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[virm]

hello hello and thanks for the suggestions, don't know what was up with my alerts. either that or i've been opening a tab and forgetting it.

so my temporary fix is failing. still need to recheck with a second mod once a new set of batteries arrive, that it's not the mod that's over cooking everything.
i got the stupid skrr-s tank and a whole bunch of coils. leaking, gurgling, spitback, burning, you name it. already thrown out 4 coils. GTs and QFs. first two days.

looks like i should be doing the shift to something else sooner. i'll wait for a sale, but the first one to come. so gotta decide on everything to get, incl. cotton, coils and tools.

what i essentially need is something (R)DL. I'm fine with the Zlide for my real MTL with high nic. Need something to replace the DL tanks. Mine were the old Cleito tank that came with Aspire K4 starter kit, the Nunchaku 2 and the Skrr s.

I want something like the CLeito and Nunchaku2, i.e. a DL that's not very airy, definitely less restrictive than the Zlide when i go for a looser setup (i.e. when i use the lower resistance coils and open the airflow). I did love the flavour and flow from the Cleito and the nunchaku2 was great as well.

i am eyeing (order of seriousness):

the Brunhilde MTL. the important questions is can i get it to r--DL with lower resistance coils? [the dual coil one is just too big)

VV Pyro V3, it seems really easy to wick, just dropping the cotton into the tank and of good quality. but i'm worried about the little capacity and worried it might be too airy. it's got the plus of the coil-cutting ruler

the Dead Rabbit, but not sure which as there's a TPD1, 2, a standard and a MD. and i'm not sure of it's quality.

the Zues i'm not too sure about, found a couple of threads here about issues. also not sure X or the older is better.

also going simply by how recently theyv'e been added to FT, presuming newer should be better build i've put the following on the wishlist, and about to hit the review for them (also in order of seriousness)

VV Kylin M.
Steel Vape Tailspin.
Cthulu Mulan
Wismec Kestrel
Dejavu

All the standard issues are of equal importance to me. Spitback, leaking, gurgling, and good wicking. At this point i'm so frustrated by these issues in subohm tanks that i can't think of easy coiling and wicking as an issues_ except of course insofar as they are detrimental to not having the former problems.

[not sure i should add this negative bit]
i have taken the addage about not seeking the perfect device etc. but i think i've paid my dues and seriously don't want to have to keep doing this. for a minute there i was enjoying myself and thought, i might keep vaping a while even after i've overcome the nicotine. now i just want something to help get there in a year or so then i'd want out.

 

[Daniel Forsyth]

hello hello and thanks for the suggestions, don't know what was up with my alerts. either that or i've been opening a tab and forgetting it.

so my temporary fix is failing. still need to recheck with a second mod once a new set of batteries arrive, that it's not the mod that's over cooking everything.
i got the stupid skrr-s tank and a whole bunch of coils. leaking, gurgling, spitback, burning, you name it. already thrown out 4 coils. GTs and QFs. first two days.

looks like i should be doing the shift to something else sooner. i'll wait for a sale, but the first one to come. so gotta decide on everything to get, incl. cotton, coils and tools.

what i essentially need is something (R)DL. I'm fine with the Zlide for my real MTL with high nic. Need something to replace the DL tanks. Mine were the old Cleito tank that came with Aspire K4 starter kit, the Nunchaku 2 and the Skrr s.

I want something like the CLeito and Nunchaku2, i.e. a DL that's not very airy, definitely less restrictive than the Zlide when i go for a looser setup (i.e. when i use the lower resistance coils and open the airflow). I did love the flavour and flow from the Cleito and the nunchaku2 was great as well.

i am eyeing (order of seriousness):

the Brunhilde MTL. the important questions is can i get it to r--DL with lower resistance coils? [the dual coil one is just too big)

VV Pyro V3, it seems really easy to wick, just dropping the cotton into the tank and of good quality. but i'm worried about the little capacity and worried it might be too airy. it's got the plus of the coil-cutting ruler

the Dead Rabbit, but not sure which as there's a TPD1, 2, a standard and a MD. and i'm not sure of it's quality.

the Zues i'm not too sure about, found a couple of threads here about issues. also not sure X or the older is better.

also going simply by how recently theyv'e been added to FT, presuming newer should be better build i've put the following on the wishlist, and about to hit the review for them (also in order of seriousness)

VV Kylin M.
Steel Vape Tailspin.
Cthulu Mulan
Wismec Kestrel
Dejavu

All the standard issues are of equal importance to me. Spitback, leaking, gurgling, and good wicking. At this point i'm so frustrated by these issues in subohm tanks that i can't think of easy coiling and wicking as an issues_ except of course insofar as they are detrimental to not having the former problems.

