Djarum Specials - equivalent juice/recipe?

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I posted this in a thread in the DIY section, and tried 3 times to post it today, but 15 minutes of typing down the drain "Server Busy". So here I go again:

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I just mixed 4 drops of Eugenol oil with 10ml of base, it is the perfect clove ejuice!

For those that like clove you must try this!
Eugenol Natural - 2.5ml vial
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Eugenol!

Eugenol (C10H12O2), is an allyl chain-substituted guaiacol. Eugenol is a member of the phenylpropanoids class of chemical compounds. It is a clear to pale yellow oily liquid extracted from certain essential oils especially from clove oil, nutmeg, cinnamon, and bay leaf. It is slightly soluble in water and soluble in organic solvents. It has a pleasant, spicy, clove-like aroma.

The name comes from a scientific name for the clove, Eugenia aromaticum or Eugenia caryophyllata. Eugenol is responsible for the aroma of cloves. It is the main component in the essential oil extracted from cloves, comprising 72-90% of the total. Eugenol is used in perfumeries, flavorings, essential oils and in medicine as a local antiseptic and anesthetic.[1] It is a key ingredient in Indonesian kretek (clove) cigarettes.

I have ordered and used this and 4 drops in 10ml of plain ejuice it is perfect for me!

For those on the "Dont use eugenol" band wagon, the ingredient in eugenol that causes the numbness is the clove oil. Since eugenol is comprised of extracts from from clove oil, nutmeg, cinnamon, and bay leaf it is up to you if you want to use it. But this is what they use in the clove ciggies. I would not exceed more than 8 drops my self but it is up to you and your personal taste. If you love clove ciggies then you will love this!

Enjoy!
Dan

This absolutely works! This IS Djarum Special. I put about 5 or 6 drops in 6ml of Virginia 24mg ejuice and WOW! Identical to Djarum Specials. I can not thank you enough for this tip! ....and the e juice calculator! :D
 

Marcus W

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Not to be a bad influence on anyone, but Djarum's market will continue with their 12 pack of "cigars". Trust me, they are Djarum Special in a one-shade-lighter paper. They run $4.50 a pack around here (comparable to the 20 pack at $7.50-$8.00). The shop owner where I used to purchase my Djarum said they would also be producing a Black cigar; same thing-a cigarette/kretek in a cigar costume.

What are the new cigar's actually called? I am having NO luck finding them. And apparently, there's no way for me to message a user on this site? I'm trying to get in contact with TheLizinator, as she has seen the Djarum Special-like cigars. I cannot find any information on them, or info on where to order them, etc. Are you able to provide any assistance, Liz? A link perhaps?
THANKS!
 

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What are the new cigar's actually called? I am having NO luck finding them. And apparently, there's no way for me to message a user on this site? I'm trying to get in contact with TheLizinator, as she has seen the Djarum Special-like cigars. I cannot find any information on them, or info on where to order them, etc. Are you able to provide any assistance, Liz? A link perhaps?
THANKS!

Sorry, no help for ordering as I buy these at local retail tobacco shops. I have at least 6 of them in my own neighborhood and they began showing up as soon as the tobacco bill was signed. I was told they would continue stocking the cigars as the supply of regular kreteks dwindled. The regular 20 pack cigarettes are still available, they just aren't being restocked. I've never been able to purchase kreteks at anything but specialty tobacco shops.
 
This what you're lookin for Liz?


Welp, here is the complete Djarum recipe. Sheesh, no wonder they cost $8 a pack LOL

Kretek Recipe from Djarum.com:

In proportion to 100 parts tobacco:

Casing flavour compostion:

Maple sweet: 0.2
Chocolate: 0.2
Licorice: 0.4
Plum casing 0.3
Coffee: 0.35
Dried Nangka 0.35
Dried Fruit: 0.15

The above casing flavours are water-soluble and are suspended in a solution of humectants, invert sugar and water in the following proportions:

Humectants: 0.7
Invert sugar: 0.5
Water: 5

Top Flavour Compound:
Havana: 0.8

Top Flavour Compound:
Havana: 0.8
Manila: 0.4
Strawberry: 0.3
Pineapple: 0.35
Pisang ambon: 0.25
Clove enhancer: 0.25
Pruimen: 0.05
Aniseed oil: 0.3
Cassia extract: 0.3
Salak cider: 0.1
Vanilla: 0.2
Orange: 0.25
Total top flavours: 3.55
 

fuzzibuttons

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Here's a recipe from the DIY E-liquids forum. I have the ingredients on order for this and i'm just waiting for it to arrive. I would try adapting this recipe to get the specials flavor instead of the black flavor. It's been a while since I had a special, but I would suggest adding a touch of cinnamon and possibly cutting back the anise a bit.

