Does vaping really helps to quit smoking?

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kyaku

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30+ year smoker. Had tried every 'approved' quit method and failed. Gave up on quitting and was able to cut down to 1 PAD but couldn't stay below that.
To try to cut down more, I bought an ecig kit and went to a 1/2 PAD the first day with no effort.
Battled with learning how to vape for 6 weeks. Bought a different, larger PV kit (the Go-Go).
Within another 6 weeks I was able to quit cigs for a couple of months.
Every month or so I'll still break down smoke one but now I have hope and I think I'm on the right road to breaking a 30 year 'habit'.
As far as saving money :laugh: ... I'm still about $200 in the hole.
 

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I've tried everything, from hypnosis- meds- gums- patches, you name it, I tried it... and always failed. I smoked a pack and a half a day. Been smoking for over 25 years. It was hell every time I tried to quit. The agony and anxiety always ended up getting to me. Ever since I started vaping, the desire to have an analog has diminished tremendously. I'm still in transition as I'm new to vaping- but vaping has changed my life. I don't like the taste of analogs anymore, and although I am still struggling with my wake-up analog, I know I'll eventually get over that. I'm down to 3 per day now. I love to vape, especially the yummy flavours that are available and it feels great to have that lingering taste in my mouth. I prefer my fruity concoctions :D

So, yes-- I would say that vaping has helped me on the path to quitting without stress at all. I don't feel deprived or stressed. It's become a part of my life and as I have been lowering my nic levels, I feel so much better and positive that I've made the progress I've made. I had always thought it impossible for me to quit analogs, let alone reduce my intake. I've failed so miserably so many times and spent literally thousands of dollars on smoking cessation programs and products... vaping has been a great investment in my life and my future. My husband is so proud of me.
 

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...for 40 yrs, I WAS a 3ppd smoker of funkarettes and really wanted to quit and just couldn't...got a Riva...first day, I smoked 4 of the funkies, the same on the second day, and then 2 per on the next 3 days...haven't smoked a funkarette since...my wife was a ppd smoker for 20yrs, she hasn't had one since she took her first vape...all of that in the 3wks we have been vaping...so, I think these little e-gadgets are wonderful, life extending devices...save any money...nope, not yet but will as we go on...........
madjack:2cool:
 

Denvish

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Hi All, i am just curious, does vaping really helps to quit smoking.
i mean, will you immediately give up cigarettes after you start vaping?

For me... the answer is a big YES. Being a rolling tobacco, rather than a tailor-made, smoker, I thought I'd miss the rolling ritual. But I don't. All I need is the throat hit, and the nicotine. For me (with a bit of wick tweaking), vaping gives me both of those
 

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1 to 2 PAD smoker for 50 years and Started vaping in April 2011 and had my last analogue cigarette on June 17th. Have not had a single one since. Three packs of cigarettes remain on the turntable on our kitchen table without eliciting desire on my part. They are still there mainly because i refuse to throw good money away, and they were such cheap cigarettes that no one will take them. I hope they are still there next year, I enjoy watching them.
 

flymolo

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Statistics show that the best way to quit is cold turkey. I also found statistics that show that vaping is the least likely way to quit of all smoking aids. Honestly, I think those stats are a bunch of hooey and I can't help but wonder if the stats makers count vaping as smoking, thereby saying that unless you quit both you haven't quit.

After several attempts to quit smoking, I've now been vaping for a couple weeks and will never go back to analogs. Whether or not I ever try to quit vaping I haven't decided, but I love it so much more than smoking that I'd be confident recommending it to anyone who wanted to quit.
 

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I smoke for almost 40 years. Tried everything to stop including a psychologist/heart specialist. Gum, patches, sprays, hypnosis, acupuncture, lozenges. Basically, I just gave up trying to quit.

By sheer accident (???), I ran into a maintenance guy at a hotel that was vaping. I had no idea what it was before meeting this guy. He put the idea in my head. I spend $100+ foolishly on an internet ecig look-alike thing that did not work so I threw is out. Months later, I decided to do some research and discovered this site. I lived on this site for 48 hours almost non-stop over the course of one weekend. I then decided my equipment was at fault so I bought a Riva tank system. Not the best for me, I needed high voltage and 24mg's of nicotine but the Riva was good enough to get me off smokes for an entire month, what had been at the time my all time record in 37+ years.