[not sure i should add this negative bit]
i have taken the addage about not seeking the perfect device etc. but i think i've paid my dues and seriously don't want to have to keep doing this. for a minute there i was enjoying myself and thought, i might keep vaping a while even after i've overcome the nicotine. now i just want something to help get there in a year or so then i'd want out.

The Brunhilde MTL RTA is your Winner
I've been using one for a while now and I can tell you confidently that you can get get a very nice Restricted DL vape from it.
That is my type of vaping, RDL. I vape between 15.5 watts and 17.5 watts with the Brunhilde and the builds I use in there.
It's an absolutely fantastic tank, I Highly Recommend

 

[DeloresRose]

If you’re concerned about possible leaking, start with top air tanks. Watch some videos and see how others wick them. I’ve bought all sorts of RTAs you’ll see mentioned on the forum and they each have their own little quirks, but none are all that fussy. If they were that bad about leaking, I really doubt they’d be so popular.

 

[virm]

The Brunhilde MTL RTA is your Winner
I've been using one for a while now and I can tell you confidently that you can get get a very nice Restricted DL vape from it.
That is my type of vaping, RDL. I vape between 15.5 watts and 17.5 watts with the Brunhilde and the builds I use in there.
It's an absolutely fantastic tank, I Highly Recommend

so it can't take higher than that? i'm not sure if the effect of the wattage is completely different with rebuildables. but the range i was thinking was 40-60. techinically it's true DL but the tanks i like aren't airy, hence i say retricted a bit.

the range of 10s and 20s is extremely pleasurable and probably enough i know. i am enjoykng the zlide, despite the lack of flavour. but that old cleito and on good days the nuchaku2... that was yum-my!

@DeloresRose that's wht i told myself about skrr-s and gt coils... 3 burnt coils, 50 papertowels, three shirts and two pants ago. ___ thought's actually half phrased in my mind: people buy anything

 

[Daniel Forsyth]

so it can't take higher than that? i'm not sure if the effect of the wattage is completely different with rebuildables. but the range i was thinking was 40-60. techinically it's true DL but the tanks i like aren't airy, hence i say retricted a bit.

the range of 10s and 20s is extremely pleasurable and probably enough i know. i am enjoykng the zlide, despite the lack of flavour. but that old cleito and on good days the nuchaku2... that was yum-my!

@DeloresRose that's wht i told myself about skrr-s and gt coils... 3 burnt coils, 50 papertowels, three shirts and two pants ago. ___ thought's actually half phrased in my mind: people buy anything

It can take higher watts than what I'm vaping at(17watts) but I don't need to vape any higher

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

are we at a point where one can carry RTA thru day, expect no leaks and easy filling?

To my knowledge there really is no such RTA available. The reliability of an RTA not to leak is 100% dependent on your ability to wick it properly for the coil you use, the wattage you're vaping at and the juice you fill the tank with.

And if you're not willing to wrap your own coils (which is the easiest part of building a deck), then its unlikely you are going to want to spend the time figuring out how to wick it properly given the above parameters. This is just my opinion.

IMHO, RTAs are great - I have many - but not really a good choice for those who want care-free/trouble-free vaping experiences.

RTAs are to vaping like to the RYO is to smoking - it ain't for everyone.

 

[AvaOrchid]

Hi all,
Thinking abt ordering myself a first RTA this sale season... questions!

1:: is it reasonable to never make own wire? as in are pre-wrapped, measured, etc. coils ready for deck and cotton (minus the snip snip) easily available? can i stick to Kanthal and normal Wattage mode?
and are we at a point where one can carry RTA thru day, expect no leaks and easy filling?

I know it might be natural progression bring me here, but the push really was leaking. My MTL stock coil is fine, but I don't want to keep buying subohm tank+stock coils only to realise it's going to leak unexpectedly. Esp. since my latest disappointment came from the ever so highly recommended UWell... it dumps and gurgles.