Could you please tell me where you got the PG/VG mic also where you got the bottle and dropper or syring to measure it?

Thank you

Fuzzibuttons :rolleyes:
 

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This what you're lookin for Liz?


Welp, here is the complete Djarum recipe. Sheesh, no wonder they cost $8 a pack LOL

Kretek Recipe from Djarum.com:

In proportion to 100 parts tobacco:

Casing flavour compostion:

Maple sweet: 0.2
Chocolate: 0.2
Licorice: 0.4
Plum casing 0.3
Coffee: 0.35
Dried Nangka 0.35
Dried Fruit: 0.15

The above casing flavours are water-soluble and are suspended in a solution of humectants, invert sugar and water in the following proportions:

Humectants: 0.7
Invert sugar: 0.5
Water: 5

Top Flavour Compound:
Havana: 0.8

Top Flavour Compound:
Havana: 0.8
Manila: 0.4
Strawberry: 0.3
Pineapple: 0.35
Pisang ambon: 0.25
Clove enhancer: 0.25
Pruimen: 0.05
Aniseed oil: 0.3
Cassia extract: 0.3
Salak cider: 0.1
Vanilla: 0.2
Orange: 0.25
Total top flavours: 3.55



OMG! How does one ever mix all that? Is there any company out there that sells that mix? Fiants even thinkin of it! and yet i Love my kreteks!

Thanks,

Fuzzibuttons 8-o
 

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I used the Eugenol as well. Upped the 4 drops per 10mil to 5-6. I put it in a 1/2 full bottle of JC Clove. When I filled my cart, I topped off with a drop or 2 of vanilla. It added that first taste of sweet I used to get on the specials.

I'm going to experiment with a tobacco base when I get more flavorings in, but for right now, this is working really well.

Thanks so much for finding the Eugenol!!
 

vintageray

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Thanks for the eugenol tip. I checked the pharmacies and couldn't find any. I bought some essence of clove from an herb shop and it was horrible. Had to change my atomizer after I tried it. Had a nasty perfumy type taste, not good. What are you all using for a base to add the eugenol to and specifically where are you buying it from? Someone mentioned a "Virginia" base, but I haven't seen that sold anywhere.
 

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Hi! I'm a 30 year Djarum Special smoker, now vaper. I've tried a half a dozen different clove e-juices, but none have really hit that DS spot.

The closest I've found so far is the Black Djarum Clove from Heaven-Gifts. It's got a good real clove flavor with a light tobacco taste underneath, but it's not sweet. Dawn's clove from DIYflavorshack is really strong. Has that real clove numbing, but no sweetness or tobacco flavor.

I suspect that the Heaven-Gifts mixed with some of the DIYfs' clove and something spicy and sweet (maybe DIYfs' Red Hots?) might come really close. You could add additional clove oil to make up clove flavor strength if you needed to.

OTOH, I've found that the DIYflavorshack Red Hots satisfies my sweet spicy taste need. It's really delicious. I'm not terribly motivated to recreate Specials as I once was. :p

Update:

OK, you guys got me going. I've tried a couple of things and the second one is darn close to Djarum Specials.

DS Recipe (makes about 6ml)

2ml VG
1.5 ml Heaven-Gifts Black Djarum Clove
2 ml DIYflavorshack Red Hots
1 drop DIYflavorshack Clove
0.5ml Heaven-Gifts RY4

You may want to adjust the strength of the clove flavor with more or less DIYfs Clove. It's really really strong and a little makes a large difference. I tried four drops at first and it was too strong.

