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well I clearly remember people going "omg the dna 200 supports ni200 and Ti" when the first info was coming out. Especially now that yihi has Ti support the dna 200 not having Ti support out of the box is making it look slightly inferior.

I seriously hope evolv just adds a Ti option.
Like put into "temperature picking" and then scroll up the temperature go past the 600 degrees fathrenheit and then it jumps into Ti mode.

I am sometimes worried evolv is going to throw too much focus on the escribe software if we have to use the program to even be able to set Ti settings. Would be nice if we could insert settings in the temperature setting mode like I said before like

100-600 degreesNi then it goes 100-600 degreesTi and so on. like if you insert a say SS setting it just keeps on going to next wire setups instead of having to set profiles for every single atomizer like you have to do now.
You could write them and suggest it :p
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I think the issue is that there are so many different titanium wires in use that making just one generic profile would be kinda pointless.
Titanium Grade 1 (providing it its chemistry is within the specification) has almost zero variability in temperature coefficient of resistivity. It' is also extremely insensitive to minor chemistry variations and the TCR is almost perfectly linear.

None of these things apply to Nickel wire because the Curie temperature is greatly affected by minor chemistry etc. and consequently TCR is extremely sensitive to minor chemistry variations. Nickel TCR is also nonlinear.

If someone thinks they can get by with setting a single Nickel TCR (which they really can't) then setting a single TCR value for Titanium is a total piece of cake.

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preheat.JPG

Where do you guys have your preheat settings?
 

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Hopefully wire vendors will supply the TCRs on the product details page in the future so we can get the best from any suitable alloy. The format is a pretty generic plain text list of normalised resistances at a few temperatures that could be adopted by any board maker.

Ari from Sweet Spot Vapor just sent me a .csv for their .5mm wire

SSV Ti .5.JPG

(I can't upload .csv file type here)
 

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Playing with a box design utilizing passive heat sinks in the board with active cooling via

AD0312HB-D50: ADDA INC: Fans & Cooling

And trying to think of the best way to power the fan only while hitting the mod. Using a separate fire button vs the onboard and wiring this guy to a mosfet with a splice off the switch for the mosfet gate would work without affecting the chip... Right?
 

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Playing with a box design utilizing passive heat sinks in the board with active cooling via

AD0312HB-D50: ADDA INC: Fans & Cooling

And trying to think of the best way to power the fan only while hitting the mod. Using a separate fire button vs the onboard and wiring this guy to a mosfet with a splice off the switch for the mosfet gate would work without affecting the chip... Right?
John (Evolv) has said he doesn't think heat sinks are needed and you would have to be vaping so much at 200 W to trip the chip too hot protection he didn't anyone would ever vape like that. IIRC this was assuming the board was bolted into a metal case with metal mounts.
 
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John (Evolv) has said he doesn't think heat sinks are needed and you would have to be vaping so much at 200 W to trip the chip too hot protection he didn't anyone would ever vape like that. IIRC this was assuming the board was bolted into a metal case with metal mounts.
to be fair. evolv also said they didn't see any point in more than 40 watts for vaping.
 

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John (Evolv) has said he doesn't think heat sinks are needed and you would have to be vaping so much at 200 W to trip the chip too hot protection he didn't anyone would ever vape like that. IIRC this was assuming the board was bolted into a metal case with metal mounts.


I totally agree but so far heat has already been a mild issue with me, not tripping the protection but I like to vape 150 watts if cloud chasing and this is going to be a SLS or SLM printed box not metal built specifically for high wattage use. Looking for 3-4,000 maH batteries as well. But then again I've carried huge boxes before.
 
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well I clearly remember people going "omg the DNA 200 supports ni200 and Ti" when the first info was coming out. Especially now that yihi has Ti support the DNA 200 not having Ti support out of the box is making it look slightly inferior.

I seriously hope evolv just adds a Ti option.
Like put into "temperature picking" and then scroll up the temperature go past the 600 degrees fathrenheit and then it jumps into Ti mode.

I am sometimes worried evolv is going to throw too much focus on the escribe software if we have to use the program to even be able to set Ti settings. Would be nice if we could insert settings in the temperature setting mode like I said before like

100-600 degreesNi then it goes 100-600 degreesTi and so on. like if you insert a say SS setting it just keeps on going to next wire setups instead of having to set profiles for every single atomizer like you have to do now.
tcr setting would be nice but I've been getting a fantastic vape with titanium on my rdna and we all know that device doesn't have it.
 
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tcr setting would be nice but I've been getting a fantastic vape with titanium on my rdna and we all know that device doesn't have it.
Using titanium on the rDNA is just inaccurate as all hell. pbusardo already showed that. To each their own but if I buy a TC device I kinda want it to work well instead of being off by a hundred degrees. but atleast the DNA 40 doesn't have the power to super overheat titanium wire.

It's almost as bad as people using nickel and titanium in normal mods and going "WOW SUCH A FANTASTIC VAPE".
 

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tcr setting would be nice but I've been getting a fantastic vape with titanium on my rdna and we all know that device doesn't have it.


But setting a TCR for a hybrid Kanthal/Titanium fused Clapton or similar that works with Temp..... Well that's WHY I have one... And yes it works AMAZINGLY for that coil as well
 

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Using titanium on the rDNA is just inaccurate as all hell. pbusardo already showed that. To each their own but if I buy a TC device I kinda want it to work well instead of being off by a hundred degrees. but atleast the DNA 40 doesn't have the power to super overheat titanium wire.

It's almost as bad as people using nickel and titanium in normal mods and going "WOW SUCH A FANTASTIC VAPE".
Not even close. It holds a temp, the temp is just off. Grasping straws are we? Anywho, the proclaimed tc king at the moment is the Dicodes, and if in Fahrenheit, the temp is off no matter what you use.
 

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Not even close. It holds a temp, the temp is just off. Grasping straws are we? Anywho, the proclaimed tc king at the moment is the Dicodes, and if in Fahrenheit, the temp is off no matter what you use.

I think that is what he meant, that the temperature is way off. A great vape is not necessarily an accurate vape. The dicodes is good yeah but not without its flaws as a device.
 
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