DNA 200 Watt

[turbocad6]

my latest build is running on a 600mah 3s pack. it's still more usable battery life than we used to get from the best high drain 18650's of only like 1.5 years ago, better than the aw 1,600's used to give, about equal to a 2,000mah 18650, that's really not bad and it makes for a tiny bottom feeder

 

[MrNobody]

a 900mah lipo is going to give you more usable battery life than the best 18650's out there. if you need an equivalent of a multi 18650 mod then yeah you need the huge batteries that are double the size but they are more equivalent to more than 2 18650's in usable life. 900mah is not bad at all and many get a whole day from it or almost, give it a usb boost here and there through the day like when driving and the 900mah should last most a whole day and not be huge.

I very rarely vape under 80w, usually in the .10-.20 ohm range between 80-115w and I feel like 900mah wouldn't last very long.

EDIT: I went ahead an ordered a mod from XEVape. Got the black 3D printed DNA 200 with the 2200mah 11.1v 3S 50c lipo. Should hold me over for a bit until the lava box comes out, assuming it's better, or until something ground breaking/top of the line is released. Saw a picture of a hobo customs DNA 200 box so here's hoping that actually goes into production.

 

[BrentMydland]

I very rarely vape under 80w, usually in the .10-.20 ohm range between 80-115w and I feel like 900mah wouldn't last very long.

EDIT: I went ahead an ordered a mod from XEVape. Got the black 3D printed DNA 200 with the 2200mah 11.1v 3S 50c lipo. Should hold me over for a bit until the lava box comes out, assuming it's better, or until something ground breaking/top of the line is released. Saw a picture of a hobo customs DNA 200 box so here's hoping that actually goes into production.

Same here. Usually in the 1ohm-ish range at 100-120w. I go through 1.5-2 sets of 2 2500mah batteries a day.

People need to remember that what works for some doesn't work for everyone else. Just because a 900 mah 3s is all you need doesn't mean its all everyone needs especially if its someones only or main mod since the majority of DNA200 devices don't have user swappable batteries. I wouldn't want to spend $200+ on a mod that would need to be almost constantly tethered to a usb which is what would happen with a 3s 900mah with my usage.

 

[suspectK]

Id rather let the chip choose my burst wattage for me. It seems to know what's best

What size wire and coil diameter are you using?

 

[Carnage9270]

Usually in the 1ohm-ish range at 100-120w.

Ummmm....

 

[turbocad6]

I think most people who aren't familiar with lipo's are looking to compare what to expect from a lipo compared to what they already know, which is most commonly an 18650. most normal mods hold one 18650 and this is what most are going to be comparing too.

if you need 4-6 18650's in a mod to last you all day then yeah, you're going to need about as many 900mah lipo's for a day or a monster pack, but you already have battery problems before this and extreme battery needs if you're going through 4-6 18650's a day... that is not what the majority are looking for, the majority is looking for something that is not much larger than what they're already using and at least as much capacity as what they are already used to using. if you're used to using 4-6 18650's a day then that's all well and good, you're going to look down your nose at a 900mah battery same as you would at only 1 18650. most people who are used to using a single 18650 mod will be satisfied with only 900mah. you don't have to be like most of course but I don't know how much sense it makes to run around saying 900mah is useless... yes, it's useless for you, but not for the majority of "normal" vapers

 

[Carnage9270]

To be fair, most "normal" vapers don't suck 200w from an 18650

 

[IanDVaypes]

What size wire and coil diameter are you using?

G1 TI, 3mm, 28 awg, 6 wraps and 0.43 ohms.

 

[Darkly spectr]

People tell me that I need to get my lazy ... off my computer chair and finish remaking my mod.

