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The one list in the beginning thread is no longer good but did contact him with the new one. 
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LOL, Ty,
So here are a Few Recessed tank Units, They are made to run an 18650 and a Kick at the same time..
A magnetic spacer is included for running it straight as an 18650..
These have 24mm. tank/atty holes, should fit all your stuff
These are 165 shipped your choice of black or Stainless Power button--There's a 3 mill storage bottle inside for refills on the go...
cool!
The Feeders...as before, ( price Shipped) 155 standard, 165 Kick enabled and 170 Kicked with Stainless Power Button
Some more shots... I invoice through PayPal-- email me fonosmoak@gmail.com
Just curious....has fono or anyone else modded a 5/6ml bottle to these. Is there even room (no kick)? I waiting to own my first so I don't really know.
The 6ml REO bottle & cap doesn't have any room between the cap and bottom of the 510. The feed system on this B-F is different from the REO, more of a tilt & squonk since the feed tube doesn't go too deep into the bottle. Plus you have a glue bump where the feed tube was secured.
I received mine last Friday, but was out of town until last night, I'm still getting familiar with the button squeeze, it's a bit stiff and difficult to know if I've fed enough juice to the wick. I'm running some NET.COM 9mg Black Cherry Tobacco on a 1 ohm coil, really good flavor, TH, and warm vapor on an RM2.
I could tell that you wouldn't just be able to swap bottles just from the pics I have seen but just wondered if someone figured a modification to do so. There is always folks messing with stuff instead of leaving well enough alone. 
OK, I did find some Japanese Bento Box Soy Sauce containers, 6ml & ~1.5" high, that's ~1/4" smaller than the REO 6ml, and I think the existing cap may work. I'll let you know if they work when they arrive, ~2nd week of November.
well....since you asked
"GETTING STARTED
1. You need to break in the new bottle. Please note that it may take a couple days to get to optimal squishiness: try massaging the bottle for a few minutes and running it under some hot water for a minute. There is also a natural soft spot in the bottle. If you align this soft spot with the feed button, you will have an easier time pushing in the button.
2. You need to prime the atty and fill the feed line:
I urge you to explore the feed system without an atty or cartomizer on your Phidias--just hold it up side down and press the feed button, you can then watch the drops drip into the atty, maybe refresh a carto or just play around by dripping back into a open top juice bottle. Count one Mississippi, two Mississippi etc., until you can gauge how long your particular juice takes to drop three drops into the atty. This serves to prime the atty and fill the feed line as well.
Attach the atty, and take a few vapes. You should be good for 3 to 5 vapes. Notice that you can hear the juice in the feed line. When you no longer hear it running, it’s time to feed the atty again.
Feeding the Phidias: You have three methods:
The Zen of gravity feeding an atty (not to be confused with Motorcycle Mechanics)
You have a feed system that works with Gravity rather than against it;
an all surgical stainless steel feed tube feeding the atty--operated by that over sized hand turned totally flush hardwood button--in your case a genuine Purple Heart button.
Option One is the “Phiddy Swing”
you simply invert your Phidias and press in on the button to feed it.
Here's some other tips I can offer…
After nearly a month of use I've discovered a few extra things to notice when priming a brand new atty or just contemplating the effects of gravity....
Things to notice #1
The first second of a feed button press delivers no juice.
Every feed system must evacuate the air trap in its tube the before any juice can be transported.
This air is pulled back into the bottle through the tube each time the button pressure is relaxed.
The inverted Feedimus system has much less of this air to evacuate than other upright "Against Gravity" sorts with longer, much larger diameter, to the bottom of the bottle tubes...
Things to notice #2
It's not about pressure it's about time.
Please notice, it does not take much button pressure to induce a drop, in fact an increase in button pressure seems to have no effect whatsoever on the rate of flow!!
Check that out for yourself; It's liberating.
Thick juices require no more button pressure than thin juices, just more time.
How much time? in my experience about four full Mississippi
type seconds: one Mississippi, two Mississippi etc.
The thinnest juices maybe 1/3 less than that?
IF you are using 100% thick vg juice, you can try adding a couple of drops of distilled water to your bottle for better viscosity.
Things to notice #3
You cannot get more that 4 maybe 5 drops from the most absent minded of long presses.
This is pretty nice because it makes it very hard to flood an atty...
I think the real value in observing and verifying these 3 things is the final realization that if you just swing your atty toward the ground and press for a while you pretty much cannot go wrong.
