Ejuice calculator (added quantity calculations)

[Scubabatdan]

Sorry, attempt at alliteration, Ferp was all I could come up with.

The worksheet in v7 that has the flavorings along with their particular warnings needs to be updated. Dang.

The Mango extract from Faeries Finest does indeed use natural ingredients. It's full of mango particulate! It might not actually be a problem but I'm not going to try it to see if it clogs an atty or not.

It does make killer cupcakes though

It has been annotated and updated, Thanks for the input!
Wheres MY cupcakes......???
Dan

 

[olderthandirt]

It has been annotated and updated, Thanks for the input!
Wheres MY cupcakes......???
Dan

I's a baaaad boy. Isa et um' aaaaaalllllllll up

 

[bikergirl1908]

Dan,

I had one of your earlier versions of the spreadsheet from Sept and just downloaded version 7(2). It is absolutely amazing! There is so much useful information available at my fingertips, from recipes to flavorings to cost. Thanks to you and all of the contributors for making my DIY that much easier to do.

 

[emonty]

very nice, appreciated, !!!!!!!

 

[qballizhere]

Great work you all have put into it!!!!!! I do have a question though in your listings of Lorann flavors you have Menthol Eucalyptus listed as OIL Based Flavors - Not Recommended and in your recipes you have Thin Mint you are suppost to use 25% Menthol Liquid (Home Made) what is that recipe????

 

[Scottes]

QBall, some people use oil-based flavoring anyway. Many folks do not have atomizer problems when using oil-based flavorings.

Personally, I think it's an old wive's tale - but based in a little logic. If you vaped oil you'd clog your atomizer, sure.

But a flavoring contains some oil, and a recipe contains some of that flavoring. So juice using an oil-based flavoring doesn't really contain much oil at all. By the end of the day, what little oil might remain in the atomizer could simply be blown out. A quick bath in pure grain alcohol would surely rinse every trace of oil out of the atomizer.

I will use any oil-based flavoring as long as it's a good flavor. And that's the same criteria I use for any flavoring, so the oil-base is not even a consideration to me.

But it might be a concern to some, so the concern/warning is listed anyway, in the interests of full disclosure and full information.

 

[augie]

ok if I have 60mg nic no flavor PG, and I want to cut it down to 36mg, with 20% flavoring...it looks like this to make 30ml..

Number of drops 40 = 1ml
Section 2_____Ingredient____________ml__________drops__________Percentage
_____________PG or VG with Nic_____18.0__________720__________60.0%
_____________PG or VG (no Nic)______6.0__________240__________20.0%
_____________Water________________0.0__________0____________0.0%
_____________Flavorings_____________6.0_________240__________20.0%

but as i'll be adding glycerin to it as well according to the above and glycerin is fairly thick, what percentage of vodka would I need to use, so that it's not too thick, and clogs or too thin that it floods my atty? This will be CVS glycerin off the shelf which states mix 2 or 3 times water to glycerin on the bottle. Oh and are these good percentages to keep with DIY (60/40)?

 

[Scottes]

Replace some of the "PG or VG (no Nic)" with the glycerin. I personally use 15% VG and 1 or 2 drops of vodka per milliliter of VG used. Others use 20% vodka 80% VG, or about 4 drops of vodka per ml of VG.

So to make a 30ml batch, my version of your recipe would be:
Nic-juice: 18ml
VG: 4.5ml (15% of 30ml)
PG no Nic: 1.5ml (The original 6ml of PG minus the 4.5ml of VG)
Flavoring: 6ml

For 4.5ml of VG I would add 5-10 drops of vodka.
Other might use up to 20 drops - you certainly can do so, if the e-juice seems a little thick.

 

[augie]

ok so like this?
Number of drops 40 = 1ml
Section 2_____Ingredient____________ml__________drops_________Percentage
_____________PG or VG with Nic_____18.0__________720__________60.0%
_____________Glycerin______________4.5__________240__________20.0%
_____________Vodka________________1.5__________0_____________0.0%
_____________Flavorings_____________6.0_________240__________20.0%

or can I not cut straight glycerin with PG and call it good (having to put VG in as well)?