Was originally planning to use MDF blocks to mount the chip(epoxy it to the enclosure and use screws to mount the board) but then I realised the size of the blocks would be so damn tiny that it would be dangerous to cut those with the tools we have. so I am thinking of using those hardplastic blocks we have that we have in 1mm up to 6mm. those can be manually cut with cutters(6mm is a ..... though) without risking losing a finger on a saw blade. plus it won't crack like any wood would. I don't think that the chip itself gets SO HOT that it would do anything to the plastic. looked it up. the material is Polyethyleen which has a melting point of about 270 degrees fahrenheit. I don't think the chip region gets that hot.

Also the hana modz V200 is finally in europe.

YAY it costs 280 dollars over here. ah the joys of europe.

 

[tomr1088]

Looks like the production Hana is made.

 

[DonnyX]

I should have waited. I have the pre-production Hana model and the screen ribbon is pinched between the fire button. I still have my Opus DNA200


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[BrentMydland]

I think most people who aren't familiar with lipo's are looking to compare what to expect from a lipo compared to what they already know, which is most commonly an 18650. most normal mods hold one 18650 and this is what most are going to be comparing too.

if you need 4-6 18650's in a mod to last you all day then yeah, you're going to need about as many 900mah lipo's for a day or a monster pack, but you already have battery problems before this and extreme battery needs if you're going through 4-6 18650's a day... that is not what the majority are looking for, the majority is looking for something that is not much larger than what they're already using and at least as much capacity as what they are already used to using. if you're used to using 4-6 18650's a day then that's all well and good, you're going to look down your nose at a 900mah battery same as you would at only 1 18650. most people who are used to using a single 18650 mod will be satisfied with only 900mah. you don't have to be like most of course but I don't know how much sense it makes to run around saying 900mah is useless... yes, it's useless for you, but not for the majority of "normal" vapers

I was commenting to the people telling the guy who said he wants more than 900mah that he doesn't need it. Just because they don't doesn't mean he doesn't. Also from my personal experience it seems like dual battery mods are more common than single battery mods. I don't have any battery problems because with 18650s I can carry around an extra set very easily but with most lipos you can't which is why users like me would need something more than 900mas 3s lipos. I go through 2 sets a day. Occassionally when its a long day I'll throw in a third set at the end of the night.

I never once said 3s 900mah device are useless. I dont know where you are getting that from at all. My comment was only to the people telling the guy that asked for devices with larger than 900mah that 900 was plenty.

 

[BrentMydland]

Ummmm....

??? You don't have to build super low to run high wattage unless you are using mechs.

 

[turbocad6]

I was commenting to the people telling the guy who said he wants more than 900mah that he doesn't need it. Just because they don't doesn't mean he doesn't. Also from my personal experience it seems like dual battery mods are more common than single battery mods. I don't have any battery problems because with 18650s I can carry around an extra set very easily but with most lipos you can't which is why users like me would need something more than 900mas 3s lipos. I go through 2 sets a day. Occassionally when its a long day I'll throw in a third set at the end of the night.

I never once said 3s 900mah device are useless. I dont know where you are getting that from at all. My comment was only to the people telling the guy that asked for devices with larger than 900mah that 900 was plenty.

actually my post was not directed at just you, someone said that 900mah was useless, not worth the box it ships in while in reality it's got more usable battery life than the best 18650's out there. your saying you sometimes dip into your 3rd pair of 18650's... 6 18650's in one day so yeah you def need way more than a 900mah. I never said anyone doesn't need more than 900mah, only that it's not useless and it's impressive when compared to a good single 18650.

 

[Cotay]

I was commenting to the people telling the guy who said he wants more than 900mah that he doesn't need it. Just because they don't doesn't mean he doesn't. Also from my personal experience it seems like dual battery mods are more common than single battery mods. I don't have any battery problems because with 18650s I can carry around an extra set very easily but with most lipos you can't which is why users like me would need something more than 900mas 3s lipos. I go through 2 sets a day. Occassionally when its a long day I'll throw in a third set at the end of the night.