It's not like I designed my Phi case to be a juice feeder, it's that it just seems to be a natural for it!
If you can just know these "things" are true, by testing them for yourself, you are on your way to absolutely carefree feeding.
OPTION 2:
Advanced users will soon discover the Fire feed--- thumb presses gently on the feed button with fore finger on the power --pinky raised for style points (of course) with just a natural sipping type inclination.
Actually there's nothing stopping you from doing the ol' press and suck of the standard against gravity bottom feeders as well…just remember Long neck beer bottle rules apply. You have to tip your Phidias just past horizontal to submerge the feed cap in the bottle. If you do more than this angle, your gonna get juice in your mouth, just as you will if you attempt to feed before the line is empty.(note by Tybin)
Option3:
use a cartomizer!
take your full phidias bottle and slide the needle down the inside of the carto. (Brilliant BB!)
Squeeze until the carto is full. Top off the carto every hour or so by simply inverting your phid and pressing the feed button for ten seconds. turn back upright and vape away
Option 4: Use a tank
d. Notes on Care:
Your Phidias is finished from the inside out so to speak, so unlike surface treatments you'll never see a hunk of it just chip, or flake off---leaving a patch of untreated, raw wood surrounded by the raised, on the surface only, surface coating...
So the mineral oil, included with your purchase is there just to refresh the sheen.(no it’s not a free sample bottle of juice—don’t vape it!) You might wish to wipe it down with a damp cloth, to remove any dirt that might have collected with use.
Pre-clean (if desired): Just a damp cloth, don't go nuts, and even a soft tooth brush--but again don't go nuts...
Then just a drop or two or three of the Mineral Oil when the finish looks dry; rub it in with your hands...the wood will take what it needs, (let it sit awhile--overnight even) and then you simply wipe/buff off what's left, if any, with a soft cloth and admire the newly refreshed finish .
A freshly laundered old tee shirt is the perfect a soft cotton cloth.
e. Adaptor Note:
[Fono would recommend that you] Don't use cheap adapters on 510 connectors. If you use an adapter, please don't try and tighten them a little more once they bottom out...That's how they crush that insulator…My personal 801 adapter has fried three springs, I was careful too, now I'm just sad...I'm not sure I'll ever try to use it again...too bad to, I like that 801. Skip the adapters, for a while anyway..."
For those using a regular gold old fashioned atty---- NOTE. The below was from before Fono sealed the line under the connector, so adjust as you will.
"GETTING STARTED
1. You need to break in the new bottle. Please note that it may take a couple days to get to optimal squishiness: try massaging the bottle for a few minutes and running it under some hot water for a minute. There is also a natural soft spot in the bottle. If you align this soft spot with the feed button, you will have an easier time pushing in the button.
2. You need to prime the atty and fill the feed line:
I urge you to explore the feed system without an atty or cartomizer on your Phidias--just hold it up side down and press the feed button, you can then watch the drops drip into the atty, maybe refresh a carto or just play around by dripping back into a open top juice bottle. Count one Mississippi, two Mississippi etc., until you can gauge how long your particular juice takes to drop three drops into the atty. This serves to prime the atty and fill the feed line as well.
Attach the atty, and take a few vapes. You should be good for 3 to 5 vapes. Notice that you can hear the juice in the feed line. When you no longer hear it running, it’s time to feed the atty again.
Feeding the Phidias: You have three methods:
The Zen of gravity feeding an atty (not to be confused with Motorcycle Mechanics)
You have a feed system that works with Gravity rather than against it;
an all surgical stainless steel feed tube feeding the atty--operated by that over sized hand turned totally flush hardwood button--in your case a genuine Purple Heart button.
Option One is the “Phiddy Swing”
you simply invert your Phidias and press in on the button to feed it.
Here's some other tips I can offer…
After nearly a month of use I've discovered a few extra things to notice when priming a brand new atty or just contemplating the effects of gravity....
Things to notice #1
The first second of a feed button press delivers no juice.
Every feed system must evacuate the air trap in its tube the before any juice can be transported.
This air is pulled back into the bottle through the tube each time the button pressure is relaxed.
The inverted Feedimus system has much less of this air to evacuate than other upright "Against Gravity" sorts with longer, much larger diameter, to the bottom of the bottle tubes...
Things to notice #2
It's not about pressure it's about time.
Please notice, it does not take much button pressure to induce a drop, in fact an increase in button pressure seems to have no effect whatsoever on the rate of flow!!
Check that out for yourself; It's liberating.
