Discussing the NicoStick

[chuckie]

From marlboro_man: (answers in red)
Hi Chuck

Looks okay cant quite see it all though


On the smaller one ..is that the pump bottle from ebay? If you mean the smallest picture, no, it is the breath-spray bottle from CVS. if you mean the smaller bottle, yes it is the same, but the cap is from the CVS bottle
looks different or you still have the cap on it ?? No, the cap was taken off of the CVS breath-spray bottle and we drilled directly into the top of the sprayer so it fits our tubing

if so it wont pump properly? it works, one pump seems to be sufficient

Hopefully these new pictures will you understand what I've done
I'm going to try your method and I'll report back after

Tube and nozzle above is the cap that fits over the tube

CVS Pharmacy "Breath Freshening mist Mint Breeze" bottle comes in a 2 pack

Top of the bottle with the long tube for the longer bottle size (6.5 mL)

The cap of the bottle with the bottle that we put the tube through

 

[marlboro_man]

Buy CVS Breath Freshening Mist Twin Pack Mint Breeze online at CVS.com

From marlboro_man: (answers in red)
Hi Chuck

Looks okay cant quite see it all though


On the smaller one ..is that the pump bottle from ebay? If you mean the smallest picture, no, it is the breath-spray bottle from CVS. if you mean the smaller bottle, yes it is the same, but the cap is from the CVS bottle
looks different or you still have the cap on it ?? No, the cap was taken off of the CVS breath-spray bottle and we drilled directly into the top of the sprayer so it fits our tubing

if so it wont pump properly? it works, one pump seems to be sufficient

Hopefully these new pictures will you understand what I've done
I'm going to try your method and I'll report back after

Tube and nozzle above is the cap that fits over the tube

CVS Pharmacy "Breath Freshening mist Mint Breeze" bottle comes in a 2 pack

Top of the bottle with the long tube for the longer bottle size (6.5 mL)

The cap of the bottle with the bottle that we put the tube through

chuckie

That all looks great and 1 pump is enough as I have found that if I pump twice then it will flood. So I tend to vape until I hit that burning taste and then pump once again...its tempting to pump more, but I try not to...

Where are you in the world?? I take it its Stateside somewhere??

this is the mist pumps HERE yes?

anyways

Keep it going,, it's nice to keep in touch

Art

 

[chuckie]

Hi Art, I found exactly as you,1 pump until burnt taste than pump again.
Those directions for drilling and gluing the cap were perfect,I don't know why I didn't think of reversing the cap. Anyway the whole setup is sitting on the table to dry. I'll glue it into the box again tomorrow and post a pic. Yes I'm in the States (miami ,Fl.)and once again thank you ever so much for the help....Chuck

 

[Blaze]

I have a question: since I screwed up and got the wrong pushbutton, will a 5a 125v button work? And the button is supposed to be a momentary normally open switch correct? (guess that was 2 questions LOL)

 

[nicowolf]

I have a question: since I screwed up and got the wrong pushbutton, will a 5a 125v button work? And the button is supposed to be a momentary normally open switch correct? (guess that was 2 questions LOL)

Yes, the switch will work just fine - we mostly want to make sure we are using a switch big enough to handle what we are sending through it - about an amp @ roughly 3.7 volts - a heartier switch will give a little more resistance but not enough to be worth worrying over. You would not notice the difference unless you did a very detailed analysis of the electric current.

The switch should be momentary - that means that the action that occurs when the switch is depressed only happens while it is depressed, not like the on/off button on your computer where it stays on when you let go until you press it again, more like a car horn where it stops when you let go of the button. It should also be "normally open" - the terms are a little confusing because they are opposite they way we intuitively want to say it. I am trying not to make the explanation complex; I can explain the wording in more detail, but really, the key words are "momentary" and "normally open". You may run into abbreviations too - mom. and N.O. are the abbreviations you are looking for.

In short, YES TO BOTH QUESTIONS.

 

[Kent C]

mod newbie here gathering ideas...

