Ecigexpress flavoring thread

[LookMa`NoSmoK]

Are you saying 555 is just like real cig?

I'm saying, they are very very similar. real cig just seems a tad bit sweeter. not real analog sweetness, imo. I find it hard to understand how people say, its like a real analog. don't get me wrong, its a great vape.

With these tobaccos, time does change them from a little, to quite a bit, from my short experience with them. What i'm saying, is that if these were not made by the same people as vz's I would be very surprised.

Going back and forth trying to get differences aside from slight sweetness. There is a tiny something... ok, before I put my foot in my mouth, I will wait week.

 

[Sdh]

Last time Sdh gave her approval on something (koolada) it was breathtaking, literally. =)

LOL! Bitter Wizard does cut the sweetness. Koolada is different. If I ever get bored I will make up some ice liquid.

 

[LookMa`NoSmoK]

LOL! Bitter Wizard does cut the sweetness. Koolada is different. If I ever get bored I will make up some ice liquid.

I'm considering with my next nic batch, making ~1/3 of it Koolada'ed. lol

 

[LookMa`NoSmoK]

By the way, it been a week. hows the grape?

 

[Sdh]

I'm saying, they are very very similar. real cig just seems a tad bit sweeter. not real analog sweetness, imo. I find it hard to understand how people say, its like a real analog. don't get me wrong, its a great vape.

With these tobaccos, time does change them from a little, to quite a bit, from my short experience with them. What i'm saying, is that if these were not made by the same people as vz's I would be very surprised.

Going back and forth trying to get differences aside from slight sweetness. There is a tiny something... ok, before I put my foot in my mouth, I will wait week.

I would assume they are the same. However, two variations I think are offered for the same flavoring. I think your right on the comparison. Nothing is like a real cig IMHO except a real cig. I think I know what your saying about the little something. It is hard to describe but I would say it is a undertone that quite a few share.

 

[salemgold]

LM, maybe they both have the same tobacco additive that linnx was talking about?

This is just part of my own weird point of view on things but I don't like to use additives like Bitter Wizard or Koolada to my juice. Most likely is fine to do but I just always feel better using the least amount of stuff in my juice as possible.

I remember a few years back there was an additive that was supposed to help create more TH made available. It was soon discovered that it may not have been safe for inhalation and is no longer available. That is where my paranoia with additives started but I am sure that I am the minority here.

 

[LookMa`NoSmoK]

Was just looking at vz. I thought their new pricing would be competitive, but its actually adding to the base price. 22 bucks for 30ml! yikes! let alone pre 30ml...

 

[IVapus]

I've thought all along that it was powerful strange that the fruits were the same but the tobaccos were totally different between the two. More likely that the names are mangled and obfuscated along the way. That's pretty easy to do with the names of tobacco flavors since there's often very little rhyme or reason to the names in the first place. On the other hand it's kind of hard to rename a cherry flavor to peach, or an orange flavor to blackberry.

Btw, I stumbled into a coop thread earlier today with several folks that ordered a bunch of super concentrated flavors direct from a China distributor. There was no mention of a distributor or supplier that I noticed, but I'm guessing they're also coming from the same place and that there are folks around here with connections that have already figured out the code, so to speak.

 

[LookMa`NoSmoK]

This is just part of my own weird point of view on things but I don't like to use additives like Bitter Wizard or Koolada to my juice. Most likely is fine to do but I just always feel better using the least amount of stuff in my juice as possible.

I remember a few years back there was an additive that was supposed to help create more TH made available. It was soon discovered that it may not have been safe for inhalation and is no longer available. That is where my paranoia with additives started but I am sure that I am the minority here.

I'm with ya on that. But, I have no idea about any of this stuff in regards to health. TPA, is american (i think), so my thought is that they would consider health in the making of koolada

 

[Sdh]

By the way, it been a week. hows the grape?

I just mixed it yesterday. IDK if I should try it or not. I was looking for a atty to try it.

 

[LookMa`NoSmoK]

I've thought all along that it was powerful strange that the fruits were the same but the tobaccos were totally different between the two. More likely that the names are mangled and obfuscated along the way. That's pretty easy to do with the names of tobacco flavors since there's often very little rhyme or reason to the names in the first place. On the other hand it's kind of hard to rename a cherry flavor to peach, or an orange flavor to blackberry.

thats kinda what I'm thinking.

 

[LookMa`NoSmoK]

I just mixed it yesterday. IDK if I should try it or not. I was looking for a atty to try it.

LOL, just teasing =) got to run. be on tonight

 

[Sdh]

I was just looking at a diy page on Facebook. Someone stated they are using 30% flavoring for their e-liquid. I think using that much is insane. We don't know the safety of flavorings so I believe less is best as well. I think with the additives such as the one I mentioned before it is used at 1%.

 

[Sdh]

LOL, just teasing =) got to run. be on tonight

I thought so! TTYL

 

[salemgold]

I've thought all along that it was powerful strange that the fruits were the same but the tobaccos were totally different between the two. More likely that the names are mangled and obfuscated along the way. That's pretty easy to do with the names of tobacco flavors since there's often very little rhyme or reason to the names in the first place. On the other hand it's kind of hard to rename a cherry flavor to peach, or an orange flavor to blackberry.

Btw, I stumbled into a coop thread earlier today with several folks that ordered a bunch of super concentrated flavors direct from a China distributor. There was no mention of a distributor or supplier that I noticed, but I'm guessing they're also coming from the same place and that there are folks around here with connections that have already figured out the code, so to speak.

I saw that thread too, Ivapus. I Pmd Kenetix to ask where he was buying with no reply lol.

When the VZ flavors first came out, I researched and am fairly sure that I found where they are buying from. The thing is that the smallest amout available is 1 liter that I have found. You would just about have to be a supplier or in a coop to manage those quantities.

 

[salemgold]

I'm with ya on that. But, I have no idea about any of this stuff in regards to health. TPA, is american (i think), so my thought is that they would consider health in the making of koolada

The thing that you have to keep in mind is that these flavorings and their additives have been created for food application. There have not been any studies on inhalation of food flavorings or additives to date.

I feel sure that inhaling food flavorings is much better health wise than inhaling cigs. I just feel better keeping everything as low as possible for now in case 10 years from now we find out that inhalation of food flavorings cause us to grow an extra limb or something lol

 

[sachavaca]

30 % omg, Im turning green at 3%. trying1 and 2% now

 

[sachavaca]

extra limb, got one. ooops yah, I see what you mean

 

[salemgold]

30 % omg, Im turning green at 3%. trying1 and 2% now

LOL, most likely they are using the TPA or Capellas and not these concentrated. You might be surprised to see how many people use 20-30% and sometimes more with those. Seems crazy to me too

 

[sachavaca]

thaught I saw the name dropped in a thread, name started with s if im not mistaken