No kidding!!!! But BigTobacco will come in and save the day and claim only THEIR cig a likes are safe, bcoz after all, they only have the consumers best interests at heart
Dimitri Goes Off on Rant About Dishonest Liquid Vendors
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No kidding!!!! But BigTobacco will come in and save the day and claim only THEIR cig a likes are safe, bcoz after all, they only have the consumers best interests at heart
Well damn that is a beautiful thing..sitting here Tribeca in a klite..still debating flavorings in general as total harm reduction..unflavored is just so simple and really is alot more satisfying than people think it's the only thing I can consistently vape..even Tribeca needs to be switched out after a tank(ahh still so damn good the three years I've been vaping and its still the best) but no seriously double feature from juicy vapor tastes pretty damnnn close and has a little more vg in the mix not to mention its cheaper..would like to see the test on that one
Also it would be neat to see a study on what comes out of vaporized base(aka unflavored) just to get a baseline of what the lowest possible risk would be..we know flavorings carry at least some level of increased risk..scariest thing would be too find out how many other flavorings could cause illness that is totally under the radar for example like a peach flavor causing peachy lung..or plum lung..I have a feeling unflavored is damn near harmless but even then I'm interested in the facts on that...
Tribeca isn't even sweet, I wouldn't have any doubts about the flavorings.
The prices, however... *facepalm*
This is an interesting post because the only reason we worry about certain flavor compounds is from history of factory workers inhaling a certain few, but has anyone inhaled ANY of our other flavor compounds repeatedly over time, and in sometimes even higher concentrations than in a butter-flavored popcorn plant of the past?
I have about 2ml of Tribecca left over from 2 years ago. You've said you've been vaping a lot of Tribecca for years. Have you noticed any change in taste in the past 2 years?
I'd like to use a bit of my left over Tribecca here and there, but I'm still a bit worried that they might've used diketones back then, when I believe at most all they were claiming was that they didn't use any diacetyl, and 2 years might even predate that diacetyl claim.
That's a good question 3 years ago Tribeca was the reason I quit analaogs completely..it was the best damn juice at the time period (still to this day for despite being pg based) I have a fresh bottle here made a few months ago and I think it taste absolutely like the first time I tried it, smells exactly the same as well. I diy mostly and have for the most part of the past year. I branched out from Tribeca for awhile onto other hyped up liquids including some custards before the DA/AP thing came about and all my custards went out the window..and slowly down the line so did 85% of my new favorite as I learned they contained the bads..so here I am still vaping Tribeca and some diy unflavored and ry4(that is absent of DA/AP) and I would say if they changed the liquid it is completely unnoticeable..maybe your bottle is well over steeped..as for now I'm totally prepared to go to unflavored if the flavors turn for the worst..BUT Tribeca will always be a weakness..I can recognize the smell blindfolded from a mile.. I also love space jam eclipse but im not too positive it doesn't have DA/AP or acetoin I've only seen the test from vapor shark on it which didn't detect it but I'm so cautious about it because I just want vaping to be as risk free as could possibly be
The sad part is I've tried alot of the supposed Tribeca 1:1 recipes and they are just fail..they are close but they miss one note that truly makes Tribeca what is it..and I'm almost positive it is a kettle corn or popcorn flavoring hence my concern for DA..what ever the base flavor is its exactly the same base in double feature from juicy vapor ( yes i taste that exact same undernote that makes Tribeca in it, I vaped them side by side and the top notes are slightly different but it the closest) which is described as a butter popcorn tobacco..
Edit:I noticed juicy vapor is now nixteria
Edit:I noticed juicy vapor is now nixteria
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Thanks for that very helpful info. I'd like to see if DC2 agrees.
There is a sweetness to it to my tongue, and the smell of the vapor is similar to ethyl maltol to my nose. The prices are very heavy on my wallet.
It doesn't taste to me like the typical taste of diketones, but I still was worrying about it.
I had a bottle of Space Jam Eclipse, and there was a definite custardy taste in it (for me) that worried me. I saw that test result posted, and if it's accurate, then there maybe is hope of good substitutes for diketones.
Considering that Tribeca doesn't really gunk my coils..if there is ethyl maltol in it its not much..I just put a couple of drops in a big bottle of unflavored and shake and let it sit for a few days and it just gives it a slight cotton candy aftertaste..its truly unflavored when I say a few drops I mean a few drops so this could be the case for tribeca..maltol is extremely strong to my taste..sucralose as well and I think alot of vendors over do sweetener theycgunk the hell out of my coils...i can vape unflavored for 2 weeka before changing cotton and wouldnt even have to crystal clear..another reason I don't by vendor juice much anymore..Tribeca is expensive..if you want a good ry4 diy I just use flavourart ry4 alone between 3-5% a week steep and I enjoy it as a Tribeca substitute because Tribeca is expensive..and flavourart ry4 is diketone free
That's great to hear! Tribeca got me off of stinkies, and two years later, it's still all I vape ( just ordered 5 more bottles today ).
I've been trying to DiY it, but I always have to have the original on hand. It's a tough one to replicate.
A big Thank You to AngiBe and DC2 for taking the time and money to get Tribeca tested! Tribeca, Menthol Ice and Malibu remain some of the very best liquids I have enjoyed, year after year.
I haven't noticed any change whatsoever in Tribeca over the years.
But two-year old liquid may not taste right.
That's definitely pushing it as far as shelf life goes.
Thanks, DC2! I feel better about vaping it, now. It tastes just like it did when I first opened it 2 years ago. I haven't kept it in the fridge or freezer, and it's been through extremes of heat, and high and low humiditiy. Not sure how the nicotine potency has held up, but seems to be OK.
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