Thick juices require no more button pressure than thin juices, just more time.
How much time? in my experience about four full Mississippi
type seconds: one Mississippi, two Mississippi etc.
The thinnest juices maybe 1/3 less than that?
IF you are using 100% thick vg juice, you can try adding a couple of drops of distilled water to your bottle for better viscosity.
Things to notice #3
You cannot get more that 4 maybe 5 drops from the most absent minded of long presses.
This is pretty nice because it makes it very hard to flood an atty...
I think the real value in observing and verifying these 3 things is the final realization that if you just swing your atty toward the ground and press for a while you pretty much cannot go wrong.
It's not like I designed my Phi case to be a juice feeder, it's that it just seems to be a natural for it!
If you can just know these "things" are true, by testing them for yourself, you are on your way to absolutely carefree feeding.
OPTION 2:
Advanced users will soon discover the Fire feed--- thumb presses gently on the feed button with fore finger on the power --pinky raised for style points (of course) with just a natural sipping type inclination.
Actually there's nothing stopping you from doing the ol' press and suck of the standard against gravity bottom feeders as well…just remember Long neck beer bottle rules apply. You have to tip your Phidias just past horizontal to submerge the feed cap in the bottle. If you do more than this angle, your gonna get juice in your mouth, just as you will if you attempt to feed before the line is empty.(note by Tybin)
Option3:
use a cartomizer!
take your full phidias bottle and slide the needle down the inside of the carto. (Brilliant BB!)
Squeeze until the carto is full. Top off the carto every hour or so by simply inverting your phid and pressing the feed button for ten seconds. turn back upright and vape away
Option 4: Use a tank
d. Notes on Care:
Your Phidias is finished from the inside out so to speak, so unlike surface treatments you'll never see a hunk of it just chip, or flake off---leaving a patch of untreated, raw wood surrounded by the raised, on the surface only, surface coating...
So the mineral oil, included with your purchase is there just to refresh the sheen.(no it’s not a free sample bottle of juice—don’t vape it!) You might wish to wipe it down with a damp cloth, to remove any dirt that might have collected with use.
Pre-clean (if desired): Just a damp cloth, don't go nuts, and even a soft tooth brush--but again don't go nuts...
Then just a drop or two or three of the Mineral Oil when the finish looks dry; rub it in with your hands...the wood will take what it needs, (let it sit awhile--overnight even) and then you simply wipe/buff off what's left, if any, with a soft cloth and admire the newly refreshed finish .
A freshly laundered old tee shirt is the perfect a soft cotton cloth.
e. Adaptor Note:
[Fono would recommend that you] Don't use cheap adapters on 510 connectors. If you use an adapter, please don't try and tighten them a little more once they bottom out...That's how they crush that insulator…My personal 801 adapter has fried three springs, I was careful too, now I'm just sad...I'm not sure I'll ever try to use it again...too bad to, I like that 801. Skip the adapters, for a while anyway..."
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well....since you asked
For those using a regular gold old fashioned atty---- NOTE. The below was from before Fono sealed the line under the connector, so adjust as you will.
"GETTING STARTED
1. You need to break in the new bottle. Please note that it may take a couple days to get to optimal squishiness: try massaging the bottle for a few minutes and running it under some hot water for a minute. There is also a natural soft spot in the bottle. If you align this soft spot with the feed button, you will have an easier time pushing in the button.
2. You need to prime the atty and fill the feed line:
I urge you to explore the feed system without an atty or cartomizer on your Phidias--just hold it up side down and press the feed button, you can then watch the drops drip into the atty, maybe refresh a carto or just play around by dripping back into a open top juice bottle. Count one Mississippi, two Mississippi etc., until you can gauge how long your particular juice takes to drop three drops into the atty. This serves to prime the atty and fill the feed line as well.
Attach the atty, and take a few vapes. You should be good for 3 to 5 vapes. Notice that you can hear the juice in the feed line. When you no longer hear it running, its time to feed the atty again.
Feeding the Phidias: You have three methods:
The Zen of gravity feeding an atty (not to be confused with Motorcycle Mechanics)
You have a feed system that works with Gravity rather than against it;
an all surgical stainless steel feed tube feeding the atty--operated by that over sized hand turned totally flush hardwood button--in your case a genuine Purple Heart button.
Option One is the Phiddy Swing
you simply invert your Phidias and press in on the button to feed it.
Here's some other tips I can offer
After nearly a month of use I've discovered a few extra things to notice when priming a brand new atty or just contemplating the effects of gravity....