Wondering if anyone has seen (and where?) any buttons that are as flush as the JS V3:

http://www.heaven-gifts.com/syssite/home/shop/1/pictures/productsimg/big/424_20100107041932_2.jpg

Is it possible to get that a 14500 in that size of box? And can one get that matte black rubber-looking finish on a regular batt box?

 

[stroh22]

Nicowolf, it sure is great to see you back on the forum. I haven't seen any postings from you in such a long while. I was wondering if you went off and joined another. You are the queen of the mods, well as far as I'm concerned. You are the inspiration for many a modder, that anything is possible. I was hoping to build my first one this weekend but alas I never got around to it. Hopefully I'll get to it sometime this week.
Welcome back Nicowolf.

Dina

 

[marlboro_man]

I have a question: since I screwed up and got the wrong pushbutton, will a 5a 125v button work? And the button is supposed to be a momentary normally open switch correct? (guess that was 2 questions LOL)

I am not as knowledgable as nicowolf but in laymans terms

Momentary is what we need as a switch as it is only a moment (5 seconds maybe your choice) that we need to power the coil of the vapourizer

Open means that the switch is always open until pressed, and it being in a wired open circuit that is always open until we close it momentarilly using our Momentary switch so when we press the switch it closes the open circuit and make the power flow through the switch to the atty etc..

I normally use 1.5amps 125v "push to make" open momentary contact switches @3.7v and havn't had any problems

this is what I use also



SPST momentary switches--. Rated 1.5 amps at 125VAC and mounts in a 1/4'' hole.


Solder contacts rated 1.5A at 125VAC.
Requires 1/4 inch mounting hole.
Maximum 50 Volts Switching for Europe


just google >SPST Momentary Pushbutton Switch< should be at ratshak

i hope this helps a bit


Art

 

[Vadim]

I recently made a mod using 18650 batteries. Holy cow, I swap them every 24 hours but they are still putting out ~3.8 volts after a whole day of vaping.

Hello to all on this thread,
While reading this thread I wondered if I can make a mod using 18650 protected batteries (for longer vaping time) and then to my surpise you Paradiso mentioned that you did just that. Nico's instructions are well documented and I think I should be able to build a 510 mod. But I was wondering what type of 2xAA box I would need to hold a 18650 protected battery?
Would it be the same box as Nico suggest or a bigger box?
Battery holder: 2 x AA Covered Battery Holder with On-Off Switch - RoHS Compliant - BB2AA


Thank you for any help in advance.

 

[WillyB]

But I was wondering what type of 2xAA box I would need to hold a 18650 protected battery?
Would it be the same box as Nico suggest or a bigger box?

No ready to go box is available. You'll have to find a project box and add your own contacts. Figure the battery itself is about 19 X 67mm.

 

[marlboro_man]

Hello to all on this thread,
While reading this thread I wondered if I can make a mod using 18650 protected batteries (for longer vaping time) and then to my surpise you Paradiso mentioned that you did just that. Nico's instructions are well documented and I think I should be able to build a 510 mod. But I was wondering what type of 2xAA box I would need to hold a 18650 protected battery?
Would it be the same box as Nico suggest or a bigger box?
Battery holder: 2 x AA Covered Battery Holder with On-Off Switch - RoHS Compliant - BB2AA


Thank you for any help in advance.

The 2 X AA boxes are to shallow and to short to take the 18650 bat


The 18650 is 18mm diam x 650mm length hence the code 18650 3.7v nom

The AA battery is the same size nom. as a 14500 3.7v nom.
14500 diam =14mm x length 500mm hence the code 14500

You will have to find a project box to suit your needs, I use this supplier here

see post on page #429 for image

They are uk based I have tried the boxes from ratshack but they are really naf or to big and to clumsy looking



Art

 

[Vadim]

No ready to go box is available. You'll have to find a project box and add your own contacts. Figure the battery itself is about 19 X 67mm.

Thanks WillyB,
Wow that's one big ... battery LOL, maybe I'll stick the 14500's.