I suspect you could easily substitute other maker's flavors for the ones I used. For example the Liquidxpress Atomic Fireball could replace the DIYfs Red Hots. Probably could change the RY4 tobacco part too. The VG adds extra vapor and dilutes the flavor a bit; helps give a more realistic experience. I've got a few boxes of Djarum Specials and they're not real intense. You need the VG to reduce the intensity of the mix.

Anyway, thanks for getting me going on this. I really like this blend. :cool:
 
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I used the Eugenol as well. Upped the 4 drops per 10mil to 5-6. I put it in a 1/2 full bottle of JC Clove. When I filled my cart, I topped off with a drop or 2 of vanilla. It added that first taste of sweet I used to get on the specials.

I'm going to experiment with a tobacco base when I get more flavorings in, but for right now, this is working really well.

Thanks so much for finding the Eugenol!!

Your welcome, as I am revisiting this thread I decided to do a little experiment.

For those that like clove you must try this!
Eugenol Natural - 2.5ml vial

I just mixed 6 drops of Eugenol oil with 5 drops tobacco absolute diluted mix (2 drops tobacco absolute to 10ml of everclear) and .5ml of seedman.com commercial tobacco flavor top note to 9.4ml of (80% pg nic + 20% VG base) it is the a perfect clove tobacco flavored ejuice IMHO.

Hope you like it if you try it.
Dan
 

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Your welcome, as I am revisiting this thread I decided to do a little experiment.

For those that like clove you must try this!
Eugenol Natural - 2.5ml vial

I just mixed 6 drops of Eugenol oil with 5 drops tobacco absolute diluted mix (2 drops tobacco absolute to 10ml of everclear) and .5ml of seedman.com commercial tobacco flavor top note to 9.4ml of (80% pg nic + 20% VG base) it is the a perfect clove tobacco flavored ejuice IMHO.

Hope you like it if you try it.
Dan

I ordered some of this and I have to say that you are THE man, Dan :)
I bought a 15ml vial though, to make it worth the effort of ordering from CA. As a virgin clove smoker, this stuff is amazing. Definately my new all-day vape. I used this recipe ...

5ml Virginia 24mg
1ml VG
0.5ml Vodka
2 drops Lorann Cinnamon Roll
1 drop Menthol
4 drops Eugenol

It hits the spot other liquids cannot reach :)
 

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You guys are seriously lifesavers...after the ban, even with the "cigars"(I don't understand...the djarums have always used cigar tobacco, or at least partially) I've decided to switch to vaping. Waiting on my first 510 and VERY excited after this post, I'll definitely try to do what I can to match/find out what was in the djarum splash as well(sadly only tried it right before the ban)
 

vintageray

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I just stopped by the tobacco store for the first time since the ban and the clerk asked me where I'd been. I mentioned the ban and he brought me a carton of Specials, saying that only the Lights were banned and they had changed the packaging on the Blacks. He showed me a pack of Blacks that was the same as the normal Blacks, but said "cigars" at the bottom of the pack. He said they're the normal Blacks in a different box. I asked him if he was sure and when he'd gotten his last shipment of Specials and he said two days ago, on Nov. 4.
I bought a carton of Specials just to have one for a treat once in a while or when all my batteries are flat. Yes, I smoked one right away:). Nice to know I can still get them.
 

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The Specials I bought are the same, still in the same pack as always. Absolutely no change at all. Same exact pack. Says: 20 KRETEC Clove Cigarettes, as I said, same, same, no change. Smoked them exclusively for eight years after they quit importing the King Size which were like Specials, but a little more mild. Believe it or not, the normal Djarum Specials are still available. I just bought a carton and smoked two of them. Read my post. The man in the tobacco store told me that the ban did not effect the Specials, only the lights. However, I did notice that the Blacks were in a different box and said, "Cigars", but I didn't buy any and can't say what they are. I'm not lying and I know my cloves.
 

Vere

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the ban did not effect the Specials.

Over here, I sincerely wish that were true. I've got an empty box of the new special 'cigars' sitting next to me. Maybe his supplier has extra cartons around, but the originals are very difficult, if not impossible to find here sadly, so these recipes are a light shining in the darkness for me. May not be this way everywhere, but I haven't seen an original pack in a while, only the new 12 Cigar packs.
 
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