I guess my answer is yes but with caveats. Research this forum, think about what you smoke, how much, how often and get a machine that's well made and nicotine that's adequate for your addiction.

All the best
Torque
 

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Statistics show that the best way to quit is cold turkey. I also found statistics that show that vaping is the least likely way to quit of all smoking aids. Honestly, I think those stats are a bunch of hooey and I can't help but wonder if the stats makers count vaping as smoking, thereby saying that unless you quit both you haven't quit.

After several attempts to quit smoking, I've now been vaping for a couple weeks and will never go back to analogs. Whether or not I ever try to quit vaping I haven't decided, but I love it so much more than smoking that I'd be confident recommending it to anyone who wanted to quit.

Statistics can be bent to suit, just ask any accountant or Politician. Vaping was the only thing that did it for me. I guess reality is we never quit nicotine, just the smoke and that's good enough for me. Congrats on your quit.
 

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Please give me a link to the stats that show e-cigs are not good for getting off cigs.

So far the best 'official' results are (as you say):
1) ~80% of ex-smokers, when interviewed, say they quit cold turkey.
2) Allen Carr's Easyway org has a 53% success rate quoted, which stood up to a legal challenge, but the timescale is not known (the 4-week, 6-month, 12-month and 20-month figures are radically different for all/any method)
3) Anecdotal evidence for e-cigs is about 75% success, when mentored, at 6 months. To repeat: this is not confirmed.
4) One survey of single-brand regular e-cigs at 12 months gave a 31% success rate. As these were unmentored users of a Tier 1 (reduced efficiency) product, it might be regarded as a worst possible case.
5) And I guess we should put in here that there is no record of any reputable research that gives a better result for any NRT at 20 months than 15%, and this is considered highly anomalous. (This means any pharma product.) The vast majority of research gives results for pharma-assisted quitting as between 2% and 7% as a best possible case. Some research showed even lower than 2% success rate for NRTs (in this case, skin patches, I think).

Some of us reckon a mentored, fully-supported program where the participants are people who want to quit cigs, and who have full access to any possible e-cig, any possible liquid, and Snus, would have a final success rate of 80%.

Although there is no volume of research that can show beyond doubt that e-cigs work well, they certainly work orders of magnitude better than any pharma-assisted method and there is no medical professional anywhere who will state otherwise.

Note: there may be a difference between 'quitting smoking' and 'quitting cigs'. We are only interested in quitting cigs here as that removes better than 99% of the health issues according to expert medical opinion, and many of us need nicotine for all sorts of reasons. For that reason, the use of an e-cig may better be described as 'switching', as nobody can argue about the semantics then. It may be easier to quit totally after a period of time on an e-cig, but we are - in the main - not concerned with that.
 
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pad smoker for about 10 years, started young. Bought the riva kit and some juice and havent looked back. not one cig in last month( since starting). In the first month i saved about 50 bucks. next month i will be purchasing a new pv and diy liquid so i will be breaking even but will be set for a few months. If your not looking for a new hobby and spend the time to learn from this forum i think you can at the very least break even.

edit: thanks for the good post Rolygate
 
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I think that the key thing to remember, is that everyone is different. I started vaping in February, and haven't touched a cigarette since. It was an instant success for me. Sadly that's not translated into a financial saving, simply because I like my big battery mods, VV devices and repairable atomisers too much.... oops! (don't tell the wife)

On the other hand, my wife started vaping not long after I did... think it was more because I didn't discuss quitting with her, I just did it... vaping for her means something different... for her it's being able to smoke inside when it's raining outside, or being able to smoke in bed. If she's stressed she reaches for a cigarette, she doesn't reach for her PV... what it has done, is it's taken her from a 20 cigarette a day habit to a 5 cigarette a day habit. Of course I would prefer it if she didn't smoke at all, but in the meantime 5 has got to be better than 20, though 0 would be best of all!