 

[Vadim]

The 2 X AA boxes are to shallow and to short to take the 18650 bat
The 18650 is 18mm diam x 650mm length hence the code 18650 3.7v nom

I just learned something new, seems like everyday I learn new cool stuff about E-Cigs.
Guess I'll stick with 14500.

Thank you marlboro_man

 

[Shortstuff116]

I did some searching and did find some 18650 protected battery holders (each one holds one battery) and ordered a couple from Dig-Key (link below). Once I got them I tried them and the protected 18650 UltraFires I have fit perfectly. My plan is to mount one inside an Altoids tin for my own NicoStick 510 mod.

18650 Battery Holder

Hope this helps.

 

[nicowolf]

Nicowolf, it sure is great to see you back on the forum. I haven't seen any postings from you in such a long while. I was wondering if you went off and joined another. You are the queen of the mods, well as far as I'm concerned. You are the inspiration for many a modder, that anything is possible. I was hoping to build my first one this weekend but alas I never got around to it. Hopefully I'll get to it sometime this week.
Welcome back Nicowolf.

Dina

Things just got intense and I got really overwhelmed8-o, so I took a VERY long break. I check in here on occasion, but not real regular. I really didn't do anything special besides slow down and explain a little more than most. The hope is that this will help everyone to better understand what everyone else is saying out there. I tuned out when they started talking about high tech stuff. I bet some others do too.

 

[Vadim]

To Shortstuff116:
Thanks for the link to 2AA box which will hold 18650 protected battery, as soon as one of my 510 batteries dies I will attempt to build a 510 Mod using NicoWolf's wonderful and detailed instructions.

To NicoWolf:
Just wanted to say thank you for all the work you have done, I am sure your instructions have helped many people and I hope they will get me thru building my first Mod.

 

[WillyB]

To Shortstuff116:
Thanks for the link to 2AA box which will hold 18650 protected battery, as soon as one of my 510 batteries dies I will attempt to build a 510 Mod using NicoWolf's wonderful and detailed instructions.

You seem a bit confused. The link is to an 18650 battery holder.

A 2AA box usually refers to this (which will not hold 18650's).

 

[Vadim]

WillyB you are correct and thanks for example pics, now I understand what Shortstuff116 was trying to say. He will "mount one inside an Altoids tin" to create his own BOX.
LOL!!! for a computer tech I'm a bit slow with this mod business, thanks guys.

 

[Shortstuff116]

Thanks WillyB for explaining and showing a picture of the 18650 holder, and yes that is what I hope to use it for, mounting one inside an Altoids tin. These are the only 18650 holders I've been able to find out there.

 

[Vadim]

I tried something just as a test to see if it works, took 2 10440 3.7v PROTECTED batteries and stacked them (one on top of the other) tape them up to hold in place. Both batteries were freshly of the charge @ 4.1v each and gave me readout on the meter of 8.2v. I proceeded to attach a cables, 1 to - side, 1 to + side, both of these cables to the 510 connector, have a bad atty which would not heat up with normal 510 battery but @ 8.2v this atty was creating tons of vapor.
All seemed to be working well, every so often I would check the voltage on the 2 stacked batteries, 8.0v, 7.7v, 7.5, 7.2v................vapor was great.

Then finally all stopped working, I thought that the batteries must have drained and it was time to recharge right. But to my surprise the battery which was stacked on top showed 0v and the one on the bottom showed 3.5v way above the safe discharge voltage of 2.7v. The top battery with 0v now does not charge at all.
Sorry for the long explanation, here come the questions.
Did I kill my 10440 PROTECTED battery because I stacked it?
Did I kill my 10440 PROTECTED battery because there may have been a short somewhere? (Did have wires scotched taped, just for the test)
Can PROTECTED batteries be stacked, YES or NO?
Was it some type of current going thru the battery which may have burned out the protection chip or over heated the battery?
Come to think of it I did smell something burning (my guess would be at around the time of 7.0v); I thought the smell was coming from the old atty and did not pay attention.
Any thoughts on this guys?


Thank you in advance.