Do you fiddle with your thingy?

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gerrymi

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Thanx OCD and Peter...

I haven't tried "slide the tank up above the holes and vape it awhile"...but will...

Usually run at 7.5W-8.5W (I like the vapor)...but will try lowering it when gurgling...

Usually try to fill "completely full"...will back down on that...

Also plan on trying the 3.2Ω cartos (post #1893)
 

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Thats it, just try different things and you will locate that sweet spot. I do think lowering the power will be better, not a big difference in the vapor though it will probably be a little cooler.

When we first switched to vaping a couple years ago it did seem like upping the power was the thing, it is still the same for some folks ever chasing that elusive enic dragon. I found I liked the lower power and also that it was kinder to not only devices but also batteries. As I mentioned before I run the 3.2ohm at about what you are running the 2.0ohm which all things being equal should be considerably lower on the power to produce the same kind of vape. No shortage of vapor production here, an exhale for me is more than I ever did get when makin ashes from plant matter and the flavor is always good.
 

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As I mentioned before I run the 3.2ohm at about what you are running the 2.0ohm which all things being equal should be considerably lower on the power to produce the same kind of vape.

I'm cornfused (but then I'm pretty new to all this)...

If I go to the "Ohm's Law Chart"...

2.0Ω at 8.0W uses 4.0V from my battery

3.2Ω at 8.0W uses 5.05V from your battery

So...wouldn't the 2.0Ω...since it drains less Voltage from my battery at 8W..."be considerably lower on the power to produce the same kind of vape"?

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I'm a newbie too, but *if* I understand it correctly, the 'amps' being used will be less, therefore easier on the battery? Or, I could be wrong here...

You are correct. The voltage is how much energy is being supplied, the amperage is how quickly it can be supplied. Also, these batteries only output a maximum of 4.2v (freshly charged), so higher voltages provided by boost circuits draw more amps to 'up step' the output power. The only time the voltage is really a factor in battery life is when the voltage is stepped down lower than the charge (less than 4.2, or the current charge of the battery).
 

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Hey, I'm sure it's been covered at some point in the previous posts, but I just got some Boge cartos to go in my ibtanked. These cartos don't have a lip at the bottom and go right into the tank when I try to fiddle my Thingy! Any ideas?

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If you thingy don work then... Get a bigger thingy ;)

Lol. Just a 19mm standard but the Boges don't have that flared out base to keep it from popping thru. A bigger thingy would probably fix that, but would fiddling with a larger size Thingy that's not as tight a fit for the tank still do its job?

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A bigger thingy will always get the job done... have you not asked around ;) Lol, really though yeah and XL thingy in your situation will still prime the cartomizer without pushing the carto through.

Good to know... Now what if I had the same issue with a 19mm XL? I was thinking about making that my next purchase, and I like the quality of the cartos, but they simply aren't flared to prevent the push thru.

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Not sure if you will have that trouble with the XL or not. One other thing is do you put the tank in the thingy upside down? I always prime this way so the threaded part is in the cap, if it leaks a little it is easier to clean out the cap then the bottom of the thingy. I mention this because the seal of the cap will hit the cap of the tank but since the threads on the cartomizer are a much smaller diameter that seal wont push on it. Might help you with the standard you have now.
 

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Not sure if you will have that trouble with the XL or not. One other thing is do you put the tank in the thingy upside down? I always prime this way so the threaded part is in the cap, if it leaks a little it is easier to clean out the cap then the bottom of the thingy. I mention this because the seal of the cap will hit the cap of the tank but since the threads on the cartomizer are a much smaller diameter that seal wont push on it. Might help you with the standard you have now.

Thanks OCD! Great info as always! I was so upset that I was having issues fiddling my thingy. I will try to fiddle my thingy the way you suggested until I get a larger thingy. Here's my two so far... Look like they're made for the Innokin VV V3.

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You are correct. The voltage is how much energy is being supplied, the amperage is how quickly it can be supplied. Also, these batteries only output a maximum of 4.2v (freshly charged), so higher voltages provided by boost circuits draw more amps to 'up step' the output power.

I'm sure I'm over-thinking this (I tend to do that with all my hobbies)...but if batteries "respect" Ohm's Law...

Watts = Volts²/Ohms

where does Amperage fit in???
 

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See if I can say it correctly or not.

AMPs is what creates *stress* on batteries and gear. That's why some devices have AMP limits in place, to keep you from cooking everything. All batteries have a maximum AMP drain - whether posted or not, if you exceed this limit you risk complete damage to the battery.
 

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Thanks OCD! Great info as always! I was so upset that I was having issues fiddling my thingy. I will try to fiddle my thingy the way you suggested until I get a larger thingy. Here's my two so far... Look like they're made for the Innokin VV V3.

u6yru5e3.jpg


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Fiddling my thingy upside down made all the difference! It worked wonders! The Boge carto didn't get pushed thru at all.

Thanks OCD!

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I'm sure I'm over-thinking this (I tend to do that with all my hobbies)...but if batteries "respect" Ohm's Law...

Watts = Volts²/Ohms

where does Amperage fit in???

Think of it like a water hose. You can pump the same amount of water though a garden hose and a fire hose, but not at the same rate. The amps represent the diameter of the hose allowing more water (power) to be supplied in greater volume.

I hope that makes sense.
 

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No problem Brook, glad I could help. Just be careful fiddlin your thingy upside down, sounds dangerous to me :D

Water pressure on a pipe is how I always related electricity. Amps is pressure and Volts is volume. I dont know that that answers Gerry's question though as it seemed like it was more of where does amps come into the equation. I know you only need any two of the four parts to calculate the other two which has always been intriguing. Check the ohms law calculator online that must be seeing huge traffic since vaping has exploded.
 

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No problem Brook, glad I could help. Just be careful fiddlin your thingy upside down, sounds dangerous to me :D

Water pressure on a pipe is how I always related electricity. Amps is pressure and Volts is volume. I dont know that that answers Gerry's question though as it seemed like it was more of where does amps come into the equation. I know you only need any two of the four parts to calculate the other two which has always been intriguing. Check the ohms law calculator online that must be seeing huge traffic since vaping has exploded.

:lol: I'll make it the newest craze. Just wait...

Side note, here is a good link Battery mAh & C Rating = amp Calculator

I'm still wading thru the relationship, but I figure I won't be building any ultra low res coils, so it shouldn't have too much an effect for me. Besides, don't own a mod that would allow me to -- still rocking a couple itaste VV V3's and loving them.
 
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