cigarette. I blamed it on the carpet glue in the FSC cigarettes and started looking for alternatives. As I have said the bloog ecig + cartos, even though not perfect, have served me well. But knowing how young this industry is, im sure improvements will be constantly made, kinda like computers years ago. So after vaping the bloog for more than a year, i am itching for something better. If the provari is as good as everyone claims, like skyway says, it will pay for itself in the long run, so I bit the bullet and ordered myself one

Havent ordered any tank yet, I planned to just try it with the bloog cartos and the vivi nova and see how that goes, then decide what to buy next. I am also looking at the HH atomizer, oh lord so much to choose from, my head is spinning.

 

[CoughingBad]

I tried the Vivi's, hated them! Muted the flavor, then after about 20mins I got a burnt taste. Never could get them to work. I'm a carto tank man right now! I want to play with RBA's, but will stay with the carto tank as a back up at least! I get much better flavor from the tanks then I ever got from the Vivi's, but that's me. others love them.
As for whether it's worth it or not, that's something you have to decide. It has something like six protection circuits built in, I've no doubt I could drive my truck over it and it would still work and I bought mine just so I wouldn't have to worry about it! Mine will get dropped, be used around welders and certainly roll down the drive a few times at the least!
I bought a Lava Tube clone to try VV and was sold on the first hit! But it's not a Provari! I'll keep it as a back up, but I don't trust it to drop out of my pocket!
It was a big lump for me to swallow for sure, but I saved up and bought it, I'm glad I did!

Oh yikes i already got the vivi I hope I am one of those who like it

One of the issues i have with my ecig is i always misplace them. God help me if i misplace this 200 device! Maybe i should also get a lava tube

Which tank and cartos do you use? Do you ever have issue with cartoes hole not being the right size?

 

[MrKV]

Provari w/ a genny on top > everything else. IMO...

 

[CoughingBad]

Provari w/ a genny on top > everything else. IMO...

What a genny??

 

[CoughingBad]

Question to those using carto tanks.... do you have to prefill the carto before putting in the tankl? I suppose it will be burnt if not prefilled, am i right?

 

[Rise]

If you want a carto tank that performs great and looks great on the provari I recommend the Kir Fanis Prive tank (one with the top screw for easy filling). Nothing better currently on the market as far as performance/looks as a carto tank on the provari. Pulled a couple photos off google for you.

 

[Rise]

I'm a provari mini fan myself other carto tanks I'd recommend would be phiniac, and big mamma tanks but you won't get the same streamlined look.

If you want to brave a rebuildable, like a genny or bottom feeder (never buy cartos again) let me know but they cost more upfront for good ones, some cost more than the provari. One step at a time is advised unless you're nuts like me and just want to get the best right away risks and money be damned.

 

[MrKV]

What a genny??

Technically known as a "Genesis atomizer"

Basically it's a tank system that uses SS mesh with a coil wrapped around it. Best flavor hands down, I have a Cobra on a mini Provari and love it over everything else I've tried.

 

[sawlight]

Question to those using carto tanks.... do you have to prefill the carto before putting in the tankl? I suppose it will be burnt if not prefilled, am i right?

Yes! Pre-fill the carto, as you would a normal carto, put it in the tank, fill the tank up, slide the carto the rest of the way in and blow it out on a paper towel. It's a lot easier than it sounds.
I do hope you like the Vivi, it's a really neat setup, but for me it just wasn't "it".
For now I am using these tanks, Dual Coil 510 Tank Cartomizer, Blue, they work, just don't look real nice.