2. if the first answers are yes::::what should i get that's eay to set up, doesn't leak, easy to fill, can be adjusted toward RDL, preferrably comes with ready kanthal coils?

i've seen a couple of reviews, and the Bulk seemed reasonable, only maybe too big?

I don't take my mods outside of the house it's just the way I am I have all in ones that go out and about with me and my mods stay home. However I would be completely comfortable taking the doggystyle clone with the bottom fill out and about. It does have bottom airflow control but I have never seen even a slight bit of wetness in the airflow let alone coming out of it. I didn't even have the proper ring to tighten down the collar of the drip tip and it still didn't leak.

Now it's not a glass tank and you cannot get a glass tank for it so that can be a big downside for a lot of people and also its bottom fill so a lot of people don't want to mess with that. It's cheap as chips it builds easy it's really easy to wick it's a little fiddly to get the coil in there because it is kind of small on the build deck but it's nothing that you can't overcome. Now the one thing that I think does not fit is it's not going to go well with most like large pre-wrapped coils because it is a small deck you can get a mouth to lung like Vandy Vape style pre-wrapped coil in there with no problem but if you want to put on a big old thick coil this probably wouldn't be the best RTA to do that on. It is a single coil and it's not what I would call true-to-life mouth to lung but rather a loose mouth to lung all the way to a restricted direct

Also considering the price of it is like around $11 if you drop this thing while you're out and about it's not going to be a problem you can get replacement acrylic tanks for it for like 5 tanks for $6

I'm not sure if it really fits your description but I'm just trying to think of what I would consider a tank that anyone could use successfully and that is the one I think of full disclosure I don't have a ton of experience I'm fairly new like a couple months so take my suggestion with a grain of salt but for $11 you don't have much to lose.

 

[Daniel Forsyth]

so it can't take higher than that? i'm not sure if the effect of the wattage is completely different with rebuildables. but the range i was thinking was 40-60. techinically it's true DL but the tanks i like aren't airy, hence i say retricted a bit.

the range of 10s and 20s is extremely pleasurable and probably enough i know. i am enjoykng the zlide, despite the lack of flavour. but that old cleito and on good days the nuchaku2... that was yum-my!

@DeloresRose that's wht i told myself about skrr-s and gt coils... 3 burnt coils, 50 papertowels, three shirts and two pants ago. ___ thought's actually half phrased in my mind: people buy anything

If you're looking for between a 40-60 watt vape I don't recommend the Brunhilde MTL, the Brunhilde Dual coil would be more suitable for you.
But you said it's too big, so search for a different tank

 

[virm]

evidently no dependable stock DL tanks either.

people really sit and make aliens? and what happens to the wire you buy but decide you don;t like the material?

watched quite a dozen reviews for rb-d-tas and the wicking doesn't seem too difficult. vic, at least, tells you what the trick for each tank is. one or two others also show some details. wouldn't mind learning a bit

put this way, the couple of years i rolled my own logs i mostly sat to roll 50 or so for the next couple of days. they were tastier, but dint smoke as smoothly. went back ready ones dspite the ridiculous cost.

@Daniel Forsyth because one coil can't take that much wattage? or because the air isn't enough?

not sure what the wattage does on a rebuildable, if it's the result is the same as stockcoiltanks then yes: both favoured DLs were in that range, denser breath but quite wet 40-55 and 0.2ohm.
Skrr s is too airy and dry, with the two coil types ive tried thus far. there's more on the way_ sadly. im already wondering how i might be able to sell it.

@AvaOrchid i have indeed started thinking i went too giddy with the mods and tanks. maybe should've stuck to a pico and MTL or explored a larger/fancier pod, and just kept using the non-variable wattrage starter kit at home.

 

[virm]

There's a skyhook kit for 10euro for the next three hours on cigabuy

 

[AngeNZ]

hello hello and thanks for the suggestions, don't know what was up with my alerts. either that or i've been opening a tab and forgetting it.

so my temporary fix is failing. still need to recheck with a second mod once a new set of batteries arrive, that it's not the mod that's over cooking everything.
i got the stupid skrr-s tank and a whole bunch of coils. leaking, gurgling, spitback, burning, you name it. already thrown out 4 coils. GTs and QFs. first two days.

looks like i should be doing the shift to something else sooner. i'll wait for a sale, but the first one to come. so gotta decide on everything to get, incl. cotton, coils and tools.

what i essentially need is something (R)DL. I'm fine with the Zlide for my real MTL with high nic. Need something to replace the DL tanks. Mine were the old Cleito tank that came with Aspire K4 starter kit, the Nunchaku 2 and the Skrr s.

