DNA 40, NR, Nickel Builds

[Every1jockzjay]

Im not home but my spool has some prettty crummy printing on it... Lookin at some pics of Lv spools their printing looks better... Im starting to think i got some bootleg ni200 on ebay...
Hypotheticallly if it is say ni400 is that even safe?!?
Im realllyyy realllyyy not trying to b that GUY blaming hardware, but for the life of me ive tried everything and if its not hardware i give up!!!!!! In all seriosness ive put in over 24 hrs of building in 3 weeks and still 460 degrees doesnt get me a sizzle...

 

[Every1jockzjay]

Heres a pic pf the crummy printing

 

[Every1jockzjay]

Im not going to say anything else until im sure what the problem is... I want to figure it out but dont want to jump to any conclusions before im sure what the exact problem is... I will update eventually when i figure it out

 

[Vapenstein]

my first build failed

28ga 10 wraps on a 3ish mm screwdriver

first attempt leg broke when I screwed it down

second attempt looked perfect, got a beautiful wick in it, set the device to 420/15w
no heat, barely any vapor, thermal protection

raised the temp control as high as 500 @ 20w, and got something that resembled a vape, but still _very_ cool and not much vapor for the Troll rda it was on which usually fogs the room. thermal protection every time if I exceeded 20w

throughout all this, the coil read a rock solid 0.13, so I did something right at least

what do you think made this attempt a fail, hot leg?

 

[qorax]

Sophia Temperature Protected Vertical Build Tutorial√

1. Winding the coils:

2. Wrapping the wick:

3. Inserting the build (into ceramic cup):

NOTE: Saturate the wick a little and roll it tight against the coil before placing it into the cup.

4. Check airflow:

IMPORTANT: Before placing the cup into the base always position/reposition the 510 screw so that the air hole isn't restricted. CAUTION: Don't try adjusting it after the cup is inserted, else it'd rotate the cup and mangle the coil inside.

5. Setup closeup views:

6. Placing the side legs:

NOTE: Attach side legs and tuck them between the coil and the cup's walls using a needle or the like/s. This helps in wicking, especially for a TP build.

7. Vapor check:

8. The Cold Ohm read:

 

[Vapenstein]

hi guys, is it me or the throat hit of a nickel build is too smooth?

currently vaping at .15 450F 22w using 28g ni200 on Kayfun. TIA!

I don't know if I'm getting my builds right, but that's my impression after two apparently successful builds.

So here is my question to the members in this thread who know what they're doing and who like TP/nickel:
Is there any chance that instead of my builds being the problem, that TP vaping is just too tame for me? I've had two builds that read consistent resistance, 0.13 and 0.16. The first I didn't prefire to check for hot spots, the second I did and it looked great. The vape on both was just.....weak. Vapor way too cool, not as much as with Kanthal, just generally lacking heat and oomph.

I normally vape .5 ohm Kanthal builds between 22.5-40w, depending on which tank or rda I am using. So am I doing something wrong and need to keep working at my nickel builds, or is there a chance that TP just doesn't suit how I like to vape? Frustrating morning here with all attempts leading back to Kanthal.

 

[BNEAT]

With Kanthal I'm happiest at around 25watts, with Nickel it seems to take 30watts to tickle my fancy. I'm not sure why, and I really don't care, as long as I get tickled!

 

[Vapenstein]

With Kanthal I'm happiest at around 25watts, with Nickel it seems to take 30watts to tickle my fancy. I'm not sure why, and I really don't care, as long as I get tickled!

but if I crank it up to compensate TP kicks in

 

[kskwerl]

I don't know if I'm getting my builds right, but that's my impression after two apparently successful builds.

So here is my question to the members in this thread who know what they're doing and who like TP/nickel:
Is there any chance that instead of my builds being the problem, that TP vaping is just too tame for me? I've had two builds that read consistent resistance, 0.13 and 0.16. The first I didn't prefire to check for hot spots, the second I did and it looked great. The vape on both was just.....weak. Vapor way too cool, not as much as with Kanthal, just generally lacking heat and oomph.

I normally vape .5 ohm Kanthal builds between 22.5-40w, depending on which tank or rda I am using. So am I doing something wrong and need to keep working at my nickel builds, or is there a chance that TP just doesn't suit how I like to vape? Frustrating morning here with all attempts leading back to Kanthal.