I never once said 3s 900mah device are useless. I dont know where you are getting that from at all. My comment was only to the people telling the guy that asked for devices with larger than 900mah that 900 was plenty.

As turbocad6 pointed out, the responses I've seen have not said that 900mAh is plenty...I think you've misread people. What we are taking issue with is someone saying that 900mAh devices are worthless; they are perfectly viable. And I'm not sure what experience you have, but single battery mods have historically been far more common than dual battery mods, except perhaps in the area of unregulated box mods.

 

[turbocad6]

personally I'm trying to find the smallest possible battery to last me all day. I vape around 6ml a day and so far I tried a 1,000 mah pack and it's more than enough for me, I ran the 6ml bottle from completely filled with only a tiny air bubble till dry as a bone with power to spare, only problem is it makes the mod pretty fat as a bottom feeder, but power wise that's better than any 18650's ever been, from vtc4's &5's to 25r's and whatever, no comparison, the 1,000 mah 3s pack beats them all hands down.

the 1,000 pack is very fat at 18mm+ so I tried going thinner and went with 3 single 600mah cells and was able to squeeze one in between the bottle and the chip in a T cell layout. now the whole mod is nice and small and very comfortable to use and easily pocketable, but with only the 3 600 cells it can't make it the full 6ml, it died at about 4ml from the first charge. I think it might get a little better after a few cycles, might make it closer to 5ml. right now even with only 600mah 3s it's getting as much life as a typical 1,800-2,000 mah 18650 would, so it's really not that bad, but I might have to give it a few 15min usb boosts during the day to make it run through the full 6ml

it might be worth it for me for a tiny mod. only way to squeeze more battery in is to make it bigger and I don't really want to gonna try to live with it and see, it's almost as small as the reference mod and it's got a 6ml bottle in there too

everybody's got different needs, if someone needs 4-6 18650's a day how much juice are they going thorough? sounds like ~16-24ml a day there... wow, I rarely go much more than 6 ml a day, 20 ml's a day is a lot of juice

 

[Cotay]

personally I'm trying to find the smallest possible battery to last me all day. I vape around 6ml a day and so far I tried a 1,000 mah pack and it's more than enough for me, I ran the 6ml bottle from completely filled with only a tiny air bubble till dry as a bone with power to spare, only problem is it makes the mod pretty fat as a bottom feeder, but power wise that's better than any 18650's ever been, from vtc4's &5's to 25r's and whatever, no comparison, the 1,000 mah 3s pack beats them all hands down.

the 1,000 pack is very fat at 18mm+ so I tried going thinner and went with 3 single 600mah cells and was able to squeeze one in between the bottle and the chip in a T cell layout. now the whole mod is nice and small and very comfortable to use and easily pocketable, but with only the 3 600 cells it can't make it the full 6ml, it died at about 4ml from the first charge. I think it might get a little better after a few cycles, might make it closer to 5ml. right now even with only 600mah 3s it's getting as much life as a typical 1,800-2,000 mah 18650 would, so it's really not that bad, but I might have to give it a few 15min usb boosts during the day to make it run through the full 6ml

it might be worth it for me for a tiny mod. only way to squeeze more battery in is to make it bigger and I don't really want to gonna try to live with it and see, it's almost as small as the reference mod and it's got a 6ml bottle in there too

everybody's got different needs, if someone needs 4-6 18650's a day how much juice are they going thorough? sounds like ~16-24ml a day there... wow, I rarely go much more than 6 ml a day, 20 ml's a day is a lot of juice

I used to think 20ml was a lot until the Sub Ohm tank era; someone could easily run through that much in one day on a Crown, Starre, etc.

 

[Darkly spectr]

so we finally got an atty for nickel builds yo.

 

[Spirometry]

ECC is here, where is the Vaporshark

 

[Mad Scientist]

so we finally got an atty for nickel builds yo.

I think a sustained 200 Watt capable build in that is a distinct possibility lol. Just need to buy juice by the gallon and it's good to go.