DIY Flavoring Thread - Part 2

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You can also leave the Nic in too if you want, as long as you use low heat,,,, you dont want to scorch it or go above 120c and your fine,,,but I leave my Nic out like I said earlier, and only mend my flavoring to my other additives and thats all. I stay under 120c,,,, using glass lab ware and an open flame works better then the Micro, but micro is fine as long as your not scorching and doing just a warming process,,, I've been using this system for some time and it does work very well for me,,, there are other juice makers doing this but with much higher tech equipment and special stirs
 

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just to be sure, do you mean 120f? 120c seems pretty hot.

No I mean 120c = 248f and staying under this temp, thats not so hot to Brew or cook with, think about when you set your oven to 225 or so, it's not that hot, and your not keeping it there to long, but staying under this and at certain temps for certain flavorings and juice mixes, each mix can be a bit different, but stay under 120c
 
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An extra 1% off for waiting for today's newsletter :p (the big payoff for my "gamble" ~ $0.70! hehe)

Has anyone ordered a eGo Vision (Stardust) tank from here? I'm hoping it's the "improved" version with better tank plastic and longer wicks. I've grown rather fond of it, but the dang thing is cracking already (no, no cinnamon or tarty flavors - just 'bacco's).
 

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An extra 1% off for waiting for today's newsletter :p (the big payoff for my "gamble" ~ $0.70! hehe)

Has anyone ordered a eGo Vision (Stardust) tank from here? I'm hoping it's the "improved" version with better tank plastic and longer wicks. I've grown rather fond of it, but the dang thing is cracking already (no, no cinnamon or tarty flavors - just 'bacco's).

Hey! 70 cents is 70 cents lol

I hate to say this but the flavors that I originally got from VZ (pretty sure they are the same) are losing flavor. I am positive about that now. I am guesstimating I mixed them at least 6 weeks ago and today most of them have very little flavor or smell.

Now, I did mix them in a different base than what I usually use so not sure if that could be contributing since I get hits of tasting just the nic with these flavors now too.

Still awesome flavorings but I may just keep mixing them in smaller batches. It is just weird for concentrated flavorings not to hold the flavor well. I use a lot of FA and I have some flavors that were mixed 6 months ago and they just keep getting better by the day.

I am going to mix some small batches using my normal base and put them away for a month just to see if there is any difference :)
 

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Sorry, wolcen but I am not a good one to ask about anything CE related. I gave up on them although I did try the Visions. I hated them too lol

If you have a syringe, try using the plastic tube from it for the tank part. I am using the newest ST DCT tanks and no cracks so far. I do vape cinnamon and fruits a lot.
 

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Hey! 70 cents is 70 cents lol

I hate to say this but the flavors that I originally got from VZ (pretty sure they are the same) are losing flavor. I am positive about that now. I am guesstimating I mixed them at least 6 weeks ago and today most of them have very little flavor or smell.

Now, I did mix them in a different base than what I usually use so not sure if that could be contributing since I get hits of tasting just the nic with these flavors now too.

Still awesome flavorings but I may just keep mixing them in smaller batches. It is just weird for concentrated flavorings not to hold the flavor well. I use a lot of FA and I have some flavors that were mixed 6 months ago and they just keep getting better by the day.

I am going to mix some small batches using my normal base and put them away for a month just to see if there is any difference :)


Salem, your touching on something I had mentioned a page or two back now, I wasnt going to go here because I was a bit skeptical about what you and some other might think and I didn't want to get into it because of how it might be taken. Remember I stated about how I like fresh is best ? I still stick with this and always will. I find there are some flavors that do get a little bit better after aging for a month or even 3, but,,, for the most part juice just does some different things at the 3-4 month mark, and at 6-8 it does it agian and this isnt for the better what I'm talking about at the 6-8 month point, not going to get into the whole process here but, Do this = take that juice that you say has no flavor and make the same exact batch in say 10-15 ml's mix it and let it steep for as long as you normally do, unless you use my brewing Technique then its ready tomorrow. Then taste that juice compared to this juice you say is losing flavor,,,, I think this will be a good comparison to what I'm trying to get across with my "fresh is best" system.

One of the reasons you see vendors push so much juice and also have sales when they do is because they know what will happen to there premade, and there Nic that is also aging, and even there flavorings,, not so much unopened flavorings,, but compared to premade or even Nic that's not stored properly in the cold and opened bottles of flavorings. They need to move this stuff out and discount it at 20%-50% or more at times when they have to move it, or else there stuck with trashing it.

Freshly brewed, and freshly steeped juice is by far best in my opinion, over juice that has been sitting long term. Try to think like this and do this on some juices, you will find you end up spilling out a lot less and losing less $$ long term. The freshly brewed or steeped also taste better then many juices that have been sitting.

It's why I will only make a months worth max of the juices I DIY, as well as only buy what I need more often then stockpiling up on supplies. For the most part you can have your Nic, flavorings and any other additives at your doorstep in 2-4 days, so there really isn't any reason to have more then a month or two's worth of goods on hand for the simple reason, "Fresh is Best" and granite yes there are some things that will and do last longer then a month or two, but I think you get my point here in what I'm trying to get across.

It's also why it's really good to keep good notes in a word Dock or recipe book, this way you just place an order for the flavorings/Nic/additives your gonna need in a smaller amount rather then a huge amount that you wont ever end up using, and if you do use it again 6-8 months down the road it wont be as good as the fresh stuff.

After all, .70 cents is .70 cents,, but over the course of a year dumping stuff and using stuff that isn't fresh can end up costing you more as well as not tasting as good :)
 
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Took your word on chocolate LM and ordered vani also, took 22 hours from placing order till in my mailbox.

Wow! That was fast. I love the Vanilla mixed with everything that I have tried it with. I have not tried the chocolate so let us know what you think. I hope that they work for you :)
 

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MW, I like all of my flavors fresh except for the FlavourArt. I enjoy the changes with the FA flavors.
I know that Capellas, PA, etc are not as good with age. But, since these flavors are supposed to be concentrated, much like FA, I expected them to at least hold their flavor better than the less concentrated ones :)

I have had some of my FA flavors for more than a year that were absolutely heavenly. It is because the FA is so condensed. These flavors are said to be concentrated and seem to be when it comes to strength.
 
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Look Ma im sorry them ce3 bottom coils are not working out for you.
Im lucky in that department .

Placed that order Salem before you folks bought all the nic, vg, and pg from them with that 20% coupon.

Bought 1000ml bottles of each fell less than 50 cents short of free shipping so i bought 53 cent syringe thingy .
Gosh this thread moved quickly from last time i visit.
 

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Finally placed my first ECX order today. After all the frenzied cart filling, I ended up halving my cart to split up my spending between ECX and a competitor (for TPA & Seedmans).

The only "Express" items left in my cart ended up being TE Virginia, FE Blackberry, and FE Vanilla. I dropped a few more tobacco's after looking at the flavor profiles for the FA tobaccos and deciding I really REALLY want to try their Cuban Supreme and Latakia.

I ended up getting substitutes of many of the other flavor suggestions in TPA variety - hopefully they're good (PB, Marshmallow, Toffee, etc) so thanks again for all those suggestions!

Gonna be a really exciting week for me in the "flavor lab" :)
 
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