I want something like the CLeito and Nunchaku2, i.e. a DL that's not very airy, definitely less restrictive than the Zlide when i go for a looser setup (i.e. when i use the lower resistance coils and open the airflow). I did love the flavour and flow from the Cleito and the nunchaku2 was great as well.

i am eyeing (order of seriousness):

the Brunhilde MTL. the important questions is can i get it to r--DL with lower resistance coils? [the dual coil one is just too big)

VV Pyro V3, it seems really easy to wick, just dropping the cotton into the tank and of good quality. but i'm worried about the little capacity and worried it might be too airy. it's got the plus of the coil-cutting ruler

the Dead Rabbit, but not sure which as there's a TPD1, 2, a standard and a MD. and i'm not sure of it's quality.

the Zues i'm not too sure about, found a couple of threads here about issues. also not sure X or the older is better.

also going simply by how recently theyv'e been added to FT, presuming newer should be better build i've put the following on the wishlist, and about to hit the review for them (also in order of seriousness)

VV Kylin M.
Steel Vape Tailspin.
Cthulu Mulan
Wismec Kestrel
Dejavu

All the standard issues are of equal importance to me. Spitback, leaking, gurgling, and good wicking. At this point i'm so frustrated by these issues in subohm tanks that i can't think of easy coiling and wicking as an issues_ except of course insofar as they are detrimental to not having the former problems.

[not sure i should add this negative bit]
i have taken the addage about not seeking the perfect device etc. but i think i've paid my dues and seriously don't want to have to keep doing this. for a minute there i was enjoying myself and thought, i might keep vaping a while even after i've overcome the nicotine. now i just want something to help get there in a year or so then i'd want out.

Top air RTAs are relatively leak proof, compared to bottom air RTAs. Have a peek through this thread of top air RTA reviews:
Top air RTAs

After each review - other users usually chime in with their experience of that RTA. If you find a couple you like the look of, ask in that thread any questions you have.

Have fun

 

[virm]

@AngeNZ thanks. you've already referred me to it previous page. thats where i started from

 

[AngeNZ]

@AngeNZ thanks. you've already referred me to it previous page. thats where i started from

Duh - sorry long day

 

[virm]

you copied it didn't you

Duh - sorry long day

thoughts on skyhook set? i know it's old and can leak if not properly made and that it's generally airy. have you used it? looks real easy to build on it and i'm wondering hwo good it still stands dspite how old and if it would still be airy with more closed airflow, like only having the bottom open

just that there's a seckill sale on cigabuy... 9.90euro.

 

[AvaOrchid]

@AvaOrchid i have indeed started thinking i went too giddy with the mods and tanks. maybe should've stuck to a pico and MTL or explored a larger/fancier pod, and just kept using the non-variable wattrage starter kit at home.[/QUOTE]
Oh don't get me wrong I have a nice little collection of mods probably about a dozen I'm just an absolute clumsy bumbling ..... when I'm outside of my own house and will definitely drop it on the ground and then probably step on it trying to grab it so that's why they stay at home LOL
I'll tell you something that when I was first getting into rta's before I had purchased my first one that somebody told me that helped a lot.
They said basically because I was new I could get just about anything and probably be quite happy with it because I had nothing to compare it to. No preconceived notions and no strong expectations.
Now there are some tanks that are harder than others in some ways but even on a well-loved like super popular RTA you're going to see people who are like this is a piece of trash I hate it, leaks everywhere, it doesn't Vape right, I can't build on it, etc. I promise you that putting a coil in it is going to be relatively easy as long as you take your time the first time and you don't get overly frustrated if your results arent great.

Also the first time I put a coil in an RTA I was so overly nervous and it wasn't ohming right. So I popped onto the Forum asked my question and I swear within 2 minutes I got an answer.

I actually find building including making my own basic coils to be very very soothing I'm not making Clapton's I'm just coiling Clapton wire but it's still nice because I can make it exactly to how I want it and I don't have to pay $3 per coil to do it.

