Steve,thanks for the link and I believe i have read that whole thread too and tend to agree with some of the people on it. Like the 555 in the beginning of that list I would never mix that hi especially after reading this forum and Jimi always post a lot of info about tobaccos and I never seen him mix anything over 2-3 %. With that said I did try the ry4 asian and mixed it in pumpkin spice and a couple of other recipes. Thats why I want to venture out more and test the waters so to say