Do you want to feel empowered? Do you want to feel better about things?

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Then PLEASE listen to this...
https://soundcloud.com/vp-live/deeming-regulations

Start at 41:30 and grab a beer or two.
:)

It is just over 60 minutes long, and it is well worth every single minute.

Even people who are up to speed will learn a lot.
And it might even make you feel better about the current state of affairs.
 

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Aw come on! I don't got a whole hour and I want to feel empowered and all... hows about a hint of what it is? Pretty please? If I try to do watch it DH will go ballistic. It would ruin TV time!
It is a full and complete outline by Bill Godshall regarding his thoughts on how things will go with the deeming regulations.
And for those who don't know who Bill Godshall is, he is the one person who knows this stuff better than anyone here.
 

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It is a full and complete outline by Bill Godshall regarding his thoughts on how things will go with the deeming regulations.
And for those who don't know who Bill Godshall is, he is the one person who knows this stuff better than anyone here.

I know who he is, and saw him in the hearings. But it wasn't prime time TV time then either. So, how about a really quick recap... for those of us who can't play the video. Or who don't have any beer cuz DH drank it all today!
 

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I know who he is, and saw him in the hearings. But it wasn't prime time TV time then either. So, how about a really quick recap... for those of us who can't play the video. Or who don't have any beer cuz DH drank it all today!
Sorry, there is an hours worth of information there, and the recap would be about 45 minutes long.
And if you have ever heard Bill Godshall, he doesn't waste time or words.
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Maybe later then...
 

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buzzzlove:8399634 said:
Its a trick! if you listen you will become brain washed, You will start wanting to vape all the time you will have overwhelming uncontrollable urges to buy mods, Juice, accessories. Thats what happened to me..........:facepalm:

They got me already! Those urges! I can't fight them!
 

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Thanks for posting the link DC:) Its always interesting listening to Bill's insights as he's been involved for a very long time and understands the background and how things really work. Hoping he's right about the positive impact the involvement of the vaping community at the hearing in Dec and in sending recent comments could have on proposed regulations. Was also good to be reminded that this isn't the first time the FDA has given us a timetable for when we would see their proposed deeming order and regs and both previous times they didnt follow through and pushed the date futher into the future.

I hope a lot of people that haven't been around for the past few years will listen to what he has to say. There's a lot of history and background that's gotten us to this point and knowing it and understanding it helps to understand what can happy in our future. :)
 

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I'm currently listening to this and find myself annoyed by the fact that the opposition seems to need FDA approval... you can watch TV any time of day here and "be sold" on dietary, sleep, sexuality, masculinity, etc. supplements that are sold and if you see/read the small print it reads something to the effect of, "Statements not verified by the FDA... Not Approved by the FDA... Consult your Doctor Before Using". WTH! Where's the FDA on these things? Nowhere because the money for "them" is not there. Infuriating, to say the least, but not surprising that at the end of the day they'll do whatever makes the "powers-that-be" the most money, instead of actually accepting and leaving alone ground-up ingenuity and acceptance of alternatives. Hmmm.... seems to be a trend.
 
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