I hope you find exactly what you're looking for it but remember if you hit a snag there's a whole group of people who would like nothing more than to help you on this forum to be successful

 

[AngeNZ]

you copied it didn't you


thoughts on skyhook set? i know it's old and can leak if not properly made and that it's generally airy. have you used it? looks real easy to build on it and i'm wondering hwo good it still stands dspite how old and if it would still be airy with more closed airflow, like only having the bottom open

just that there's a seckill sale on cigabuy... 9.90euro.

I didn't even copy the post, just completely forgot about it

OK, the advantage of a top-air RTA over a bottom air RTA is leaking. With a bottom air, you need to get the wicking right for that RTA or it may gurgle, or seep through the airflow hole.

So any single coil top-air RTA would suit you. Some suggestions:
Authentic GeekVape Zeus X RTA 4.5ml 25MM - Black

Authentic Augvape Intake RTA 4.2/2.5ML 24MM - Black

Authentic Ehpro Kelpie RTA 3.5ml 25mm - Silver

 

[virm]

I didn't even copy the post, just completely forgot about it

OK, the advantage of a top-air RTA over a bottom air RTA is leaking. With a bottom air, you need to get the wicking right for that RTA or it may gurgle, or seep through the airflow hole.

So any single coil top-air RTA would suit you. Some suggestions:
Authentic GeekVape Zeus X RTA 4.5ml 25MM - Black

Authentic Augvape Intake RTA 4.2/2.5ML 24MM - Black

Authentic Ehpro Kelpie RTA 3.5ml 25mm - Silver

yes. established. and i take the Brunhilde is among these. Wondering however whether these guys handle wattage in the whereabouts of 50... this is just me assuming the wattage/resistance yields the same result as stock coils (which i am not at all certain about). Sweet spot DLing for me thus far is 40-60 with 0.2ohm. Admittedly I haven't succesfully tried much else.

 

[AvaOrchid]

yes. established. and i take the Brunhilde is among these. Wondering however whether these guys handle wattage in the whereabouts of 50... this is just me assuming the wattage/resistance yields the same result as stock coils (which i am not at all certain about). Sweet spot DLing for me thus far is 40-60 with 0.2ohm. Admittedly I haven't succesfully tried much else.

Honestly when I went from using stock coils 2 using coils I wrapped I didn't need as high wattage to get better results I don't know if that's exactly what you were asking. With commercial coils I was having to use way higher wattage and I got less vapor and less flavor especially those flavor.

The wattage you use depends more on the coil that you make and less on the rba that you get. The rba just holds whatever you're using. As long as you can fit the build on the deck without it shorting out by touching any of the cap metal the rba will not have a problem with whatever you want to do. Now if you're using simple round wire and it's thin enough and you use high enough wattage you can get to a point where you pop the wire it will just break because the wattage is too high for it to handle. But you're not going to be using really really thin round wire especially not at first.

I've commercial coils compared to wrapped coils or even pre-wrapped coils that are just simply wire are not really comfortable in my opinion. Now I'm oriented more towards flavor than towards clouds so I tend to use more simple wire but if you want to Cloud Chase there is definitely wire out there for you.

Basically there is not a good comparison between the wattage you use with a stock coil and the wattage that you're going to be used with your wires. The thicker the wire the higher the wattage that you're going to need to achieve what results you want in general you're going to get better results less wattage in my experience with coils that are just metal n wick rather than stock coils.

So you may not need 50 Watts but yes you can absolutely use 50 Watts depending on what kind of wire you get and how thick it is

 

[virm]

Honestly when I went from using stock coils 2 using coils I wrapped I didn't need as high wattage to get better results I don't know if that's exactly what you were asking. With commercial coils I was having to use way higher wattage and I got less vapor and less flavor especially those flavor.

The wattage you use depends more on the coil that you make and less on the rba that you get. The rba just holds whatever you're using. As long as you can fit the build on the deck without it shorting out by touching any of the cap metal the rba will not have a problem with whatever you want to do. Now if you're using simple round wire and it's thin enough and you use high enough wattage you can get to a point where you pop the wire it will just break because the wattage is too high for it to handle. But you're not going to be using really really thin round wire especially not at first.

I've commercial coils compared to wrapped coils or even pre-wrapped coils that are just simply wire are not really comfortable in my opinion. Now I'm oriented more towards flavor than towards clouds so I tend to use more simple wire but if you want to Cloud Chase there is definitely wire out there for you.