Sooner or later, it seems like anyone who smoked much before and switches should come out ahead. Even if you buy an ego kit and various "stuff" the first month to get started, and add a Buzz Pro the next month, and a Reo the month after that, then a Provari, a Darwin... Well, sooner or later, maybe it takes six or 8 months, but you should have pretty much everything. There are only so many high end mods. If you have a buzz pro, a Reo, a Provari, a Darwin, maybe there are one or two more - but at that point you've got everything, and anything you buy is only going to do the same thing as the stuff you already have. And then you're down to a few small things each month. A little juice, a few cartomizers/atomizers/tanks. To me, it seems like it's going to eventually come around to where you aren't buying the big money items very often, and at that point, you're going to start coming out ahead financially.

Naturally, the more you smoked before you switched, the easier it is to come out ahead. The more expensive cigs were in your area, the easier it is to come out ahead. (I've heard some places they are almost $10 a pack? Closer to $4 a pack for me, smoking no name cigs.) And the more important the financial side is to you, the easier it is, because if it's important, then you probably won't buy 5 or 6 high end mods.

If you count health related costs - future hospital bills you avoid because you stopped smoking - then it's no contest. Not to mention, you'll just plain feel better.

I'm more like your wife - quitting isn't easy for me. I'm still smoking some. Not a lot, but some. Even so, I'm ahead financially, and I suspect I'll always be a little ahead, even though I'm planning on buying a couple of mods now and then. I was spending around $350 a month on cigs. Now I'm spending maybe $50 or $60 a month on cigs. Even if I never quit, and I buy a couple of good mods over the next couple of months, I'm still saving money.

I haven't pushed to quit the cigs. I haven't ever tried to just not smoke at all. (Well, not since I got my first PV.) I never really thought this would work for me. But from the day I got my ego, I sort of naturally cut down from 3 pad to 1 or 1.5 packs, without working at it. I was vaping when I wanted, smoking when I wanted. I knew I was smoking a lot less. And then I noticed that often I would light a cig out of habit, without thinking about it, and that as soon as I did, I would think "I didn't need this. I should have grabbed the ego."

At that point, I started to believe. So I started putting my cigs someplace I couldn't reach them without thinking about it. Not next to the computer - not in my pocket. Usually on a shelf where they aren't within reach. That way, I have to get up and go over there.

I still get cravings. Usually, right after eating. It'll take me several cigs after a meal before I get rid of the cravings. The best day I've had, I smoked 4 or 5 cigs.

At one point, I thought I was going to quit completely, just try to not smoke and force it. But I got sick, and I got to reading about various withdrawal symptoms that some people get, and I decided not to push it too much. I'm 95% sure that when I got sick, it was not related to smoking or vaping or quitting in any way, but I did get nervous.

So I decided that I'd smoked 3 packs a day (or more) for many years, that I'd smoked for 30+ years, and that I'd be better off going a little slower. So since the 10 or 12 a day I'm smoking now is fairly easy, I've done that, to let my body adjust a little slower.

My plan right now is to get a VV mod (I'm hoping that a higher voltage vape will help with the cravings), and set a limit of 6 cigs a day, for 2 weeks. Fewer if I can manage. That will be my final step before I actually quit. And after that 2 weeks is up, to quit smoking completely.

That's my plan, at least.

Even if things stay where they are, and I keep smoking a 1/2 pack a day, I'm still thrilled. I consider it a huge, huge success. I'd tried to quit many times before, and it got me nowhere. I was very addicted. I guess I still am. But I'm smoking a whole lot less than before. And for the first time, I actually believe that I will quit.
 

flimflam

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Hi,

Vaping definitely helped me quit 'real' cigs. Started five and a half weeks ago with a supermini lookalike, and it lasted me 3-4 weeks till I found this place (and coupla others). Now I've got a 510 Riva + cartos and it's great :D

I've only lapsed once, and that was just coz I ran out of juice. In fact planning ahead for juice etc supplies was what tripped me up more than craving 'real' cigs, I can't just nip to the local shop if I run out like I could with analogs.

BTW, I just have to say that this place is amazing, the amount of info (esp the beginner tutorials) was a godsend. I've spent hours on end browsing this place. Just wish I'd found out about vaping years ago.

All the best,
John :vapor:
 
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