Im right there with ya brother, it's really frustrating and had high hopes for this. I emailed Julie at Hana Modz to see if they have found a better way to implement the Ni200. Waiting for a reply and I will let you guys know

 

[BNEAT]

hmm, not sure what to tell you. I haven't really had a problem switching to Nickel/TP builds, it pretty much all vapes the same to me (other than having to turn up the power a little and deal with the flimsy wire)

 

[HolmanGT]

but if I crank it up to compensate TP kicks in

What do you have the TP set at?

 

[Vapenstein]

What do you have the TP set at?

started at 420 and played with raising both TP and watts without much positive effect on the vape
just a real lackluster, lukewarm vape

 

[HolmanGT]

started at 420 and played with raising both TP and watts without much positive effect on the vape
just a real lackluster, lukewarm vape

Well to duplicate what you are accustom to 420 F is definitely too low. Why don't you try 500 or 550 TP and see if it blows your whistle. I am serious. Holding the TP level low is NEVER going to do what your drippers did for you. Remember with the drippers and a .5 ohm Kanthal coil the puppy was getting really hot and even His Majesty "Brandon" has said more power equals more cloud and the only way you can get more power to the coil is to raise the TP.

Heck take it to 600 if that is what it takes to get the hit you are accustom to. Yes you will not be protecting yourself at the level you probably should but then you definitely didn't with the high powered dripper.

Think of it like Nic level you had to use a nic level that was close to what you were smoking why not use the same principle with the Ni200 and if you are using the Ni200 for personal safety after a time reduce the power/TP a little and work you way down.

It can be pretty amazing how well things work if you take it in baby steps. Just remember the story about the frog in the boiling water. "Put him in when it is something he is used to (cool in this case) and slowly bring the temp up slowly "he never knows until you bring him to the temperature you want" and the Frog... well he is cooked - literally. OK - not the best analogy but you get the point.

PS - I just took mine to 550 TP @ 25 watts and my head is still spinning from the nic buzz and the living room has a pretty modest haze - Oh yea and it was like when I use my "tasting dripper" for new flavors. Warm, tasty and lots of clouds. Also at 24 mg 50/50 one He!! of a nic buzz.

 

[Vapenstein]

ok, I was just trying to piece this temp control thing together from what I've read and seen on YT. It seems like 15-20w/400-450 is pretty common, so I used that ballpark for a starting point. I just couldn't believe that people were enthusiastic about what I was experiencing in those regions, so I wondered if something really wrong was eluding me.

Next time I wrap a coil I'll start at 500 and play with the watts to see what doesn't land me in TP and see how I like it.

 

[HolmanGT]

ok, I was just trying to piece this temp control thing together from what I've read and seen on YT. It seems like 15-20w/400-450 is pretty common, so I used that ballpark for a starting point. I just couldn't believe that people were enthusiastic about what I was experiencing in those regions, so I wondered if something really wrong was eluding me.

Next time I wrap a coil I'll start at 500 and play with the watts to see what doesn't land me in TP and see how I like it.

Varenstein,

Why wait for a rebuild it should do just fine with the coil you have in now. Just crank that puppy up and go for it. That is what I just did with mine and it worked fine tasted good and if you like the room spinning around you'll be in vaping heaven.

 

[Vapenstein]

Varenstein,

Why wait for a rebuild it should do just fine with the coil you have in now. Just crank that puppy up and go for it. That is what I just did with mine and it worked fine tasted good and if you like the room spinning around you'll be in vaping heaven.

can't, nickel build got replaced with a .5 ohm Kanthal coil so that I knew I hadn't lost my mojo

 

[HolmanGT]

can't, nickel build got replaced with a .5 ohm Kanthal coil so that I knew I hadn't lost my mojo

Thanks a lot Vapenstein,

Now I have to wait... not my strong suit.


PS - you don't have to be concerned about Ni200 by products until you hit the 700 degree F mark and your unit won't allow that so your golden.

 

[Every1jockzjay]

What blows my horn is that my build will b identical to rip trippers, perfecttttt coil wicking and rock solid... How come at 430 mine gets 0 vapor and his is snap crackle and popping? Loll of i have to turn it up to 480 degrees for similar results something is wrong....

 

[HolmanGT]

What blows my horn is that my build will b identical to rip trippers, perfecttttt coil wicking and rock solid... How come at 430 mine gets 0 vapor and his is snap crackle and popping? Loll of i have to turn it up to 480 degrees for similar results something is wrong....

I like Rip but I don't trust him... every atty he takes a hit on "Chucks Clouds" even the ones he doesn't like.

 

[kskwerl]

I like Rip but I don't trust him... every atty he takes a hit on "Chucks Clouds" even the ones he doesn't like.

I think what we need is a pbsardo and RIP to have a baby