Basically there is not a good comparison between the wattage you use with a stock coil and the wattage that you're going to be used with your wires. The thicker the wire the higher the wattage that you're going to need to achieve what results you want in general you're going to get better results less wattage in my experience with coils that are just metal n wick rather than stock coils.

So you may not need 50 Watts but yes you can absolutely use 50 Watts depending on what kind of wire you get and how thick it is

Thanks. Yes, I was asking whether the wattage to resistance relation is the same, figuring it wouldn't be.

It is not really cloud chasing per se. I've use a pod, 1 MTL and 3 DL tanks thus far. Had the known result of more flavour and denser vapour with DLs. The density is like a matter of texture for me more than the way it looks, not sure if that is cloud chasing. On my latest DL tank (Skrr S) there's a big cloud, but the vapour is dry and thin in my mouth and it is simply too airy. Oddly enough I think my first starter kit tank (oldest Aspire Cleito from 2015/16) was my favourite, the second (UWell Nunchaku 2) had its moments, where it was best, but not consistently. The latter two are cloud chuckers I guess, but there's enough restriction. They both also require less power.

The MTL I use (Zlide) is a great vape, despite the little flavour and the softer density. I've been using it most because it's most dependable on leaking, gurgling, harder to burn coils, etc.

My goal was to have the MTL for high nic when I'm crrunched for time and can only vape on breaks, then use a DL for low nic when I'm vaping at length, working from home or outdoors (work is reading and writing).

Now I've had to significantly lower the MTL nic because I'm using it all the time, I could a second for the high nic / low nic. But it is less satisfying with low nic than a DL, where the flavour and density somehow fill in for nic consumption, or distract or something.

I figured a coil is a coil and it can take the heat it can take. But if it's a MTL rta like the smaller Brunhilde would the air slots allow DLing with 70VG and the right coil? would it be as flavourful as a good DL stock-coil-tank?

 

[AngeNZ]

Thanks. Yes, I was asking whether the wattage to resistance relation is the same, figuring it wouldn't be.

It is not really cloud chasing per se. I've use a pod, 1 MTL and 3 DL tanks thus far. Had the known result of more flavour and denser vapour with DLs. The density is like a matter of texture for me more than the way it looks, not sure if that is cloud chasing. On my latest DL tank (Skrr S) there's a big cloud, but the vapour is dry and thin in my mouth and it is simply too airy. Oddly enough I think my first starter kit tank (oldest Aspire Cleito from 2015/16) was my favourite, the second (UWell Nunchaku 2) had its moments, where it was best, but not consistently. The latter two are cloud chuckers I guess, but there's enough restriction. They both also require less power.

The MTL I use (Zlide) is a great vape, despite the little flavour and the softer density. I've been using it most because it's most dependable on leaking, gurgling, harder to burn coils, etc.

My goal was to have the MTL for high nic when I'm crrunched for time and can only vape on breaks, then use a DL for low nic when I'm vaping at length, working from home or outdoors (work is reading and writing).

Now I've had to significantly lower the MTL nic because I'm using it all the time, I could a second for the high nic / low nic. But it is less satisfying with low nic than a DL, where the flavour and density somehow fill in for nic consumption, or distract or something.

I figured a coil is a coil and it can take the heat it can take. But if it's a MTL rta like the smaller Brunhilde would the air slots allow DLing with 70VG and the right coil? would it be as flavourful as a good DL stock-coil-tank?

If you are after vapour density and flavour - it's still flavour-chasing, just DL flavour-chasing. And the majority of the newer DL top-air and bottom-air RTAs will produce that.

@Daniel Forsyth knows this MTL RTA the best, and needs to chime in here But, I would think, using the largest 2.5mm id insert, or no insert (if you can) - with a beefy 3mm id fused clapton coil, you would get plenty of vapour density and flavour using 70vg/30pg juice.

And the flavour from a decent RTA should normally produce way better flavour than a good DL stock coil tank - there are some tanks however, that do give you rta-like flavour eg Freemax Mesh Pro tank.

This is a Chinese site like Fasttech, but they have a German warehouse - which would mean faster shipping for you:
(Ships from Germany)Authentic Brunhilde 23mm MTL RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer 5ml - Silver

(Ships from Germany)Coil Father Pre-built NI80 Coils 28GA*4+38GA 0.22ohm 3mm 10pcs - N04
These fused clapton coils should produce PLENTY of vapour and flavour at 40 watts and above.