 

[Scottes]

The line labeled "PG or VG (no Nic)" is a mixture of PG and or VG. Glycerin is VG - same thing. So you need to split up your original 6ml to a mix of VG and PG. To use VG at 15% this would require 4.5ml (30 * 0.15). The PG would be the remainder, 1.5ml (6ml - 4.5ml = 1.5ml).

 

[augie]

ok so what I guess I don't understand it says PG or VG (no nic) and glycerin is VG why would it have to be mixed again with PG?

 

[pigspleen]

ok so what I guess I don't understand it says PG or VG (no nic) and glycerin is VG why would it have to be mixed again with PG?

no nic to cut the nic juice down to the concentration you want ie 36mg to 12mg...and you can use either pg or vg to do this....i use vg because nic juice in in pg already and i get better vapour with the vg

 

[augie]

but wouldn't glycerin and flavoring and vodka do that itself?

 

[Scottes]

Your original recipe called for 6ml of PG.

You can substitute VG for PG - and PG for VG - in equal amounts, at any time.

So if your original recipe called for 6ml of PG, you can replace 4.5ml of it with VG.

Since you only have 4.5ml of VG, you need 1.5ml of PG to make it back to 6ml of "PG or VG"

 

[augie]

oh ok let me see if I got this...so mix the VG i'm going to use 4.5 ml and 16 drops of vodka shlosh it around so it mixes well then add in 1.5 ml of PG to that mix. Then add mix the PG with nic, VG/PG without nic, and flavoring shlosh it around, and it should be the right consistancy and nic mg (36) to vape?

 

[Scottes]

Sounds good to me.

 

[augie]

hey what the hell is this bright lightbulb doing over my head?!?

 

[TJPatt72]

Is the main thing to keep out of trouble and danger to make sure the nic base never goes over 36 mg with that being on the high side which I don't plan on doing. So is this the formula that you can use to make sure your not getting too much nic in the mix?
Amount Nic Mg to add=Amount ml want / (Base NicMg/Target NicMg)
5.0ml=10ml / (48mg/24mg)

Are there any other % you want to keep under raps to prevent the mix from becoming possibly danerous like too much vodka becoming a fire danger?

Is vodka the only liquor you can use in your recipe or for cleaning or would Southern Comfort work? If looking at using a different type is there any % of alcohol underage or overage you would want to watch out for?

 

[Scubabatdan]

Is the main thing to keep out of trouble and danger to make sure the nic base never goes over 36 mg with that being on the high side which I don't plan on doing. So is this the formula that you can use to make sure your not getting too much nic in the mix?
Amount Nic Mg to add=Amount ml want / (Base NicMg/Target NicMg)
5.0ml=10ml / (48mg/24mg)

Are there any other % you want to keep under raps to prevent the mix from becoming possibly danerous like too much vodka becoming a fire danger?

Is vodka the only liquor you can use in your recipe or for cleaning or would Southern Comfort work? If looking at using a different type is there any % of alcohol underage or overage you would want to watch out for?

Your Base nic % can be any amount, I have 75mg nic base, BUT the target (what you want to vape) is up to you, personally I do not go above 24mg but I freinds that vape 36mg.

If you want the formula, it is ((The amount to make) / (The nic%base / the target nic%)) = the amount of nic base to use
The amount of PG no nic juice to cut it with to get TO the target nic% is (The amount to make - The amount of nic base to use)
or
((30/(24/40) = 18ml nic base
30 -18 = 12ml PG

I only add Vodka or PGA (Pure Grain Alcohol) if I add VG.
Proof does not matter as I never exceed 20% of the VG amount, ie 20% of 12ml of VG = 2.4ml PGA

You can use other alcohol spirits, the higher the proof the better for cleaning and vaping. No danger unless you are drinking PGA near and open flame

Hope this helps
Dan

 

[tolip]

Dan,

Thx for an excellent tool!

If you are still entertaining the idea of feature additions...
How about a smallest batch possible thingie for experimenting on a budget?

Way off topic,
Do you scuba in the bat's lair?

Tolip
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