Things to notice #1
The first second of a feed button press delivers no juice.
Every feed system must evacuate the air trap in its tube the before any juice can be transported.
This air is pulled back into the bottle through the tube each time the button pressure is relaxed.
The inverted Feedimus system has much less of this air to evacuate than other upright "Against Gravity" sorts with longer, much larger diameter, to the bottom of the bottle tubes...
Things to notice #2
It's not about pressure it's about time.
Please notice, it does not take much button pressure to induce a drop, in fact an increase in button pressure seems to have no effect whatsoever on the rate of flow!!
Check that out for yourself; It's liberating.
Thick juices require no more button pressure than thin juices, just more time.
How much time? in my experience about four full Mississippi
type seconds: one Mississippi, two Mississippi etc.
The thinnest juices maybe 1/3 less than that?
IF you are using 100% thick vg juice, you can try adding a couple of drops of distilled water to your bottle for better viscosity.
Things to notice #3
You cannot get more that 4 maybe 5 drops from the most absent minded of long presses.
This is pretty nice because it makes it very hard to flood an atty...
I think the real value in observing and verifying these 3 things is the final realization that if you just swing your atty toward the ground and press for a while you pretty much cannot go wrong.
It's not like I designed my Phi case to be a juice feeder, it's that it just seems to be a natural for it!
If you can just know these "things" are true, by testing them for yourself, you are on your way to absolutely carefree feeding.
OPTION 2:
Advanced users will soon discover the Fire feed--- thumb presses gently on the feed button with fore finger on the power --pinky raised for style points (of course) with just a natural sipping type inclination.
Actually there's nothing stopping you from doing the ol' press and suck of the standard against gravity bottom feeders as well just remember Long neck beer bottle rules apply. You have to tip your Phidias just past horizontal to submerge the feed cap in the bottle. If you do more than this angle, your gonna get juice in your mouth, just as you will if you attempt to feed before the line is empty.(note by Tybin)
Option3:
use a cartomizer!
take your full phidias bottle and slide the needle down the inside of the carto. (Brilliant BB!)
Squeeze until the carto is full. Top off the carto every hour or so by simply inverting your phid and pressing the feed button for ten seconds. turn back upright and vape away
Option 4: Use a tank
d. Notes on Care:
Your Phidias is finished from the inside out so to speak, so unlike surface treatments you'll never see a hunk of it just chip, or flake off---leaving a patch of untreated, raw wood surrounded by the raised, on the surface only, surface coating...
So the mineral oil, included with your purchase is there just to refresh the sheen.(no its not a free sample bottle of juicedont vape it!) You might wish to wipe it down with a damp cloth, to remove any dirt that might have collected with use.
Pre-clean (if desired): Just a damp cloth, don't go nuts, and even a soft tooth brush--but again don't go nuts...
Then just a drop or two or three of the Mineral Oil when the finish looks dry; rub it in with your hands...the wood will take what it needs, (let it sit awhile--overnight even) and then you simply wipe/buff off what's left, if any, with a soft cloth and admire the newly refreshed finish .
A freshly laundered old tee shirt is the perfect a soft cotton cloth.
e. Adaptor Note:
[Fono would recommend that you] Don't use cheap adapters on 510 connectors. If you use an adapter, please don't try and tighten them a little more once they bottom out...That's how they crush that insulator My personal 801 adapter has fried three springs, I was careful too, now I'm just sad...I'm not sure I'll ever try to use it again...too bad to, I like that 801. Skip the adapters, for a while anyway..."
Information overload
I just snagged a birds eye/purple heart feeder! I'm excited[emoji16] guess I will be stalking the mailman soon
I'm sure this has been addressed before somewhere In the 3600+ pages of the previous posts but what would be the feeding technique if using an rda such as a rm2 or cyclone? If I invert to feed juice will run out the drip tip.
Hi,
what is this thing you speak of? does it have a wick of some sort? if so then it would be the same as a stock atty..
Is there a picture or diagram? Playing catch up here, but really do apriecate the query...
Thanks Roscoe
fono
Sorry for the crazy questions. I am a reo user and am not entirely wrapping my mind around the inverted feed system. The rm2 Is a standard bottom fed rebuildable dripping atty. Yes it has wick. I'm thinking the just past horizontal squonk might work. I will know better I guess when I try it out. Was just wondering if anybody had any experience with this. I have never had the pleasure of using 510 attys or cartos.
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